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What should happen next with Rob Ford?

He should resign immediately. He's clearly unfit to be mayor.
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The matter should be brought to the courts and before a judge and jury.
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He needs to step aside until he sorts out his personal problems.
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Nothing. He hasn't been charged so why should he resign?
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Nothing. This whole thing has been nothing but a media conspiracy!
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Other - please specify
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:08 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:useing a drug does not make you addicted to it.


Going into withdrawal when you haven't had any in a while does.


agreed, withdrawal is a pretty good sign of addiction.
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Postby Page » Wed Nov 06, 2013 5:28 pm

Franklin Delano Bluth wrote:
Des-Bal wrote:
Crack's really not significantly worse than cocaine and every politician and celebrity on earth swears by that stuff.


Crack's for black people and poors, though.

That's Ford's real crime--he's a powerful white guy taking a poor black man's drug, transgressing racial and class boundaries.

I really think this more than anything has shaped the right-wing racist media's coverage of this.


There is a lot of truth to this. I think if there were instead a video of him snorting powder coke, there'd be a scandal but it wouldn't have the same tone. It'd be more "this guy is a corrupt scumbag" rather than "this guy is a corrupt scumbag and probably also insane and holy fucking shit, crack, really?"
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Postby Greed and Death » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:06 pm

Does anyone else thing the mayor looks like Chris Farley?
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Postby Coccygia » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:07 pm

The Mayor should resign immediately and move to the US, where he should be a great success in politics.
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Postby Southern Babylonia » Wed Nov 06, 2013 6:12 pm

Coccygia wrote:The Mayor should resign immediately and move to the US, where he should be a great success in politics.

He and Ted Cruz together would be unstoppable.
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Postby Scarsaw » Wed Nov 06, 2013 8:49 pm

See, what blows my mind is his reasoning behind it. That he is not necessarily a Crack head, but just an innocent fellow who might have tried it during one of his drunken stupers. Now, ignoring the Crack part, the mayor still has a horrible substance abuse as he's admitted that he commonly gets wasted...almost alcoholically so.

Now, I know a lot of our country has been built by alcoholics, but it's better to read it from a history book after as a DYK rather than in the newspapers.

Although this did make me laugh a bit. Never realized the connection that the warship named after the city he is mayor of has been part of some recent major drug busts.
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Postby Thurask » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:22 pm

greed and death wrote:Does anyone else thing the mayor looks like Chris Farley?

Or Rush Limbaugh.

Both of them had their share of drug problems, too.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:30 pm

Scarsaw wrote:See, what blows my mind is his reasoning behind it. That he is not necessarily a Crack head, but just an innocent fellow who might have tried it during one of his drunken stupers. Now, ignoring the Crack part, the mayor still has a horrible substance abuse as he's admitted that he commonly gets wasted...almost alcoholically so.

Now, I know a lot of our country has been built by alcoholics, but it's better to read it from a history book after as a DYK rather than in the newspapers.

Although this did make me laugh a bit. Never realized the connection that the warship named after the city he is mayor of has been part of some recent major drug busts.


Just because a man likes his booze doesn't make him an alcoholic. I mean hell Churchill was shitfaced during the blitz. The world worked better when work place day drinking was common place.
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Postby Gauthier » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:32 pm

greed and death wrote:Does anyone else thing the mayor looks like Chris Farley?


If Rob Ford dies from crack overdose, the answer would be "Yes".
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Postby Scarsaw » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:47 pm

Blazedtown wrote:Just because a man likes his booze doesn't make him an alcoholic. I mean hell Churchill was shitfaced during the blitz. The world worked better when work place day drinking was common place.


If a man has many drunken stupors (as he said it may have happened during one of them, implying he has them often), cannot control any of his actions (or uses it as an excuse for his actions), and blacks out...I'd say he's abusing alcohol and is an alcoholic, especially when it affects his work and social life like it currently is.

Also, Churchill might have been an alcoholic as well (so was MacDonald and Mulroney), but as I said before, I much rather reading about it in history books than on the news. Taking his word on why he did crack, it is apparent that his drinking is a major player and he should step down sort himself out and get his alcoholism under control.
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Postby Blazedtown » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:48 pm

Scarsaw wrote:
Blazedtown wrote:Just because a man likes his booze doesn't make him an alcoholic. I mean hell Churchill was shitfaced during the blitz. The world worked better when work place day drinking was common place.


If a man has many drunken stupors (as he said it may have happened during one of them, implying he has them often), cannot control any of his actions (or uses it as an excuse for his actions), and blacks out...I'd say he's abusing alcohol and is an alcoholic, especially when it affects his work and social life like it currently is.

Also, Churchill might have been an alcoholic as well (so was MacDonald and Mulroney), but as I said before, I much rather reading about it in history books than on the news. Taking his word on why he did crack, it is apparent that his drinking is a major player and he should step down sort himself out and get his alcoholism under control.


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Postby Thurask » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:49 pm

Blazedtown wrote:
Scarsaw wrote:See, what blows my mind is his reasoning behind it. That he is not necessarily a Crack head, but just an innocent fellow who might have tried it during one of his drunken stupers. Now, ignoring the Crack part, the mayor still has a horrible substance abuse as he's admitted that he commonly gets wasted...almost alcoholically so.

Now, I know a lot of our country has been built by alcoholics, but it's better to read it from a history book after as a DYK rather than in the newspapers.

Although this did make me laugh a bit. Never realized the connection that the warship named after the city he is mayor of has been part of some recent major drug busts.


Just because a man likes his booze doesn't make him an alcoholic. I mean hell Churchill was shitfaced during the blitz. The world worked better when work place day drinking was common place.

Wonder if Operation Unthinkable was ordered while shitfaced?
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Postby Scarsaw » Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:59 pm

Blazedtown wrote:Alcoholics go to meetings, drunks have fun.


...and I bet he's having a lot of fun right now.
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Postby Nation of Quebec » Thu Nov 07, 2013 3:52 pm

Another Rob Ford bombshell. There's another video of Toronto's Mayor. It isn't the infamous crack video, but it does show him visibly drunk, shouting expletives and making threats to some unknown person.

Toronto Mayor Rob Ford has admitted embarrassment over the surfacing of a bizarre video that shows him ranting, swearing profusely and acting erratically, the latest surprising event to involve the chief magistrate during a week in which he also admitted to having smoked crack cocaine.

Both the Toronto Star and the Toronto Sun published videos on their respective websites on Thursday, which appeared to have overlapping portions of an unexplained occasion in which the mayor was recorded.

The context of the video is unknown and the target of Ford's rants is unknown.

At one point during the video, Ford can be heard talking about wanting "to kill" someone.

There are also references to "birds," to his brothers, and also to "liars."

Shortly after 12:30 p.m. ET, Ford stepped out of his office at city hall and addressed the video that first appeared on the Star's website.

“Obviously, I was extremely, extremely inebriated,” Ford said, expressing that it was "embarrassing." The mayor also made reference to having made some "mistakes."

He did not clarify any details of the video published by the Star. Ford did not mention the video the Sun published.

A source who has spoken to the mayor told the CBC’s Jamie Strashin that the video was likely recorded in February or March this year.

Coun. James Pasternak commented on the video about an hour after it was posted.

"It's very disturbing, very upsetting," he said. "It's conduct unbecoming a chief magistrate. The behaviour in the video, the language, is profoundly disappointing, profoundly disturbing."

Deputy Mayor Norm Kelly said he wants to know more about the video, which he said lacks context, before commenting about it.

"I don't know who he's talking about," said Kelly. "I don't know the context. People act differently in private than they do in public. He's obviously agitated. I don't know why."

On Thursday afternoon, Toronto police Chief Bill Blair said that the newly released video was not part of a recent police investigation.

In the case of the new video, Blair said he became aware of it "when it was released in the news today and again I’m not going to make any comment."

The Star says it purchased the video, but the newspaper did not identify where it was obtained from.

The Sun says that it did not purchase the video posted on its website.
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The newly published video came out just two days after Ford admitted to having smoked crack cocaine and four days after he acknowledged making "mistakes," some of which were alcohol-related.

Ford had been under intense scrutiny for months after reports emerged that someone had been shopping a video — not related to the one posted Thursday — that appeared to show the mayor smoking a crack pipe.

The mayor long denied the alleged crack video’s existence, though police recently said they had obtained a video file that was consistent with what the media had reported. Ford has since called for that video to be released.

He is now under increasing pressure from fellow council members to take a leave of absence, though Ford has so far said he intends to carry on at city hall.

At least one councillor was calling for his outright resignation on Thursday:

Coun. John Parker said the video was just the latest in a series of distractions for the mayor.

"It’s just one story after another, but the pattern is well-established," Parker said Thursday.

But he said that the work at city hall continues no matter what is going on with the mayor.
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Coun. John Filion said that Ford needs to step aside and return to work, if and when he is able to deal with his personal issues.

But the councillor said that he believes the mayor will resist efforts to try to pressure him into doing so.

"The more that people line up to try to push him to do that, the more counterproductive it is and the less likely it is to happen," he told CBC News Network in a telephone interview.

"Rob Ford is not somebody who would allow himself to be shoved aside, it just goes against his core."

Ford, a 44-year-old father of two young children, has served as the mayor of Toronto for the past three years. He has constantly made headlines during his tenure both for his work at city hall and his life outside of it.

Everything from his personal driving habits to the amount of time he has devoted to coaching high school football has been covered closely by the media.

Last year, Ford faced a conflict-of-interest challenge that resulted in a judge ordering him removed from office. But that ruling was overturned on appeal and the mayor held onto his job.

Ford also faced a defamation lawsuit that was dismissed in court.

Before he was elected mayor, Ford served as a city councillor for a ward in the Toronto suburb of Etobicoke.


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At this point it stops being funny. Rob Ford seriously needs to step down or resign and get some help. He needs some rehab before he completely self-destructs and does something that harms himself and his family.
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Postby Thurask » Thu Nov 07, 2013 4:29 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:Another Rob Ford bombshell. There's another video of Toronto's Mayor. It isn't the infamous crack video, but it does show him visibly drunk, shouting expletives and making threats to some unknown person.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/r ... -1.2418421

At this point it stops being funny. Rob Ford seriously needs to step down or resign and get some help. He needs some rehab before he completely self-destructs and does something that harms himself and his family.


I doubt that he'd remain Mayor by December.
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Postby Blazedtown » Thu Nov 07, 2013 7:50 pm

Nation of Quebec wrote:Another Rob Ford bombshell. There's another video of Toronto's Mayor. It isn't the infamous crack video, but it does show him visibly drunk, shouting expletives and making threats to some unknown person.


http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/r ... -1.2418421

At this point it stops being funny. Rob Ford seriously needs to step down or resign and get some help. He needs some rehab before he completely self-destructs and does something that harms himself and his family.


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If all else fails, the province could remove him if it gets bad enough.
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If all else fails, the province could remove him if it gets bad enough.

To do that, the Legislative Assembly would have to amend the City of Toronto Act to include removal procedures.

Right now, the only way if he won't go is for a majority of city councillors to miss two meetings in a row, which would dissolve the City Council and cause new elections.
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Postby Greed and Death » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:20 am

Ainin wrote:
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If all else fails, the province could remove him if it gets bad enough.

To do that, the Legislative Assembly would have to amend the City of Toronto Act to include removal procedures.

Right now, the only way if he won't go is for a majority of city councillors to miss two meetings in a row, which would dissolve the City Council and cause new elections.

So they have to put their own seats at risk ?


I was talking to a Toronto local and apparently he is popular there despite this. Some are even predicting he still wins next election.
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greed and death wrote:So they have to put their own seats at risk ?

Yes, just like a vote of no confidence.

I was talking to a Toronto local and apparently he is popular there despite this. Some are even predicting he still wins next election.

Not that much. Right now, the public transport agency chairwoman beats him in polls.
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Postby Gauthier » Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:53 am

Now we just have to wait for Rob Ford to freak out during a live press conference to complete the circle.
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Postby Kryozerkia » Fri Nov 08, 2013 9:28 am

Gauthier wrote:Now we just have to wait for Rob Ford to freak out during a live press conference to complete the circle.

Well, he has his weekly radio show. There's always hope.
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greed and death wrote:How can he be that fat and smoke crack ?


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