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by Ambroscus Koth » Sat Nov 02, 2013 7:48 pm
by The North Polish Union » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:20 pm
Unibot III wrote:The North Polish Union wrote:Have you polled all the RPers, Generalites etc. to find this out? And can I see the data?
I regularly recruit RPers and Generalites and players outside of NationStates Gameplay. I know the general mood and Georgie is wrong, very wrong. It's quite common for players outside of NationStates Gameplay to be more defenderist than me -- which is rare in NationStates Gameplay.
I also do regular opinion polling and experiments to find out how Invaders and Defenders can more effectively frame and market themselves; I can't say too much about those studies because they would be very dangerous to disclose. But I did find that the optimal frames underwrite the popularity of a traditional moral framework ("invading is impermissible") -- successful invader framing is part and parcel of a process to challenge the traditional moral framework. Successful defender framing reinforces the traditional moral framework. This wouldn't be true if the traditional moral framework wasn't popular.
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by The North Polish Union » Sat Nov 02, 2013 8:26 pm
We have this idea in NationStates Gameplay that “raiding”/”defending” is some incredibly divisive issue like choosing between Coca Cola and Pepsi. But outside of the elite, invading is not popular and when I approach just regular players about joining the cause, I usually find eight or nine tenths of them want to help in some way (not all of them actually are able to help out – but a lot of people have good intentions).
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by Erudite Observer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:07 pm
by Mallorea and Riva » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:11 pm
Erudite Observer wrote:Several days ago, the founder of the region, Caraphernelia was restored to existence and promptly removed the raider threat from the region.
by Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:02 pm
by Erudite Observer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:11 pm
Cerian Quilor wrote:No machiavelli quote?
by Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:31 pm
by The North Polish Union » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:00 pm
Hakinda Herseyi Duymak istiyorum wrote:keep your wet opinions to yourself. Byzantium and Ottoman will not come again. Whoever thinks of this wet dream will feel the power of the Republic's secular army.
Minskiev wrote:You are GP's dross.
Petrovsegratsk wrote:NPU, I know your clearly a Polish nationalist, but wtf is up with your obssession with resurrecting the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth?
The yoshin empire wrote:Grouping russians with slavs is like grouping germans with french , the two are so culturally different.
by Cerian Quilor » Mon Nov 04, 2013 9:14 pm
by Erudite Observer » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:37 pm
by German Dragons » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:12 am
by Weed » Tue Nov 05, 2013 12:25 am
by Mad Jack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:10 am
German Dragons: That’s their opinion then. I do wish to state that not all of us are in support of mass murder and genocide. Every ideology has its extremists. Unfortunately, they yell the loudest and attract the most attention.
by Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:14 am
Mad Jack wrote:German Dragons: That’s their opinion then. I do wish to state that not all of us are in support of mass murder and genocide. Every ideology has its extremists. Unfortunately, they yell the loudest and attract the most attention.
Yes if you aren't in support of mass murder and genocide, you aren't a Nazi. It is a central tenant of Nazism to destroy those groups that they feel aren't part of their vision of the perfect society.
by Mad Jack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:17 am
Cerian Quilor wrote:Mad Jack wrote:
Yes if you aren't in support of mass murder and genocide, you aren't a Nazi. It is a central tenant of Nazism to destroy those groups that they feel aren't part of their vision of the perfect society.
Try to keep the Self-righteousness to a manageable level, Cromarty.
by Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:26 am
by Weed » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:27 am
by Cerian Quilor » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:28 am
Weed wrote:Mad Jack wrote:How was that self-righteous?
Maybe like asserting that you get to define what a term means when they use it to define what they believe. If a party or ideological group was forced to keep the same beliefs throughout history and never change the then labeling yourself a Democrat would mean you support segregation.
by Mad Jack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:40 am
Weed wrote:Mad Jack wrote:How was that self-righteous?
Maybe like asserting that you get to define what a term means when they use it to define what they believe. If a party or ideological group was forced to keep the same beliefs throughout history and never change the then labeling yourself a Democrat would mean you support segregation.
by Weed » Tue Nov 05, 2013 1:53 am
Mad Jack wrote:Weed wrote:Maybe like asserting that you get to define what a term means when they use it to define what they believe. If a party or ideological group was forced to keep the same beliefs throughout history and never change the then labeling yourself a Democrat would mean you support segregation.
Nazism is the ideology arising from the works of Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist German Workers' Party. You cannot get away from that fact. If you define yourself as a Nazi, you support and accept those works and actions. Genocide is as much a part of Nazi ideology as antisemitism, as social Darwinism, as racial hierarchy, as Aryan supremacy, as the state and nation being more important than the individual.
Anything else is a divergence, and makes you not a Nazi.
by Mad Jack » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:47 am
Weed wrote:Mad Jack wrote:Nazism is the ideology arising from the works of Adolf Hitler and the National Socialist German Workers' Party. You cannot get away from that fact. If you define yourself as a Nazi, you support and accept those works and actions. Genocide is as much a part of Nazi ideology as antisemitism, as social Darwinism, as racial hierarchy, as Aryan supremacy, as the state and nation being more important than the individual.
Anything else is a divergence, and makes you not a Nazi.
To you, Mad Jack, who is only the God of Definitions in your own mind.
by Weed » Tue Nov 05, 2013 2:50 am
Oh, I've seen that before, what we've got here is a Mad Jack on the run!
by Weed » Tue Nov 05, 2013 3:07 am
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