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Gott mit Uns! Alternate Post-WW1 RP: OOC OPEN

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Background change:

Status Quo of the OP.
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Retcon everything.
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Retcon everything except the dutch invasion.
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Retcon everything except the dutch invasion and German Ultimatum.
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Retcon everything except....... (Please post relevant information)
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Ten years forward,to continue negotiations for the issues of what happened inbetween.
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Glory to Germany!
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Britannia Rule the Waves!
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Total votes : 33

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Gott mit Uns! Alternate Post-WW1 RP: OOC OPEN

Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 18, 2013 3:17 am

First of all I wanted to give credit where appropriate,in this case,here.
The idea isn't mine.
Parts of the OP post aren't either.
They both are of Imperial Canadian Dutchy,whom I asked to reboot the rp.
That being said,a few changes from his version might occur/have occurred.


Got Mitt uns

1914: in This year the war to end all wars began, like a cinder to a powder keg, Europe exploded into violence as the Europeans alliances such as the Entente and Central Powers came into play.
But this time.....the war went differently.
With its own declaration of war, Italy chose to stay loyal to the Central Powers, helping to spread out French troops more, and putting more pressure on the French south.
Also this time Germany choose to do it the hard way discarding most of the Schlieffen-Plan, preventing the British from joining by promising to adhere to the neutrality of the BeNeLux,and instead defending against the French Plan XVII. In the east the war went similar to as it went historically,in the end resulting in an Central Powers victory.At the Negotiation tables in Brest Litovsk,the germans set high demands for themselves and their allies,Initiating the Mitteleuropa-Plan.

On the Romanian Front, as historically, Romania had to surrender,ceding the Dobruja to Bulgaria and the passes over the Carpathian Mountains to Austria-Hungary.
As well as leasing its Oil Wells to Germany for 90 years,effectively tying it both economically and politically to Germany.

With troops released from the Russian Front,more were sent to the Balkan front,greatly supporting Bulgaria,Austria-Hungary and the Ottomans.
After a rapid success in the Balkan front,troops were moved west again.


Back on the western front the war had once again led to a stalemate,though with less attacks, however with men freed up from the east and Balkans, the Germans started making larger incursions against the french forces. Finally after 5 years of stalemate and the Germans enveloping the last french forces around Paris,and capturing it in a bloody Battle,final negotiations started.
Italy would receive all land given to France as part of its support for the Italian Unification, as well as Corsica,Tunisia and Djibouti.
Germany would receive the rest of French overseas Possessions.
And the treaty further also limited the french military,and especially its heavier equipment and vehicles.

Additional bits of History,stuff that happened IC, and Notes:
  • The Netherlands have turned into a dictatorship via coup.
  • In Mexico during the Civil war a Junta took control,and rapidly annexed Guatemala.
  • France has been heavily punished in the war,loosing its colonies,most of its military equipment larger than small arms and being forced to pay reparations,as well as the release of an Independent Duchy of Brittany(as a constitutional monarchy,the head for which would be chosen by its parliament).
  • The Baltic Duchy is being ruled by its German minority,to ensure loyalty to the empire.
  • Ukraine granted the most autonomy of the eastern german states,though placed under occupation.
  • Russian Civil War goes on,still without foreign intervention,though that may change.
  • The New German Protectorates still have to be recognized by most state,which will probably be a precondition for them to continue diplomatic relations with Germany or said protectorates.
  • The puppets are open to rp (except for Ukraine,which already is taken),though I'll expect you to rp as that,a puppet.
  • Mexico currently is embargoed by the US.
  • Most nations of the world,have not recognized the new nations(Exceptions are France and Russia by force,the new nations each other,the WW1 Central powers,the Dutch Rijk,and South Russia).
  • Germany has given the dutch supplies for their annexation of Belgium.
  • In France,a more or less limitless dictator has risen.
  • Any questions,feel free to ask or tg me.


Rules:
  1. Basics.
    1. Godmode not tolerated.Second time you do it,you're out.(Unless agreed upon with the relevant rper,which should be noted).
    2. I'm the OP,bla bla,listen to what I say,I deny/accept apps,manage the thread 'n stuff.
    3. Co-OP's have rights as the OP,and will be able to accept deny apps,though their decision might be revoked by me. bla bla authority
    4. Metagaming is a no-no.
  2. If you are going to be inactive for more than 2 days,please note here/tg me.
  3. Nations which are inactive for more than 2 days,without having a serious RL reason and tging me/posting will be emptied and reopened for apps.
  4. This list might change.
  5. No One-Liners.I don't expect you to write War&Peace,but please,at least write a few lines per post.
  6. Time
    • I don't expect you all to always act on the same time,but it should be roughly synchronized.
    • Movements take time.
    • Please note the date somewhere in your post.
    • Don't make the posts about too much time,so others can keep up.
    • If you want to a Conference/negotiations/whateverhasdirectspeech,please keep the amount of posts short,so you don't slow down the rest of the rp.
      • Tging such stuff,and then posting it as 1-2 posts is a good way for doing so.

IRC

Open for questions,and I will consider fixing issues in the history,if reasonable.

If you have kept reading so far,then here it is the App:
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[b]Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc[/b](Under 900x900 pixels is preferred.)
[b]Country Name [/b]:(Full)
[b]Capital[/b]:
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[b]Claims[/b]
[b]Head of Government[/b]:
[b]National ideologies[/b]:
[b] National culture[/b]:
[b] Accepted Cultures[/b](This means cultures which would be fully accepted/integrated in your nation,and which would not be discrimanted or regarded as foreigners.)
[b]Cultures just asking to be scapegoated[/b]:(Not necessarily needed,might be judged on case by case basis).
[b] Currency[/b]:
[b] Population[/b]:

[b][size=150]Military[/size][/b]

[b]Total military size[/b]:
[b]Army size[/b]
[b]Navy Size[/b]
[b]Airarm[/b]

[size=150][b]Descriptions[/b][/size]

[b]History [/b]:(If it isn't mentioned in the OP,you are free to make it up.)(Keep it in somewhat reasonable limits.Meaning,Ethiopia,for example,will not have the most modern army at the beginning of the rp).

[b]Description of you nations economy[/b]:

[b]Description of the Military[/b]:

[b]Rp Sample[/b]:


Accepted Countries
German Empire: Me
The Jonathanian States wrote: Country Name (Full): 'tschland!! Ok,ok..... Deutsches Reich. Or German Empire,for those who don't speak german.1
Capital: Berlin
Government Type: Semi-Constitutional Federal monarchy
Head of State: Kaiser Wilhelm II
Head of Government: " (And the chancellor,currently Prince Maximilian of Baden).
National ideologies: Monarchism, Expansionism, Imperialism, Extended Pan-germanism (variations of the Großdeutsche Lösung,though under Prussian Domination)
National culture: German (with all its subcultures)
Accepted CulturesDanish, Sorbian, Frisian,Polish, Lithuanian
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Due to victory in WW1,no reason to,as the Victory also (should have) strengthened National Unity.Though the latter two of above could be options,should the situation of the country worsen heavily enough.
Currency: Mark
Population: 65,925,993

Military

Total military size: 15,250,000 (1,525,000 of which are active)
Army size10,675,000
Navy Size 3,050,000
Airarm 1,525,000

Descriptions

History (if your history is not discussed in the introduction you can reasonably make it up: Do I really have to copy what you wrote?

Description of you nations economy: A communist-hating rightist economy,in which strikes are broken with the military,and labor unions have few to no rights.
A few of the largest industries being Arms,vehicles,Coal,Steel,and shipbuilding.Generally one of the major economies of the world,having been able to survive the war without collapsing.

Description of The Military:
A heavily developed Militär,ranking as one of the best of the world*,if not the one,as it proved itself in the recent war.
Has instructors,or even troops,all over east Europe,making it influential in development of training and techniques.
*Except for navy,that may have been the British specialty.

Rp Sample:OP

1Though it should be noted that Reich doesn't translate exactly to empire,but rather to Realm or something similar,and doesn't distinctively mean that it is/would be lead by an monarch.


Netherlands: Zepplien
Zepplien wrote:Country Name : Het rijk der Nederlanden (The Empire of the Netherlands, the Dutch Empire)
Capital: Amsterdam
Government Type: Military dictatorship
Head of State: William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
Claims: All colonial possessions of the Netherlands, along with the nation itself.
Head of Government: Supreme Commander Arabella Van Der Zee
National ideologies: Strong trading, Strong military, Imperialism, Loyalty to the Central Powers, Neo Dutch Empire
National culture: Dutch
Accepted Cultures Dutch
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: French, Belgians
Currency: Guilder
Population: 14,200,000 (Europe only)

Military

Total military size: 230,000 Men, 3,000 Women (More can be drafted if needed)
Army size: 182,000 Active
Navy Size: 48,000 Seamen (2 Seaplane tenders, 1 Dreadnought, 3 Armoured Cruisers, 5 Cruisers, 28 Destroyers, 50 Torpedo Boats, 12 Submarines)
Airarm: 3,000 (12 Airships, 200 Dogfighters)

Descriptions

History : As World War One broke out in Russia the Dutch began supplying the war machine of the Central Powers, oil and rubber from their Indonesian Colonies primary. This wealth was a boon to the Dutch, allowing them to start construction and modernization of the Navy. Not everyone was happy about this, particularly a young woman named Arabella Van Der Zee, daughter to a high ranking Dutch Officer. She had read her father's books as she grew up, and had educated herself in the ways of warfare, and also politics. She could see where she thought her nation was going wrong, and that problem was south of their boarder. Stolen wealth from the Dutch was the only thing that drove the Belgians in her mind, something that needed to be corrected. As blockade blocked food shipments and the wealth of the Dutch, Van Der Zee saw her chance, donning a uniform, cutting her hair short, and making speeches to the people of the Netherlands. She amassed a following as she blamed the food shortages on the Belgians, how she blamed the French and British for their troubles, and called for immediate war with the states that would destroy the Dutch Empire if they had the chance. Her defining moment was leading a group of soldiers up the stairs to parliament and preforming a coup de tat at gunpoint, Dutch democracy lost as she walked out to thunderous cheering with the announcement, in this, the year of 1918, the Dutch would take back what was theirs. Her troops were posed to attack when France finally surrendered, and as such she pledged her and her nation's loyalty to Germany. Shortly after the war she released her best selling autobiography, Mijn strijd (My struggle), and it quickly became required reading for highschool students.

Description of you nations economy: The Dutch Economy is fully industrial, manufacturing products from an empire on which the sun never sets. It is being pressed to build war goods now, but is normally being used to make things like ships, automobiles, and appliances. It also is able to sell rubber and oil to all the powers of Europe, owning the Dutch East Indies. Having not been involved in the war for the most part, it suffered no real damage.

Description of the Military: The Dutch Military is still modernizing, but this is little problem with the full backing of their Empire. The Navy is becoming the main concern of the Dutch, needing one to compete with the British and Japanese, as such every Dutch drydock is building ships at the moment. The airforce is also receiving new airships based on German designs, due to their use as a terror weapon. Its stock of chemical weapons is second only to the Germans.

Rp Sample: Sample

Also, I would be more than happy to make a map for this RP if you would like

My Additional Notes to the App:

Monarch should be changed to the historically inheriting Juliana.


Ottoman Empire: Epraria
Epraria wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc:
Country Name :(Full) دولت عليهٔ عثمانیه/Devlet-i Âliyye-i Osmâniyye/The Ottoman Empire
Capital: Constantinople/Istanbul
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy.
Head of State: Sultan Mehmed VI
Claims: The Ottoman empire during ww1 and Kars. The Ottomans didn't really gain anything spectacular like the other CP members.
Head of Government: Grand Vizier Ahmet Tevfik Pasha
National ideologies: Expansionism, Monarchism and possibly imperialism.
National culture: Turkish.
Accepted Cultures: Arabian and Kurdish.
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:Greeks and possibly Bulgarians.
Currency: Ottoman Lira
Population: 28 million.

Military

Total military size: 2,998,000 (in which 800,000 are active.)
Army size: 2,898,000
Navy Size: 90,000
Airarm: 10,000

Descriptions

History : The Ottomans fought mostly in the Balkans and the Caucasian campaigns with moderate success. Despite that the war was a victory even though the war was really an German victory rather than an Ottoman Victory. It is now eyeing Egypt and Cyprus.

Description of you nations economy: The Ottoman Industry has been known to be somewhat small for an great power and has been time after time been attempted to be modernized with varying success. However with the end of ww1 Russia has been forced to pay the Ottomans money and the Germans and Austrians where able to help their Ottoman allies finish its modernization of the Ottoman Industry. Other than that the Ottoman Industry is also based on its oil rich areas in Kuwait and Iraq which continues to give the Ottomans money.

Description of the Military: The Ottoman Military is a modernizing one with a large supply of experience soldiers and commanders. The Problems the military has are many though with the technology not being the best in the world. Despite that it is still more modernized than its middle eastern rivals except for the British in Egypt. It is currently being supplied by the German empire and hopes that the Germans can help its military become a force to be feared quickly.

Rp Sample: I believe we have meet before but still here we have one example http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=31&t=265643

My Additional Notes to the App:

Currently none.

Korean Empire: Corenea
Corenea wrote:There you go

Country Name : Korean Empire
Capital: Seoul
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Emperor Yi Sunjong
Claims Korea, Japan, Manchuria
Head of Government: Prime Minister Kwan Chung So
National ideologies: Conservatism, Nationalism, Confuscious
National culture: Korean
Accepted Cultures American, European, Chinese
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Communism
Currency: Won
Population: 84 million

Military

Total military size: 840,000 active, 900,000 reserve
Army size 820,000 active; 840,000 reserve
Navy Size 15,000 active; 50,000 reserve
Airarm 5,000 active; 10,000 reserve

Descriptions

History : In the year 1863, Korea realized that they needed reforms to keep up with the changing world. Accepting trades with the Dutch, Americans, and the British; the Korean government, especially the liberal portion, embraced economic modernization and democratic reforms and with the decline of China's influence, Korea became more independent. During the modernization, Korean living standards grew up with the hosting of the first parliamentary election where men at least of 21 years of age can vote. In the first election, the centre-right Liberal Party won the most seat in government and the Prime Minister position along with the Imperial cabinets were created. The Korean military also joined in on the reform as they want to see military modernization with Dutch and British weapons and uniforms replacing most of the antique Korean armory except in the reserve force.

In April 10th, 1885, with the help of the Dutch and the Britons, Korea launched campaigns to take Manchuria from China and in August 19th, 1885, Manchuria was under Korea's rule. In 1894, the Koreans and the Britons launched a naval blockade on Japan and entered the shores. After 2 bloody years of fighting, Japan was integrated into the Korean Empire.

Description of you nations economy: Industrial and agrarian; main exports are steel, woods, rice, and commerce

Description of the Military: Much more modern with a universal male conscription, have a well trained military with the use of British and Dutch weaponry and uniforms.

RP Sample: viewtopic.php?p=17029893#p17029893

Additional Notes to the App:

Considering setting it on hold.


Great Britain: Segmentia
Segmentia wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc
(Image)
Country Name :The British Empire
Capital: London, England
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: George V

Claims The British Isles, all colonies and dominions of the British Empire during the time period, minus the ones that would have been gained during the war, of course.
Head of Government: Prime Minister Robert Lloyd
National ideologies: Order, Imperialism, Naval Wall (Belief in a strong navy being used to defend and maintain the empire)
National culture: British
Accepted Cultures English, Scottish, Irish, and the major cultures from across the Empire, if only to keep the masses happy.
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:None
Currency: The British Pound
Population: 450 million or so, couldn’t find a reliable figure.

Military

Total military size: Active: 1,750,000 Reserve: Roughly 12 to 13 million.
Army size Maintained active force at a rather small 600,000, though highly professional, can call up massive reserves from across the Empire (I’d say roughly 10 million or so?)
Navy Size 1,100,000 active; 2,000,000 Reserve
Airarm 50,000 Active; No Reserve

Descriptions

History : Thinking a bit on this, will edit it in shortly.

Description of you nations economy: The British economy is a powerful one, not having had to be used to fight during the war. It is a trade and industry heavy economy, though with its wide stretching empire, the economy is simply huge, though not without its problems. Observing the war, the economy was shifted a bit to modernize and expand the standing British forces, and to strengthen the Empire as a whole.

Description of the Military: The mainstay of the British military is the navy, the British Empire maintaining the largest naval force in the world which has only expanded during the war on the continent.

The Army is a rather small, but highly professional force, and doctrines have been implemented to ensure that should a war break out and involve them, the Empire would be able to field a large, efficient volunteer and conscript force, with lessons learned during the war from British observers on both sides being taken in.

The Royal Air Force is slightly lacking in its current form, the national focus on the navy, and followed by the army. However a new age of forward thinkers has risen in the ranks and in the Parliament, ensuring that the British military as a whole could undergo some rather large changes, the RAF chief among these.

Rp Sample:

Denmark: Legital


Legital wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc:http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/9/9c/Flag_of_Denmark.svg/370px-Flag_of_Denmark.svg.png
Country Name : Kingdom of Denmark
Capital: Copenhagen
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: King Christian Carl Frederik Albert Alexander Vilhelm
Claims: Denmark, Iceland, Greenland
Head of Government: Prime Minister Carl Theodor Zahle
National ideologies: Monarchism, Liberal Nationalism
National culture: Danish
Accepted Cultures German, Swedish, Norwegian, and Icelandic Culture.
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:Due to Danish neutrality, there are few cultures which are singled out and discriminated against. However, despite the Germanic influences and culture situated within Denmark, there is an underlying uncertainty as to the relation in regards to Germans after the war.
Currency: Danish Krone
Population: 3,006,921

Military

Total military size: 242,000 personnel.
Army size: 204,000 personnel. Active 93,000 currently active. 106,000 forces in reserve.
Navy Size: 116 Vessels of varying size. 29,000 personnel.
Airarm: 96 Aircraft. 9,000 Personnel.

Descriptions

History : Having remained neutral throughout the events of World War I, Denmark ensured it's neutrality through not only diplomatic matters, but by providing a sizable and modern military force to protect her interests, namely the homeland. Rising national fear in regards to the German Empire has caused an air of uncertainty to fall upon the people of Denmark, causing quiet negotiations to be sought out with Great Britain and the Scandinavian states in hopes of assistance if war were to break out between Denmark and the German Empire.

Description of you nations economy: Maintaining her staple as a trade center, Denmarks economy remains strong in the face of the events in mainland Europe. Industries have been geared towards the buildup of war materials in the ever growing fear of invasion from the German Empire.

Description of the Military: Small in the face of the main European powers, the Danish military is nevertheless modern and equipped to fight a war in the defense of her interests and territory. Strategical plans have been reevaluated in the face of the Great War and the events of the past First and Second War of Schleswig in order to better field a modern military. Infantrymen are highly prized and are equipped with the latest in military technology, allowing the navy to simply provide coastal cover and the air arm of both to provide ground support and raiding on both ground and naval targets.

Rp Sample: viewtopic.php?p=15405905#p15405905


Mexico: Irabaq

Irabaq wrote:Country Name : The "Federal Republic" of Mexico
Capital: Mexico City
Government Type: Junta (military dictatorship)
Head of State: Prime Minister Pedro Gonzales
Claims Mexico, Guatemala
Head of Government:Gen. Pablo Juarez
National ideologies: Fascism (of a sort)
National culture: Mexican
Accepted Cultures Latin-American, Spanish, Portuguese
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:Americans
Currency: Peso
Population: 15,960,000

Military

Total military size: 789,000 Total, 389,000 Active, 400,000 reserve.
Army size 739,000
Navy Size 40,000
Airarm 10,000

Descriptions

History : A (sort of) fascist (Junt-ist?) revolution was successful in Mexico in 1918 after years of conflict. The old government's economy was in shambles because they began to spend too much. The nation began to industrialize as soon as things were re-stabilized, and the new Mexican army annexed Central America in an attempt to bolster population (for work force and military reasons). The Mexicans seek to unite all Spanish-speaking lands into a great Latin empire. When their borders are more secure and solidified, they will begin work on the economy. They plan to use the resources of their large territory to their advantage, making much money off of them, as well as using them for themselves.

Description of you nations economy: Not too shabby, although they aren't very rich.

Description of the Military: The Mexican Federal Army (MFA) uses the German Mauser rifle and the Fusil M-1908 "Mondragón" for its standard service rifles.. The MFA is moderately trained, enough for the common soldier to thrive on the battlefield. They go through basic training (general fitness/discipline) basic rifle training, basic melee combat training, and basic survival training. [spoiler=Best picture I could find](Image)

Rp Sample:

viewtopic.php?f=5&t=266980

United States of America: Jade Confederacy
Jade Confederacy wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc

Country Name : United States of America
Capital: Washington D.C.
Government Type: Federal Republic
Head of State: President Charles Evans Hughes (S)
Claims Present day USA, Philippians (protectorate) & Cuba ( puppet)
Head of Government: Speaker Champ Clark (D)
National ideologies: Republicanism, expansionism, jingoism, & socialism
National culture: Yankee & Dixie
Accepted Cultures Most Europeans
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated : African Americans, Mexicans, Germans & Jews (height of anti-Semitism)
Currency: American Dollar
Population: 103,208,000

Military

Total military size: 210,000 (5 million reserve)
Army size 120,000 million (5 million reserves)
Navy Size 80,000
Airarm< 5,000

Descriptions

History :
The USA stayed neutral during WW I but was pro Allies during the conflict. It sent military material and fuel to help France in the war effort, only stopping after the fall of Paris. The USA still keeps a close relationship with the French government as well as the British government in an effort to counterbalance German hegemony over Europe. The French defeat severely damaged US prestige and was generally considered a loss in the US-German cold war that is beginning to take shape.

The current administration led by the Socialist Party, one of the three major parties in the USA along with the Republicans and Democrats. It is credited for lifting America out of the Great Depression along with an increase in standard of living and civil rights. Its current Foreign policy includes a more lenient stance towards the USSR (which it does not recognize) juxtaposed with a cooler relationship with the Fascist governments of Western Europe.

Description of you nations economy:
The second largest in the world after the UK, the US economy is primarily based on manufacturing, retail, and agriculture. It has large reserves of iron, coal and oil, exempting it from having to have a large imperialist colonial network like the other Great Powers.

Description of the Military:
Though not as advanced as the Germans, the USA possess a professional army to match any among the other Great Powers. Its strength lies in its ships. The US Atlantic Fleet is the third largest in the world in terms on tonnage, after the UK’s Grand Armada, and Germany’s High Seas Fleet.
Rp Sample:
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=211187&start=550


Bulgaria: Lycanestria

Lyncanestria wrote:Here we go... again.

Country Name (Full): The Third Bulgarian Empire
Capital: Sofia
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Tsar Ferdinand I of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
Claims: As noted on the map.
Head of Government: Premier Aleksandar Malinov
National ideologies: Militarism, Expansionism, Pan-Slavism, Industrialism; Heavily militarized state desiring a "New Byzantium" which incorporates all the Slavs under the Bulgarian banner with a capital in the Byzantine city of Constantinople.
National culture: Bulgarian
Accepted Cultures: Russian, Greek, Serbian, Romanian, other fellow Slavs
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks
Currency: Bulgarian lev
Population: 5.7 million

Military

Total military size: 120,000 active (up to 1 million can be called up like in WWI)
Army size: 90,000 active
Navy Size: 25,000 active (2 dreadnought, 3 pre-dreadnoughts, 4 cruisers, 3 destroyers)
Air force: 5,000 active; (~1,500 dogfighters, ~500 bombers)


Fun Stuff

History (if your history is not discussed in the introduction you can reasonably make it up: To keep this short and sweet, basically the war in the Balkans was pretty much in a stalemate for the majority of the war. The Austro-Hungarian and Bulgarian allied armies would win some batrles but then the Serb-Romanian-Montenegrin alliance would sometimes prevail. It was not until the Germans defeated the Russians and started moving troops to the balkans, that the enemies of Bulgaria admitted defeat rather than continuing and facing the same destruction russia faced. In return for territorial concessions to Bulgaria, Serbia made peace with the Bulgarian Tsar Ferdinand I, who then proclaimed the Third Bulgarian Empire, to great acclaim at home. Other enemies such as Romania were forced to cede land as part of the negotiations. Now, with the war over, Bulgaria is in a time of rebuilding while still ambitious nonetheless and ready to expand its borders and truly be a "New Byzantium" though blood and iron.

Description of you nations economy: Recently Industrialized state, main exports of military goods and other finished items. The economy is strong enough to support a mass mobilization as was seen in WWI but has left it fragile and is recovering.

Description of Le Militaire: Very well equipped and in no shortage of supply. The Bulgarian Empire has been referred to as "The Prussia of the Balkans" showing how militarized their society is. The army also has in their arsenal a large number of artillery and heavy tanks.

RPSample:
Number 1
Number 2

France: Kryskov
Kryskov wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc (Image)
Country Name : The Kingdom of France
Capital: Paris
Government Type: Constituional Monarchy (de facto single-party state)
Head of State: King Jean III (Jean, Duke of Guise)
Claims France (de jure claims on French Maghreb, Brittany, Corsica, and other French colonies)
Head of Government: Jacques Bainville
National ideologies: Royalism, Integralism, Trade Unionism, Reactionism, Germanophobia
National culture: French
Accepted Cultures Basque
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Germany, Italy
Currency: Franc (also known as Roifrancs)
Population: 35,600,000

Military

Total military size: 120,000
Army size: 100,000
Navy Size 14,000
Airarm 6,000

Descriptions

History : France's defeats in the Great War made the people of France turns against the government. People who became increasingly more Germanophobic during the War joined the Action Francais, a reactionary far-right movement. The party led the country in the Desperate Revolution, overthrowing the Clemenceau-Poincare government and reinstalling an Orleanist king, Jean Duke of Guise. The parliament was reformed in 1918, with Action Francais having a majority and appointing Jacques Bainville as Prime Minister. Despite this, France still faces the disastrous arrangements of the Treaty of Versailles. Many French feel that the treaty was the republicans' fault, and Royalism is on a rise.

Description of you nations economy: Trade unions are implanted to keep demands on wages, hours, and conditions in check. France is a slight protectionist state, using subsidies and tariffs to direct the flow of trade. Recently, the value of a Roifranc has been going up, leaving many to believe that France is undergoing hyperinflation. Unemployment is high, with deficit spending being used to employ people to build roads, houses, and various appliances.

Description of the Military: The French Armed Forces are heavily burdened by the Treaty. The King is the Commander of the Armed Forces, but Marshal Philippe Petain and Fleet Admiral Henri Salaun, along with Commandant De Rose of the Air Army, really control the military. Command is limited, and with restrictions on the manufacture of new equipment, the French Army needs to resupply through some other means.

Rp Sample: http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?p=15965910#p15965910

(General command of the Armed Forces of) South Russia:Seljuq Kyiv
Seljuq Kyiv wrote:
Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc(Image)[
Country Name : General Command of the Armed Forces of South Russia
Capital: Novocherkassk
Government Type: Aiming for a constitutional monarchy, currently under a military government
Head of State: Grand Duke Nikolay Nikolayevich Romanov, rightful Emperor of All the Russias, who art in Genoa.
Claims It claims all the Russias, or whatever is left anyhow. As far as their lands go, they possess the majority of the North Caucasus Soviet Republic (I believe it should correspond to these territories, minus Volgograd and Astrakhan)



Head of Government: Anton Denikin
National ideologies: Anti-Bolshevikism, anti-Communism, constitutional monarchism, Russian nationalism, liberalism
National culture: Russian
Accepted Cultures Slavic, Turkic, Caucasian
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Semitic, Bolsheviks, Communists
Currency: Ruble
Population:

Military

Total military size: 179,000 (rough estimate)
Army size 104,000 infantry, 56,000 cavalry, 600 field guns, 1,500 machine guns, 34 armoured trains
Navy Size 14,000 (1 Cruiser, 5 Destroyers, 4 Submarines and 20 Gunboats)
Air arm 19 aircraft

Descriptions

History : After the Bolshevik coup, Cossack-controlled Novocherkassk became a haven for anti-Bolsheviks, particularly ex-Tsarist officers who made it the headquarters of the Volunteer Army. Under Alekseev and Lavr Kornilov, they managed to sway the Cossacks against the Bolsheviks, whose combined forces went on to capture Rostov. After several losses, it became clear that the White Movement would not hold Rostov against the superior Bolshevik forces, and made a tactical withdrawal southwards in order to gain popular support, in an event known as the Ice March.

Having made their way south, they launched an attack on Krasnodar, though it would not bear fruit to the cause. The Volunteer Army was hopelessly outnumbered, and Kornilov died in a blaze of glory. His successor, Denikin, realised the futility of their efforts, and withdrew north to Novochervassk. Thus did the Russian Civil War begin in earnest.

The Red Terror policy caused the Bolsheviks to lose the support (if they did have any) of the Cossack population, allowing the White Army to win them over. A new Ataman, Pyotr Krasnov, was elected, mustering 40,000 men under the Don Cossacks alone. Now, with the backing of the Cossacks, Denikin launced the Second Kuban Campaign, which brought most of the south under the White Movement. All in all, South Russia seems to be in a fine position to launch an attack on Bolshevik Moscow.

Description of you nations economy: Seeing as it is being governed under a military government, it does not have much of a focus on commerce. However, the wealth of the land is being gradually given back to landowners and the bourgeoisie.

Description of the Military: The bulk of the Armed Forces of South Russia is comprised of ex-Tsarist soldiers and officers, many of them seasoned veterans of previous engagements and the Great War. A large portion too is formed by the Cossacks of the Don river, some of the greatest horsemen in those regions, who were the first to rise up against the Bolsheviks. Most of their weaponry is captured from the Red Army, or from supplies they had prior to rebelling.

Volunteer Army (renamed Caucasian Volunteer Army)
1st Army Corps (Gen. Kutepov)
2nd Army Corps (Gen. Promtov)
5th Cavalry Corps (Gen. Yuzefovitch)
3rd Kuban Cavalry Corps (Gen. Shkuro)

Army of the Don
Northern Group (Starshina Semiletov)
Southern Group (Gen. S. Denisov)
Trans-Don (Zadonskaya) Group (Col. Bykadorov)

Army of the Caucasus
1st Kuban Corps (Gen. Pokrovsky)
2nd Kuban Corps (Gen. Ulaguy, later Gen. Nahumenko)
4th Kuban Corps (Gen. Shatilov, later Gen. Toporkov)

Army of Turkestan
Zakaspiyskaya Composite Inf. Division (Maj.Gen. Lazarev)
Turkestankaya Rifle Division ( Maj.Gen. Litvinov)
Cavalry Division (Maj.Gen. Oraz-Khan Sedar)

RP Sample: 1000 AD RP

Additional Notes to the App:

In case it wasn't clear:
This is part of the Russian Civil War.It claims all of Russia as the rightful government,though does not factually control most if it.
Meaning:
Other Groups in the Civil war are still open.

Ukraine: Savksi Venac
Savski Venac wrote:Country Name : Ukrainian Protectorate
Capital: Kiev
Government Type: Parliamentary republic (protectorate of the German Reich)
Head of State: Mykhailo Hrishevsky
Claims: Ukraine and Crimea
Head of Government: Pavlo Skoropadsky
National ideologies: Ukrainian nationalisim
National culture: Ukrainian
Accepted Cultures: Rusyn, Czech, Pole
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Russian
Currency: Hryvnia
Population: 23,430,407

Military

Total military size: 100.000 (more can be called up)
Army size: 100.000
Navy Size:
Airarm :

Descriptions

History : The Ukrainian Peoples Republic procalimed its independence in January 25. 1918. The UPR has succeded in defending itself from the Bolsheviks in a short war called the "Winter war". The Winter war was fought from January 30. to March 6. Even though this was a rather short conflict, it was a troubleing one for Ukraine because of the lack of weapons and soldiers. The German Empire aided Ukraine in the war by sending soldiers, weapons and ammunition. In return Ukraine needed to give the Central powers food but also had German troops stationed in it, making it a de facto protectorate.

Description of you nations economy: Mostly agrarian but industrialization is getting stronger, but because Ukraine still has need for the agrarian industry (sending large amounts of food to the central powers) the industralization is slowed down. Ukraine has great potential to become a economically sustainable state.

Description of the Military: Most of the soldiers in the army fought in the war against Bolsheviks, they are experienced and wont hesitate to die for their country as they are proud Ukrainians.

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Brazil: Mexican Liberation
Mexican Liberation wrote:Flag/Symbol/Banner/etc
Country Name : The Federative Republic of Brazil
Capital: Rio de Janeiro
Government Type: Federal Presidential Constitutional Republic
Head of State:Epitacio Pessoa
Claims: Brazil
Head of Government: Epitacio Pessoa
National ideologies: Liberalism, Republicanism, Mixed Economy, Pacifism, Autonomy,
National culture: Brazilian
Accepted Cultures Brazilian (Caucasian, Mixed Race, Afro and Asian Brazilian, Indigenous)
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: No specific culture, simply any nation deemed as invasive, oppressive, or supplies arrogant tourists
Currency: Real
Population: 30,500,000

Military

Total military size: 1,210,000 both active and reserve
Army size 275,000 Active, 835,000 reserve
Navy Size50,000 Active, 40,000 reserve
Airarm 5,000 Active, 5,000 reserve

Descriptions

History : Decades of civil and international turmoil followed with constant clashing between politicians and military generals, often resulting in military rebellions whenever the army doesn't have its way, despite the government already being in the pocket of the armed forces, have brought about to represent a somewhat stable nation. After undergoing severe trauma since its formation, the Republic of Brazil seems to be more of that one person in your life who always has a smile on their face, though you could easily tell that by the stress they've undergone over the years, they're dying and going mad on the inside. One can only hope that the person they've voted for and the military has instilled will be an adequate candidate for at least bringing a new golden age in policies, just once. Though this system of politics may not last for long. Opposing parties have over the years brought raids and rebellions on the other just for spite. It may not be long before the people learn to do this on their own and inevitably turn upon the ones who rallied them in the first place. The war was a topic of heat for the country since it had begun, with the populace split on whether to get involved or not. And so they didn't, well, at least until the later years. A few forces sent towards the allied cause, and the factions they supported fell into oblivion. Doubtful they wouldn't have made much a difference anyway, though if they joined earlier, they could've at least detoured the German lines or sunk enemy ships going towards commercial vessels in the Mediterranean. Now with the war at end, the rebuilding begins. Delfim Moreira, the 10th president in the republic's history has announced his resignation for reasons of psychological illness and declining mental health. Following the amends of the constitution, elections were called and the next candidate was chosen. Epitacio Pessoa, a close friend of the former president and soon to be vice-president, has proven his potential, beating his opposition, civil rights advocate Rui Barbosa by just over 110,000 votes. Now he is left with the task of mending the Republic into his will, and guiding the principals of the country into a new age of prosperity and stability. Just so long as the military is on his side, of course.

Description of you nations economy: Booming until the war's end. Now with the turmoil having been dealt with, economic growth has slowed somewhat as the government must now focus on repaying its pre-war loans, particularly a massive amount to the US. Being one of the highest coffee producers in the world has proven to be significantly useful, as the continued cultivation of coffee shrubs follows a seasonal four-year pattern, new industrial fields are being opened as opportunities for economic growth begin to rise so suddenly. Mostly supportive of Agrarians and the Working class, with the military having a decreasing foothold on the government. Economically, the United States seems to be the favored trade partner. Hopefully with the war at end, some reparations would be in order, just a small bit.

Description of the Military: A period of modernization has been instated following the Contestado War, in addition to the relative competiveness to challenge the military presence of European powers at the time of the Great War. Before this, sporadic periods of regional and state military build-ups and modernization had effected only when in need of a high military existence, such as preparations for a rebellion, mobilization for a possible war, or a military revamp altogether. The military of the republic buys or makes its weapons from the American and European market, particularly Britain and the war-stricken remnants of France. With the defeat of these two empires, Germany is now looked to in the arms market for state-of-the art weapons and experimental tactics, with an army larger than any other, they are a far more admirable partner for dealing militarily. The military, since the formation of the republic, has had a reputation for having established a massive influence in the national agenda for politics, though over the recent number of years, no amount of protest and uprising has been able to stop the stubbornness of the government and the growing wariness of citizens to allow for their control over government subsidiaries to diminish almost rapidly. It is suspected that their final grasp on their decreasingly collaborative puppet will go out with one final 'bang', a coup, inevitable but so massive in proportion, the entire nation will be rocked at its core. The days are numbered

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Italy: The imperial canadian dutchy From the First Version
MAP
Here
Now hopefully even finished and correct.
Note that South Russia is not on the map,as it claims all of russia.
Now,that you passed all of this,you seriously deserve it.
The IC
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Democratic Socialists

Postby Lyncanestria » Fri Oct 18, 2013 7:30 am

Yay! I see you reserved my nation from the previous RP. I take it nothing realy changed much for the Third Bulgarian Empire. Hopefully this gets enough attention and more people join! So excited for this.
Pop: 64,854,527 | At arms: 227,895 (314,712 reserve)
GDP: NSD $3.099 trillion (2.869 ƒ) trillion | GDP/c: $44,371
Emperor: Philippe VIII | PM: Luc Mariard
: Vehicular accident kills 3, including Fleury CF striker :: Burgoyard seperatist demonstrations turn violent in Jugny :: After a term out of office, Mariard regains Premiership :: Emperor undertakes official visit to Vannois :: Baudelaire Systems unveil newest phone, the Astro 4 :: Moulins declares Caeseti regime "illegitimate" :

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The Jonathanian States
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Fri Oct 18, 2013 9:16 am

Lyncanestria wrote:Yay! I see you reserved my nation from the previous RP. I take it nothing realy changed much for the Third Bulgarian Empire. Hopefully this gets enough attention and more people join! So excited for this.

Yeah,I also reserved ICD's Italy.
I also would've reserved Kleomentias Serbia,though it probably isn't going to exist (at the beginning,at least).

I suppose you probably can only repost/quote your app from the old thread,so I can formally let you in.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:37 pm

Totally not a bump.Though this might be.
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The imperial canadian dutchy
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Postby The imperial canadian dutchy » Mon Oct 21, 2013 1:53 pm

Country Name :Kingdom of Italy/Regno D'Italia(Full)
Capital:Roma
Government Type:Nationalist Totalitarian Irredentist Monarchy
Head of State:Re Vittorio Emmanuel III
ClaimsItaly on the map
Head of Government:Benito Amilcare Andrea Mussolini and Gabriale D'Annunzio
National ideologies:Fascism, Monarchism,Irredentism,Germophilia
National culture:Italian
Accepted CulturesGerman, Maghrebs, Amhara, Oromo, Greeks, Copts
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:(Not necessarily needed,might be judged on case by case basis). Tauregs, Somalis, Croats slovenes, Albanians, turks,
Currency:Italian lira
Population:40,000,000

Military

Total military size:200,000
Army size100,000
Navy Size50,000
Airarm50,000

Descriptions

History :(If it isn't mentioned in the OP,you are free to make it up.)Not needed

Description of you nations economy: The Economy of Italy has vastly improved form after the war, due to the spoils,reparations, and plundered resources. However also Il duce has also vastly invested in the industry and commercial centers of italy especially in the border region of Aosta where thousands of Italians had flocked due to new ways to make money. Using the coal from the alps the Empire has been able to build plenty of factories in the poor south and the education and industry there has improved as of result.

Description of the Military:The Italian military to say the most is subpar. It suffers from horrible leadership and poor supplies, but since the wars end it has been improving under the militaristic regime along with Vittorio Emanuele III the soldier king as tanks taken from the french are reversed engineered and station in the flatland of Verona and Treviso. recently Il duce has started a period of intense training and modernization of the Italian Military while keeping the Arditi as the source for most commanders.

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Will finish
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Lyncanestria
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Posts: 843
Founded: Jun 05, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Lyncanestria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 12:37 pm

Here we go... again.

Country Name (Full): The Third Bulgarian Empire
Capital: Sofia
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Tsar Ferdinand I of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
Claims: All highlighted in Red plus Komotini and Edirne
Head of Government: Premier Aleksandar Malinov
National ideologies: Militarism, Expansionism, Pan-Slavism, Industrialism; Heavily militarized state desiring a "New Byzantium" which incorporates all the Slavs under the Bulgarian banner with a capital in the Byzantine city of Constantinople.
National culture: Bulgarian
Accepted Cultures: Russian, Greek, Serbian, Romanian, other fellow Slavs
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks
Currency: Bulgarian lev
Population: 5.7 million

Military

Total military size: 120,000 active (up to 1 million can be called up like in WWI)
Army size: 90,000 active
Navy Size: 25,000 active (2 dreadnought, 3 pre-dreadnoughts, 4 cruisers, 3 destroyers)
Air force: 5,000 active; (~1,500 dogfighters, ~500 bombers)


Fun Stuff

History (if your history is not discussed in the introduction you can reasonably make it up: To keep this short and sweet, basically the war in the Balkans was pretty much in a stalemate for the majority of the war. The Austro-Hungarian and Bulgarian allied armies would win some batrles but then the Greco-Serb-Romanian-Montenegrin alliance would sometimes prevail. It was not until the Germans defeated the Russians and had reached Paris that the enemies of Bulgaria admitted defeat rather than continuing and facing the same destruction France did face. In return for territorial concessions to Bulgaria, Serbia made peace with the Bulgarian Tsar Ferdinand I, who then proclaimed the Third Bulgarian Empire, to great acclaim at home. Other enemies such as Romania and Greece were forced to pay reparations as part of the negotiations. Now, with the war over, Bulgaria is in a time of rebuilding while still ambitious nonetheless and ready to expand its borders and truly be a "New Byzantium" though blood and iron.

Description of you nations economy: Recently Industrialized state, main exports of military goods and other finished items. The economy is strong enough to support a mass mobilization as was seen in WWI but has left it fragile and is recovering.

Description of Le Militaire: Very well equipped and in no shortage of supply. The Bulgarian Empire has been referred to as "The Prussia of the Balkans" showing how militarized their society is. The army also has in their arsenal a large number of artillery and heavy tanks.

RPSample:
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Pop: 64,854,527 | At arms: 227,895 (314,712 reserve)
GDP: NSD $3.099 trillion (2.869 ƒ) trillion | GDP/c: $44,371
Emperor: Philippe VIII | PM: Luc Mariard
: Vehicular accident kills 3, including Fleury CF striker :: Burgoyard seperatist demonstrations turn violent in Jugny :: After a term out of office, Mariard regains Premiership :: Emperor undertakes official visit to Vannois :: Baudelaire Systems unveil newest phone, the Astro 4 :: Moulins declares Caeseti regime "illegitimate" :

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The Jonathanian States
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Posts: 13692
Founded: Nov 29, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby The Jonathanian States » Tue Oct 22, 2013 1:14 pm

Lyncanestria wrote:Here we go... again.

Country Name (Full): The Third Bulgarian Empire
Capital: Sofia
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Head of State: Tsar Ferdinand I of Saxe-Coburg and Gotha
Claims: All highlighted in Red plus Komotini and Edirne
Head of Government: Premier Aleksandar Malinov
National ideologies: Militarism, Expansionism, Pan-Slavism, Industrialism; Heavily militarized state desiring a "New Byzantium" which incorporates all the Slavs under the Bulgarian banner with a capital in the Byzantine city of Constantinople.
National culture: Bulgarian
Accepted Cultures: Russian, Greek, Serbian, Romanian, other fellow Slavs
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks
Currency: Bulgarian lev
Population: 5.7 million

Military

Total military size: 120,000 active (up to 1 million can be called up like in WWI)
Army size: 90,000 active
Navy Size: 25,000 active (2 dreadnought, 3 pre-dreadnoughts, 4 cruisers, 3 destroyers)
Air force: 5,000 active; (~1,500 dogfighters, ~500 bombers)


Fun Stuff

History (if your history is not discussed in the introduction you can reasonably make it up: To keep this short and sweet, basically the war in the Balkans was pretty much in a stalemate for the majority of the war. The Austro-Hungarian and Bulgarian allied armies would win some batrles but then the Greco-Serb-Romanian-Montenegrin alliance would sometimes prevail. It was not until the Germans defeated the Russians and had reached Paris that the enemies of Bulgaria admitted defeat rather than continuing and facing the same destruction France did face. In return for territorial concessions to Bulgaria, Serbia made peace with the Bulgarian Tsar Ferdinand I, who then proclaimed the Third Bulgarian Empire, to great acclaim at home. Other enemies such as Romania and Greece were forced to pay reparations as part of the negotiations. Now, with the war over, Bulgaria is in a time of rebuilding while still ambitious nonetheless and ready to expand its borders and truly be a "New Byzantium" though blood and iron.

Description of you nations economy: Recently Industrialized state, main exports of military goods and other finished items. The economy is strong enough to support a mass mobilization as was seen in WWI but has left it fragile and is recovering.

Description of Le Militaire: Very well equipped and in no shortage of supply. The Bulgarian Empire has been referred to as "The Prussia of the Balkans" showing how militarized their society is. The army also has in their arsenal a large number of artillery and heavy tanks.

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Due to Britain not having joined,Greece too didn't join on the Allied side.So land couldn't have been taken from it.
The ottomans obviously are still part of the Central Powers,so neither could thrace be taken.
Though Instead both more into Romania and into Serbia would be an option.
The current version I have on the map,is This,though it could be changed to some extent,into Romania and Serbia.[I took more or less these borders,as the Romanian part was planned in WW1 by the CP's,and I assumed for Serbia to be split between A-H and Bulgaria,latter taking the south-east and former the north-west.

Once those have been cleared,it will be accepted.

EDIT:
Fix'd link.

EDIT2:
TO noticed,seems that the Ottoman areas you claimed already were bulgarian at the beginning of WW1,and I simply just took them as still ottoman.
So rather refer to the map than my tired comments.
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Zepplien
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Posts: 6750
Founded: Oct 10, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Zepplien » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:14 pm

Country Name : Het rijk der Nederlanden (The Empire of the Netherlands, the Dutch Empire)
Capital: Amsterdam
Government Type: Military dictatorship
Head of State: William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
Claims: All colonial possessions of the Netherlands and Belgium, along with the nations themselves.
Head of Government: Supreme Commander Arabella Van Der Zee
National ideologies: Strong trading, Strong military, Imperialism, Loyalty to the Central Powers, Neo Dutch Empire
National culture: Dutch
Accepted Cultures Dutch
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: French, Belgians
Currency: Guilder
Population: 14,200,000 (Europe only)

Military

Total military size: 230,000 Men, 3,000 Women (More can be drafted if needed)
Army size: 182,000 Active
Navy Size: 48,000 Seamen (2 Seaplane tenders, 1 Dreadnought, 3 Armoured Cruisers, 5 Cruisers, 28 Destroyers, 50 Torpedo Boats, 12 Submarines)
Airarm: 3,000 (12 Airships, 200 Dogfighters)

Descriptions

History : As World War One broke out in Russia the Dutch began supplying the war machine of the Central Powers, oil and rubber from their Indonesian Colonies primary. This wealth was a boon to the Dutch, allowing them to start construction and modernization of the Navy. Not everyone was happy about this, particularly a young woman named Arabella Van Der Zee, daughter to a high ranking Dutch Officer. She had read her father's books as she grew up, and had educated herself in the ways of warfare, and also politics. She could see where she thought her nation was going wrong, and that problem was south of their boarder. Stolen wealth from the Dutch was the only thing that drove the Belgians in her mind, something that needed to be corrected. As blockade blocked food shipments and the wealth of the Dutch, Van Der Zee saw her chance, donning a uniform, cutting her hair short, and making speeches to the people of the Netherlands. She amassed a following as she blamed the food shortages on the Belgians, how she blamed the French and British for their troubles, and called for immediate war with the states that would destroy the Dutch Empire if they had the chance. Her defining moment was leading a group of soldiers up the stairs to parliament and preforming a coup de tat at gunpoint, Dutch democracy lost as she walked out to thunderous cheering with the announcement, in this, the year of 1918, the Dutch would take back what was theirs. To that end she ordered all the loyal soldiers she commanded to attack Belgium, the offensive going amazing with Brussels captured in less than three weeks, the Belgian army having being placed on their forces in case of German attack, not Dutch. Popular support was a non issue for Van Der Zee, even as she told of her true gender, due to the fact she had doubled the size of their Empire in a matter of weeks with very few deaths. Her troops were posed to attack when France finally surrendered, and as such she pledged her and her nation's loyalty to Germany. Shortly after the war she released her best selling autobiography, Mijn strijd (My struggle), and it quickly became required reading for highschool students.

Description of you nations economy: The Dutch Economy is fully industrial, manufacturing products from an empire on which the sun never sets. It is being pressed to build war goods now, but is normally being used to make things like ships, automobiles, and appliances. It also is able to sell rubber and oil to all the powers of Europe, owning the Dutch East Indies. Having not been involved in the war for the most part, it suffered no real damage.

Description of the Military: The Dutch Military is still modernizing, but this is little problem with the full backing of their Empire. The Navy is becoming the main concern of the Dutch, needing one to compete with the British and Japanese, as such every Dutch drydock is building ships at the moment. The airforce is also receiving new airships based on German designs, due to their use as a terror weapon. Its stock of chemical weapons is second only to the Germans.

Rp Sample: Sample

Also, I would be more than happy to make a map for this RP if you would like
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Sovjetia
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Founded: Feb 23, 2012
Ex-Nation

Postby Sovjetia » Tue Oct 22, 2013 3:35 pm

May I reserve Russia?
any questions or comments just tg me!

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Lyncanestria
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Posts: 843
Founded: Jun 05, 2012
Democratic Socialists

Postby Lyncanestria » Tue Oct 22, 2013 9:40 pm

Regarding your map territiries, and possible the history concerning Romania, would it be possible for Romania to be redivided into the Principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, with the former either being in personal union under the Bulgaran Empire or with a majority of its southern lands annexed into out Empire? And regarding Serbia's fate, I'd say that Macedonia would be fine for the Bulgarian Empire, along with some Eadtern strips of territory integrated (land around Nis, I think). Apart from thst Bulgaria looks good. Are you planning on leaving unpainted the other colonies of the British Empire, like India and its Crown Dependancies? Also, is the USA supposed to be lacking southern Texan territory?
Pop: 64,854,527 | At arms: 227,895 (314,712 reserve)
GDP: NSD $3.099 trillion (2.869 ƒ) trillion | GDP/c: $44,371
Emperor: Philippe VIII | PM: Luc Mariard
: Vehicular accident kills 3, including Fleury CF striker :: Burgoyard seperatist demonstrations turn violent in Jugny :: After a term out of office, Mariard regains Premiership :: Emperor undertakes official visit to Vannois :: Baudelaire Systems unveil newest phone, the Astro 4 :: Moulins declares Caeseti regime "illegitimate" :

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Savski Venac
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Founded: Dec 16, 2010
Ex-Nation

Postby Savski Venac » Wed Oct 23, 2013 1:07 am

Country Name : Kingdom of Serbia
Capital: Belgrade
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy
Head of State: King Petar I
Claims: Pre WWI Serbia (or whats left of it) and Montenegro
Head of Government: Nikola Pašić
National ideologies: Svetosavic nationalisim (serbian nationalisim), loyalty to the entente, Greater Serbia
National culture: Serbian
Accepted Cultures: /
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks, Bulgarians
Currency: Serbian dinar
Population:4.500.000

Military

Total military size:250.000 (active army, more can be added when a mobilisation is in order)
Army size:220.900
Navy Size:2000 (mostly river boats)
Airarm:100 (only dogflighting planes)

Descriptions

History : When WWI started Serbia has won two major battles against Austria-Hungary, Cer and Kolubara. From that time Serbia has succesfully kept the "Habsbourg" threat out of its land untill Bulgaria joined the war . Serbia struggled to fight on two fronts. Alongside Montenegro, Serbia tried to make a counter offensive along the coastline of Austria-Hungary to ease off the easter frontline. Serbia made peace with Bulgaria in 1917. and lost Macedonia and its eastern parts in return for peace. Serbia continued to struggle untill 1918. when Austria-Hungary and Serbia signed a treaty to which Serbia will be a protectorate of Austria-Hungary

Description of you nations economy:
Serbian economy has seen its better days before the war, the war itself has shattered any tries of industrialization of Serbia. Still though Serbia can keep its millitary because its rather cheap.

Description of the Military: Serbia has mostly ground troops which are all WWI veterans. Ill equipped but can manouver quickly, and have very talented officers that can sometimes make miracles on the bettlefield.

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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Oct 23, 2013 4:13 am

Sovjetia wrote:May I reserve Russia?

Yes.
Though I'd reopen it around something like Saturday if you still didn't do an app.
I should also note that russia has been serverly beaten in this war.

Savski Venac wrote:Country Name : Kingdom of Serbia
Capital: Belgrade
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy
Head of State: King Petar I
Claims: Pre WWI Serbia (or whats left of it) and Montenegro
Head of Government: Nikola Pašić
National ideologies: Svetosavic nationalisim (serbian nationalisim), loyalty to the entente, Greater Serbia
National culture: Serbian
Accepted Cultures: /
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks, Bulgarians
Currency: Serbian dinar
Population:4.500.000

Military

Total military size:250.000 (active army, more can be added when a mobilisation is in order)
Army size:220.900
Navy Size:2000 (mostly river boats)
Airarm:100 (only dogflighting planes)

Descriptions

History : When WWI started Serbia has won two major battles against Austria-Hungary, Cer and Kolubara. From that time Serbia has succesfully kept the "Habsbourg" threat out of its land untill Bulgaria joined the war . Serbia struggled to fight on two fronts. Alongside Montenegro, Serbia tried to make a counter offensive along the coastline of Austria-Hungary to ease off the easter frontline. Serbia made peace with Bulgaria in 1917. and lost Macedonia and its eastern parts in return for peace. Serbia continued to struggle untill 1918. when Austria-Hungary and Serbia signed a treaty to which Serbia will be a protectorate of Austria-Hungary

Description of you nations economy:
Serbian economy has seen its better days before the war, the war itself has shattered any tries of industrialization of Serbia. Still though Serbia can keep its millitary because its rather cheap.

Description of the Military: Serbia has mostly ground troops which are all WWI veterans. Ill equipped but can manouver quickly, and have very talented officers that can sometimes make miracles on the bettlefield.

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I still am in doubt if serbia would continue at all.
And if it would,it would be a protectorate (as you mentioned).
So my main issue with your app is that the kingdom can claim to be serbian-nationalist.
Serbian nationalism caused the war,by causing the unrest in the Austro-Hungarian parts of serbia.Continuation of that nationalism would be impossible for a puppet of said Empire,as it would serve as a threat to it.
To that realisation the Empire also Historically came,one of its pre-war demands of Serbia being for serbia to stop nationalism/nationalist organisations.
Lyncanestria wrote:Regarding your map territiries, and possible the history concerning Romania, would it be possible for Romania to be redivided into the Principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, with the former either being in personal union under the Bulgaran Empire or with a majority of its southern lands annexed into out Empire? And regarding Serbia's fate, I'd say that Macedonia would be fine for the Bulgarian Empire, along with some Eadtern strips of territory integrated (land around Nis, I think). Apart from thst Bulgaria looks good. Are you planning on leaving unpainted the other colonies of the British Empire, like India and its Crown Dependancies? Also, is the USA supposed to be lacking southern Texan territory?

In regard to Romania,I tried to follow the historical plan,being the Bucharest Treaty.
It entailed following points:
Wiki wrote:
Romania had to return Southern Dobruja (the Cadrilater) and to cede the southern part of Northern Dobruja (see the maps) to Bulgaria, while the rest of the province remained under the joint control of the Central Powers.
Romania had to give Austria-Hungary control of the passes of the Carpathian Mountains (see the maps).
Romania had to lease its oil wells to Germany for 90 years.
The Central Powers recognized the Union of Bessarabia with Romania

And that later Bulgaria got the rest of Dobruja after agreeing to cede the left bank of the Maritsa river.
About Serbia,I'll check that later when I have more time.
To the topic of the US and Britain,no it is not supposed to.The map is still a WIP.
Zepplien wrote:Country Name : Het rijk der Nederlanden (The Empire of the Netherlands, the Dutch Empire)
Capital: Amsterdam
Government Type: Military dictatorship
Head of State: William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
Claims: All colonial possessions of the Netherlands and Belgium, along with the nations themselves.
Head of Government: Supreme Commander Arabella Van Der Zee
National ideologies: Strong trading, Strong military, Imperialism, Loyalty to the Central Powers, Neo Dutch Empire
National culture: Dutch
Accepted Cultures Dutch
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: French, Belgians
Currency: Guilder
Population: 14,200,000 (Europe only)

Military

Total military size: 230,000 Men, 3,000 Women (More can be drafted if needed)
Army size: 182,000 Active
Navy Size: 48,000 Seamen (2 Seaplane tenders, 1 Dreadnought, 3 Armoured Cruisers, 5 Cruisers, 28 Destroyers, 50 Torpedo Boats, 12 Submarines)
Airarm: 3,000 (12 Airships, 200 Dogfighters)

Descriptions

History : As World War One broke out in Russia the Dutch began supplying the war machine of the Central Powers, oil and rubber from their Indonesian Colonies primary. This wealth was a boon to the Dutch, allowing them to start construction and modernization of the Navy. Not everyone was happy about this, particularly a young woman named Arabella Van Der Zee, daughter to a high ranking Dutch Officer. She had read her father's books as she grew up, and had educated herself in the ways of warfare, and also politics. She could see where she thought her nation was going wrong, and that problem was south of their boarder. Stolen wealth from the Dutch was the only thing that drove the Belgians in her mind, something that needed to be corrected. As blockade blocked food shipments and the wealth of the Dutch, Van Der Zee saw her chance, donning a uniform, cutting her hair short, and making speeches to the people of the Netherlands. She amassed a following as she blamed the food shortages on the Belgians, how she blamed the French and British for their troubles, and called for immediate war with the states that would destroy the Dutch Empire if they had the chance. Her defining moment was leading a group of soldiers up the stairs to parliament and preforming a coup de tat at gunpoint, Dutch democracy lost as she walked out to thunderous cheering with the announcement, in this, the year of 1918, the Dutch would take back what was theirs. To that end she ordered all the loyal soldiers she commanded to attack Belgium, the offensive going amazing with Brussels captured in less than three weeks, the Belgian army having being placed on their forces in case of German attack, not Dutch. Popular support was a non issue for Van Der Zee, even as she told of her true gender, due to the fact she had doubled the size of their Empire in a matter of weeks with very few deaths. Her troops were posed to attack when France finally surrendered, and as such she pledged her and her nation's loyalty to Germany. Shortly after the war she released her best selling autobiography, Mijn strijd (My struggle), and it quickly became required reading for highschool students.

Description of you nations economy: The Dutch Economy is fully industrial, manufacturing products from an empire on which the sun never sets. It is being pressed to build war goods now, but is normally being used to make things like ships, automobiles, and appliances. It also is able to sell rubber and oil to all the powers of Europe, owning the Dutch East Indies. Having not been involved in the war for the most part, it suffered no real damage.

Description of the Military: The Dutch Military is still modernizing, but this is little problem with the full backing of their Empire. The Navy is becoming the main concern of the Dutch, needing one to compete with the British and Japanese, as such every Dutch drydock is building ships at the moment. The airforce is also receiving new airships based on German designs, due to their use as a terror weapon. Its stock of chemical weapons is second only to the Germans.

Rp Sample: Sample

Also, I would be more than happy to make a map for this RP if you would like

First of all,thanks for the offer,I have a map in development,though help in filling it would be appreciated.
The current map is Here.
EDIT: Though it should be noted that even the things that are on the map might be changed,for example I just noticed Malta being Italian here.

Though I am interested in how you got a german Duke onto your throne.
I also am thinking about how you intend to hold the french/walloon parts of Belgium.
And finally,of what exactly that pledge of loyalty to germany would entail.

But most of all,probably how again Britain would've kept out of the war.
I took the germans leaving the belgians neutral as the reason for the british to follow their policy of observing the continent.
Though attacking Belgium,while talking about Britain as enemy and germany as ally somehow,to me at least,seem to be pulling in Britain again.

And as second to that,about your quite fast modernization,
According to everything I find,the Dutch army,airforce and navy were all in a substandard state at the time of WW1.
Which even if Belgium wasn't ready,probably would have to use a significant amount of its forces to overpower them.
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Postby Zepplien » Wed Oct 23, 2013 8:15 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Zepplien wrote:Country Name : Het rijk der Nederlanden (The Empire of the Netherlands, the Dutch Empire)
Capital: Amsterdam
Government Type: Military dictatorship
Head of State: William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
Claims: All colonial possessions of the Netherlands and Belgium, along with the nations themselves.
Head of Government: Supreme Commander Arabella Van Der Zee
National ideologies: Strong trading, Strong military, Imperialism, Loyalty to the Central Powers, Neo Dutch Empire
National culture: Dutch
Accepted Cultures Dutch
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: French, Belgians
Currency: Guilder
Population: 14,200,000 (Europe only)

Military

Total military size: 230,000 Men, 3,000 Women (More can be drafted if needed)
Army size: 182,000 Active
Navy Size: 48,000 Seamen (2 Seaplane tenders, 1 Dreadnought, 3 Armoured Cruisers, 5 Cruisers, 28 Destroyers, 50 Torpedo Boats, 12 Submarines)
Airarm: 3,000 (12 Airships, 200 Dogfighters)

Descriptions

History : As World War One broke out in Russia the Dutch began supplying the war machine of the Central Powers, oil and rubber from their Indonesian Colonies primary. This wealth was a boon to the Dutch, allowing them to start construction and modernization of the Navy. Not everyone was happy about this, particularly a young woman named Arabella Van Der Zee, daughter to a high ranking Dutch Officer. She had read her father's books as she grew up, and had educated herself in the ways of warfare, and also politics. She could see where she thought her nation was going wrong, and that problem was south of their boarder. Stolen wealth from the Dutch was the only thing that drove the Belgians in her mind, something that needed to be corrected. As blockade blocked food shipments and the wealth of the Dutch, Van Der Zee saw her chance, donning a uniform, cutting her hair short, and making speeches to the people of the Netherlands. She amassed a following as she blamed the food shortages on the Belgians, how she blamed the French and British for their troubles, and called for immediate war with the states that would destroy the Dutch Empire if they had the chance. Her defining moment was leading a group of soldiers up the stairs to parliament and preforming a coup de tat at gunpoint, Dutch democracy lost as she walked out to thunderous cheering with the announcement, in this, the year of 1918, the Dutch would take back what was theirs. To that end she ordered all the loyal soldiers she commanded to attack Belgium, the offensive going amazing with Brussels captured in less than three weeks, the Belgian army having being placed on their forces in case of German attack, not Dutch. Popular support was a non issue for Van Der Zee, even as she told of her true gender, due to the fact she had doubled the size of their Empire in a matter of weeks with very few deaths. Her troops were posed to attack when France finally surrendered, and as such she pledged her and her nation's loyalty to Germany. Shortly after the war she released her best selling autobiography, Mijn strijd (My struggle), and it quickly became required reading for highschool students.

Description of you nations economy: The Dutch Economy is fully industrial, manufacturing products from an empire on which the sun never sets. It is being pressed to build war goods now, but is normally being used to make things like ships, automobiles, and appliances. It also is able to sell rubber and oil to all the powers of Europe, owning the Dutch East Indies. Having not been involved in the war for the most part, it suffered no real damage.

Description of the Military: The Dutch Military is still modernizing, but this is little problem with the full backing of their Empire. The Navy is becoming the main concern of the Dutch, needing one to compete with the British and Japanese, as such every Dutch drydock is building ships at the moment. The airforce is also receiving new airships based on German designs, due to their use as a terror weapon. Its stock of chemical weapons is second only to the Germans.

Rp Sample: Sample

Also, I would be more than happy to make a map for this RP if you would like

First of all,thanks for the offer,I have a map in development,though help in filling it would be appreciated.
The current map is Here.

Though I am interested in how you got a german Duke onto your throne.
I also am thinking about how you intend to hold the french/walloon parts of Belgium.
And finally,of what exactly that pledge of loyalty to germany would entail.

But most of all,probably how again Britain would've kept out of the war.
I took the germans leaving the belgians neutral as the reason for the british to follow their policy of observing the continent.
Though attacking Belgium,while talking about Britain as enemy and germany as ally somehow,to me at least,seem to be pulling in Britain again.

And as second to that,about your quite fast modernization,
According to everything I find,the Dutch army,airforce and navy were all in a substandard state at the time of WW1.
Which even if Belgium wasn't ready,probably would have to use a significant amount of its forces to overpower them.

Historically that was the only heir to the Dutch throne, forced to abdicate when Germany lost the war. Sense Germany won, I figure he would still be in.

The pledge to Germany would be the full military and echonomic support for its oversees holdings, though not quite modern the Dutch Navy in Asia outnumbered the German navy, and supporting German New Guinea would go a long way to helping the Germans, as would the supply of Dutch Rubber, which was in high demand in the war.

Simple, they wouldn't want to get involved, in the real world Belgium was little more than an excuse to fight Germany, like the USSR and the USA in the cold war, it wasn't so much the place as who they were fighting. The Dutch are historically not friendly with England, but they wouldn't get England involved in a war if they were ok with Germany expanding.

The Netherlands was/is/always has been very industrialized, they could make an ultra efficient war machine, especially with an iron fisted dictator. I do acknowledge that it would take a while to take Belgium normally, but I think it would focus its forces on protecting its boarders from Germany. Thus it would have a hard time mobilizing in the face of a Dutch attack by land and sea, and probably lose a great deal of people to defection and surrender, for Belgium was Dutch less than 100 years ago at that point, and the dictator would be charismatic.

Willing to make changes as you request.

Also, your map has two Philippines
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Wed Oct 23, 2013 9:18 am

Zepplien wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:

First of all,thanks for the offer,I have a map in development,though help in filling it would be appreciated.
The current map is Here.

Though I am interested in how you got a german Duke onto your throne.
I also am thinking about how you intend to hold the french/walloon parts of Belgium.
And finally,of what exactly that pledge of loyalty to germany would entail.

But most of all,probably how again Britain would've kept out of the war.
I took the germans leaving the belgians neutral as the reason for the british to follow their policy of observing the continent.
Though attacking Belgium,while talking about Britain as enemy and germany as ally somehow,to me at least,seem to be pulling in Britain again.

And as second to that,about your quite fast modernization,
According to everything I find,the Dutch army,airforce and navy were all in a substandard state at the time of WW1.
Which even if Belgium wasn't ready,probably would have to use a significant amount of its forces to overpower them.

Historically that was the only heir to the Dutch throne, forced to abdicate when Germany lost the war. Sense Germany won, I figure he would still be in.

The pledge to Germany would be the full military and echonomic support for its oversees holdings, though not quite modern the Dutch Navy in Asia outnumbered the German navy, and supporting German New Guinea would go a long way to helping the Germans, as would the supply of Dutch Rubber, which was in high demand in the war.

Simple, they wouldn't want to get involved, in the real world Belgium was little more than an excuse to fight Germany, like the USSR and the USA in the cold war, it wasn't so much the place as who they were fighting. The Dutch are historically not friendly with England, but they wouldn't get England involved in a war if they were ok with Germany expanding.

The Netherlands was/is/always has been very industrialized, they could make an ultra efficient war machine, especially with an iron fisted dictator. I do acknowledge that it would take a while to take Belgium normally, but I think it would focus its forces on protecting its boarders from Germany. Thus it would have a hard time mobilizing in the face of a Dutch attack by land and sea, and probably lose a great deal of people to defection and surrender, for Belgium was Dutch less than 100 years ago at that point, and the dictator would be charismatic.

Willing to make changes as you request.

Also, your map has two Philippines

And in 1909 Juliana was born,removing him again.

That might be true,
and I do remember that extensive use was made of the dutch trade,until the british blockade (which never happened here).

I suppose that might be true,as the main British fear probably was one nation fully controlling the European coast,as Napoleon almost did.
And obviously that there were other reasons for the war.

In regard to a war on Belgium,while there might be defections,they mostly would be in/by the Northern dutch speaking Flanders,rather than the southern Walloons,which would then just push the front deeper into the south.And while it might've been dutch 100 years ago,it wasn't so by choice,if I recall correctly.
And I fail to see what the dictators charisma/lack thereof is on topic?

I might ask to revoke the War,possibly to the stage of war just having been declared,depending on if there are going to be requests for Belgium at all,and for continuation of above topic about Belgium.

Thanks,my first reaction was laughter,but I know how it was created.
Next map we'll halve the number of Philippines,while fixing the south-east Asian coast.
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Postby Zepplien » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:44 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Zepplien wrote:Historically that was the only heir to the Dutch throne, forced to abdicate when Germany lost the war. Sense Germany won, I figure he would still be in.

The pledge to Germany would be the full military and echonomic support for its oversees holdings, though not quite modern the Dutch Navy in Asia outnumbered the German navy, and supporting German New Guinea would go a long way to helping the Germans, as would the supply of Dutch Rubber, which was in high demand in the war.

Simple, they wouldn't want to get involved, in the real world Belgium was little more than an excuse to fight Germany, like the USSR and the USA in the cold war, it wasn't so much the place as who they were fighting. The Dutch are historically not friendly with England, but they wouldn't get England involved in a war if they were ok with Germany expanding.

The Netherlands was/is/always has been very industrialized, they could make an ultra efficient war machine, especially with an iron fisted dictator. I do acknowledge that it would take a while to take Belgium normally, but I think it would focus its forces on protecting its boarders from Germany. Thus it would have a hard time mobilizing in the face of a Dutch attack by land and sea, and probably lose a great deal of people to defection and surrender, for Belgium was Dutch less than 100 years ago at that point, and the dictator would be charismatic.

Willing to make changes as you request.

Also, your map has two Philippines

And in 1909 Juliana was born,removing him again.

That might be true,
and I do remember that extensive use was made of the dutch trade,until the british blockade (which never happened here).

I suppose that might be true,as the main British fear probably was one nation fully controlling the European coast,as Napoleon almost did.
And obviously that there were other reasons for the war.

In regard to a war on Belgium,while there might be defections,they mostly would be in/by the Northern dutch speaking Flanders,rather than the southern Walloons,which would then just push the front deeper into the south.And while it might've been dutch 100 years ago,it wasn't so by choice,if I recall correctly.
And I fail to see what the dictators charisma/lack thereof is on topic?

I might ask to revoke the War,possibly to the stage of war just having been declared,depending on if there are going to be requests for Belgium at all,and for continuation of above topic about Belgium.

Thanks,my first reaction was laughter,but I know how it was created.
Next map we'll halve the number of Philippines,while fixing the south-east Asian coast.

How about if I take Flanders, and Belgian Oversees colonies, and leave the Franco-Belgian south alone? Like a peace treaty, because clearly the Germanic Dutch would win over the French Belgians.
I meant her endearing herself to the Dutch Belgians

I would be ok with that
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Country Name :The United States of America
Capital: Washington D.C
Government Type: Federal representative presidential republic
Head of State: Woodrow Wilson
Claims Continental United States, Alaska, Hawaii?
Head of Government: Woodrow Wilson
National ideologies:
National culture:
Accepted Cultures
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated:(Not necessarily needed,might be judged on case by case basis).
Currency: U.S Dollar
Population:

Military

Total military size:
Army size
Navy Size
Airarm

Descriptions

History :(If it isn't mentioned in the OP,you are free to make it up.)(Keep it in somewhat reasonable limits.Meaning,Ethiopia,for example,will not have the most modern army at the beginning of the rp).

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Description of the Military:

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Postby Savski Venac » Wed Oct 23, 2013 2:57 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Sovjetia wrote:May I reserve Russia?

Yes.
Though I'd reopen it around something like Saturday if you still didn't do an app.
I should also note that russia has been serverly beaten in this war.

Savski Venac wrote:Country Name : Kingdom of Serbia
Capital: Belgrade
Government Type: Constitutional monarchy
Head of State: King Petar I
Claims: Pre WWI Serbia (or whats left of it) and Montenegro
Head of Government: Nikola Pašić
National ideologies: Svetosavic nationalisim (serbian nationalisim), loyalty to the entente, Greater Serbia
National culture: Serbian
Accepted Cultures: /
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: Turks, Bulgarians
Currency: Serbian dinar
Population:4.500.000

Military

Total military size:250.000 (active army, more can be added when a mobilisation is in order)
Army size:220.900
Navy Size:2000 (mostly river boats)
Airarm:100 (only dogflighting planes)

Descriptions

History : When WWI started Serbia has won two major battles against Austria-Hungary, Cer and Kolubara. From that time Serbia has succesfully kept the "Habsbourg" threat out of its land untill Bulgaria joined the war . Serbia struggled to fight on two fronts. Alongside Montenegro, Serbia tried to make a counter offensive along the coastline of Austria-Hungary to ease off the easter frontline. Serbia made peace with Bulgaria in 1917. and lost Macedonia and its eastern parts in return for peace. Serbia continued to struggle untill 1918. when Austria-Hungary and Serbia signed a treaty to which Serbia will be a protectorate of Austria-Hungary

Description of you nations economy:
Serbian economy has seen its better days before the war, the war itself has shattered any tries of industrialization of Serbia. Still though Serbia can keep its millitary because its rather cheap.

Description of the Military: Serbia has mostly ground troops which are all WWI veterans. Ill equipped but can manouver quickly, and have very talented officers that can sometimes make miracles on the bettlefield.

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I still am in doubt if serbia would continue at all.
And if it would,it would be a protectorate (as you mentioned).
So my main issue with your app is that the kingdom can claim to be serbian-nationalist.
Serbian nationalism caused the war,by causing the unrest in the Austro-Hungarian parts of serbia.Continuation of that nationalism would be impossible for a puppet of said Empire,as it would serve as a threat to it.
To that realisation the Empire also Historically came,one of its pre-war demands of Serbia being for serbia to stop nationalism/nationalist organisations.
Lyncanestria wrote:Regarding your map territiries, and possible the history concerning Romania, would it be possible for Romania to be redivided into the Principalities of Wallachia and Moldavia, with the former either being in personal union under the Bulgaran Empire or with a majority of its southern lands annexed into out Empire? And regarding Serbia's fate, I'd say that Macedonia would be fine for the Bulgarian Empire, along with some Eadtern strips of territory integrated (land around Nis, I think). Apart from thst Bulgaria looks good. Are you planning on leaving unpainted the other colonies of the British Empire, like India and its Crown Dependancies? Also, is the USA supposed to be lacking southern Texan territory?

In regard to Romania,I tried to follow the historical plan,being the Bucharest Treaty.
It entailed following points:
Wiki wrote:
Romania had to return Southern Dobruja (the Cadrilater) and to cede the southern part of Northern Dobruja (see the maps) to Bulgaria, while the rest of the province remained under the joint control of the Central Powers.
Romania had to give Austria-Hungary control of the passes of the Carpathian Mountains (see the maps).
Romania had to lease its oil wells to Germany for 90 years.
The Central Powers recognized the Union of Bessarabia with Romania

And that later Bulgaria got the rest of Dobruja after agreeing to cede the left bank of the Maritsa river.
About Serbia,I'll check that later when I have more time.
To the topic of the US and Britain,no it is not supposed to.The map is still a WIP.
Zepplien wrote:Country Name : Het rijk der Nederlanden (The Empire of the Netherlands, the Dutch Empire)
Capital: Amsterdam
Government Type: Military dictatorship
Head of State: William Ernest, Grand Duke of Saxe-Weimar-Eisenach
Claims: All colonial possessions of the Netherlands and Belgium, along with the nations themselves.
Head of Government: Supreme Commander Arabella Van Der Zee
National ideologies: Strong trading, Strong military, Imperialism, Loyalty to the Central Powers, Neo Dutch Empire
National culture: Dutch
Accepted Cultures Dutch
Cultures just asking to be scapegoated: French, Belgians
Currency: Guilder
Population: 14,200,000 (Europe only)

Military

Total military size: 230,000 Men, 3,000 Women (More can be drafted if needed)
Army size: 182,000 Active
Navy Size: 48,000 Seamen (2 Seaplane tenders, 1 Dreadnought, 3 Armoured Cruisers, 5 Cruisers, 28 Destroyers, 50 Torpedo Boats, 12 Submarines)
Airarm: 3,000 (12 Airships, 200 Dogfighters)

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History : As World War One broke out in Russia the Dutch began supplying the war machine of the Central Powers, oil and rubber from their Indonesian Colonies primary. This wealth was a boon to the Dutch, allowing them to start construction and modernization of the Navy. Not everyone was happy about this, particularly a young woman named Arabella Van Der Zee, daughter to a high ranking Dutch Officer. She had read her father's books as she grew up, and had educated herself in the ways of warfare, and also politics. She could see where she thought her nation was going wrong, and that problem was south of their boarder. Stolen wealth from the Dutch was the only thing that drove the Belgians in her mind, something that needed to be corrected. As blockade blocked food shipments and the wealth of the Dutch, Van Der Zee saw her chance, donning a uniform, cutting her hair short, and making speeches to the people of the Netherlands. She amassed a following as she blamed the food shortages on the Belgians, how she blamed the French and British for their troubles, and called for immediate war with the states that would destroy the Dutch Empire if they had the chance. Her defining moment was leading a group of soldiers up the stairs to parliament and preforming a coup de tat at gunpoint, Dutch democracy lost as she walked out to thunderous cheering with the announcement, in this, the year of 1918, the Dutch would take back what was theirs. To that end she ordered all the loyal soldiers she commanded to attack Belgium, the offensive going amazing with Brussels captured in less than three weeks, the Belgian army having being placed on their forces in case of German attack, not Dutch. Popular support was a non issue for Van Der Zee, even as she told of her true gender, due to the fact she had doubled the size of their Empire in a matter of weeks with very few deaths. Her troops were posed to attack when France finally surrendered, and as such she pledged her and her nation's loyalty to Germany. Shortly after the war she released her best selling autobiography, Mijn strijd (My struggle), and it quickly became required reading for highschool students.

Description of you nations economy: The Dutch Economy is fully industrial, manufacturing products from an empire on which the sun never sets. It is being pressed to build war goods now, but is normally being used to make things like ships, automobiles, and appliances. It also is able to sell rubber and oil to all the powers of Europe, owning the Dutch East Indies. Having not been involved in the war for the most part, it suffered no real damage.

Description of the Military: The Dutch Military is still modernizing, but this is little problem with the full backing of their Empire. The Navy is becoming the main concern of the Dutch, needing one to compete with the British and Japanese, as such every Dutch drydock is building ships at the moment. The airforce is also receiving new airships based on German designs, due to their use as a terror weapon. Its stock of chemical weapons is second only to the Germans.

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Also, I would be more than happy to make a map for this RP if you would like

First of all,thanks for the offer,I have a map in development,though help in filling it would be appreciated.
The current map is Here.
EDIT: Though it should be noted that even the things that are on the map might be changed,for example I just noticed Malta being Italian here.

Though I am interested in how you got a german Duke onto your throne.
I also am thinking about how you intend to hold the french/walloon parts of Belgium.
And finally,of what exactly that pledge of loyalty to germany would entail.

But most of all,probably how again Britain would've kept out of the war.
I took the germans leaving the belgians neutral as the reason for the british to follow their policy of observing the continent.
Though attacking Belgium,while talking about Britain as enemy and germany as ally somehow,to me at least,seem to be pulling in Britain again.

And as second to that,about your quite fast modernization,
According to everything I find,the Dutch army,airforce and navy were all in a substandard state at the time of WW1.
Which even if Belgium wasn't ready,probably would have to use a significant amount of its forces to overpower them.


Serbian nationalisim didnt cause the war -.- . Anyway Serbia was forced to become a protectorate of AH in return for peace, still it has nationalistic ideas.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:16 am

Savski Venac wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Text I wrote and now removed for post lenght


Serbian nationalisim didnt cause the war -.- . Anyway Serbia was forced to become a protectorate of AH in return for peace, still it has nationalistic ideas.

Serbian Nationalism caused the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,if I recall correctly.
And the July Crisis,being the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,in turn was the spark igniting the war.

So,indirectly,if you wish,Serbian Nationalism ignited the war.

So again,an existing AH,owning areas of serbian population,would definitely punch down any serbian nationalism,even more so if it can through a protectorate.
Zepplien wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Text I wrote and now removed for post lenght

How about if I take Flanders, and Belgian Oversees colonies, and leave the Franco-Belgian south alone? Like a peace treaty, because clearly the Germanic Dutch would win over the French Belgians.
I meant her endearing herself to the Dutch Belgians

I would be ok with that

That might be a solution.
Are you implying racism?
Ok,now I understand the connection.

I think I would be too.
Though the other option could be that you fully take them over,though that would mean you have a somewhat hostile area to control.
And the last option,which I think I would favor most,though which might not be necessary,is that at the beginning of the IC,the war just starts(For example,I might consider that option if we get belgium apps,though probably not if we don't).
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Postby Corenea » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:22 am

I'll be reserving Korea, Japan, and Manchuria if that's alright with you. I'll be posting my app in a few hours.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Thu Oct 24, 2013 1:32 am

Corenea wrote:I'll be reserving Korea, Japan, and Manchuria if that's alright with you. I'll be posting my app in a few hours.

Yes.
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Postby Zepplien » Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:43 am

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Savski Venac wrote:
Serbian nationalisim didnt cause the war -.- . Anyway Serbia was forced to become a protectorate of AH in return for peace, still it has nationalistic ideas.

Serbian Nationalism caused the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,if I recall correctly.
And the July Crisis,being the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,in turn was the spark igniting the war.

So,indirectly,if you wish,Serbian Nationalism ignited the war.

So again,an existing AH,owning areas of serbian population,would definitely punch down any serbian nationalism,even more so if it can through a protectorate.
Zepplien wrote:How about if I take Flanders, and Belgian Oversees colonies, and leave the Franco-Belgian south alone? Like a peace treaty, because clearly the Germanic Dutch would win over the French Belgians.
I meant her endearing herself to the Dutch Belgians

I would be ok with that

That might be a solution.
Are you implying racism?
Ok,now I understand the connection.

I think I would be too.
Though the other option could be that you fully take them over,though that would mean you have a somewhat hostile area to control.
And the last option,which I think I would favor most,though which might not be necessary,is that at the beginning of the IC,the war just starts(For example,I might consider that option if we get belgium apps,though probably not if we don't).

I'm implying Germany is winning the first world war, and it would be more likely for the Dutch to get support in a way than the Belgians in the event of a long drawn out conflict.

I am ok with the war just starting at the beginning
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Postby Savski Venac » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:27 pm

The Jonathanian States wrote:
Savski Venac wrote:
Serbian nationalisim didnt cause the war -.- . Anyway Serbia was forced to become a protectorate of AH in return for peace, still it has nationalistic ideas.

Serbian Nationalism caused the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,if I recall correctly.
And the July Crisis,being the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,in turn was the spark igniting the war.

So,indirectly,if you wish,Serbian Nationalism ignited the war.

So again,an existing AH,owning areas of serbian population,would definitely punch down any serbian nationalism,even more so if it can through a protectorate.
Zepplien wrote:How about if I take Flanders, and Belgian Oversees colonies, and leave the Franco-Belgian south alone? Like a peace treaty, because clearly the Germanic Dutch would win over the French Belgians.
I meant her endearing herself to the Dutch Belgians

I would be ok with that

That might be a solution.
Are you implying racism?
Ok,now I understand the connection.

I think I would be too.
Though the other option could be that you fully take them over,though that would mean you have a somewhat hostile area to control.
And the last option,which I think I would favor most,though which might not be necessary,is that at the beginning of the IC,the war just starts(For example,I might consider that option if we get belgium apps,though probably not if we don't).


Well if im correct i am not accepted? :P MAy I then reserve Ukraine?
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Postby Segmentia » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:34 pm

May I ask to reserve Great Britain? I'll try to have an app up by tomorrow, of course.
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Postby The Jonathanian States » Thu Oct 24, 2013 12:59 pm

Segmentia wrote:May I ask to reserve Great Britain? I'll try to have an app up by tomorrow, of course.

ok.
Savski Venac wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:-snippedy-snip-

Well if im correct i am not accepted? :P MAy I then reserve Ukraine?

No,you aren't and yes,you can,respectively.

For Both of,Reservation will stay until Sunday,then I'll reopen it again.

Zepplien wrote:
The Jonathanian States wrote:Serbian Nationalism caused the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,if I recall correctly.
And the July Crisis,being the muder of Erzherzog Ferdinand,in turn was the spark igniting the war.

So,indirectly,if you wish,Serbian Nationalism ignited the war.

So again,an existing AH,owning areas of serbian population,would definitely punch down any serbian nationalism,even more so if it can through a protectorate.

That might be a solution.
Are you implying racism?
Ok,now I understand the connection.

I think I would be too.
Though the other option could be that you fully take them over,though that would mean you have a somewhat hostile area to control.
And the last option,which I think I would favor most,though which might not be necessary,is that at the beginning of the IC,the war just starts(For example,I might consider that option if we get belgium apps,though probably not if we don't).

I'm implying Germany is winning the first world war, and it would be more likely for the Dutch to get support in a way than the Belgians in the event of a long drawn out conflict.

I am ok with the war just starting at the beginning

Makes sense.

And ok,good,then that might be what we'll do.
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