Milograd wrote:Nice timing, Jack.
Out of my head, dear.
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by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:25 pm
Mad Jack wrote:Feux wrote:I believe he was trying to paint Bel's opinions regarding regional governments as a direct reflection of the system in The South Pacific, even though Bel is a member of the Deshret and probably was speaking as such at the time.
Bel proposed a constitution that was pretty much a replica of TSP's. Now I have nothing against TSP's constitution, but it doesn't suit the culture or history of Osiris.
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Mad Jack » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:26 pm
by NS Confidential » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:31 pm
Mad Jack wrote:Your staffers would be better off reporting on the recall of the Minister of the Army in TSP... which would also tell you a few things about the state of the army of TSP...
by McMasterdonia » Thu Oct 17, 2013 6:52 pm
Mad Jack wrote:Feux wrote:I believe he was trying to paint Bel's opinions regarding regional governments as a direct reflection of the system in The South Pacific, even though Bel is a member of the Deshret and probably was speaking as such at the time.
Bel proposed a constitution that was pretty much a replica of TSP's. Now I have nothing against TSP's constitution, but it doesn't suit the culture or history of Osiris.
by South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 7:45 pm
McMasterdonia wrote:Mad Jack wrote:Bel proposed a constitution that was pretty much a replica of TSP's. Now I have nothing against TSP's constitution, but it doesn't suit the culture or history of Osiris.
I didn't see any such implication in Bels post that he wanted Osiris to be anything other than a transparent government and I didn't know why Mad Jack was making that accusation. But I have not been paying attention to the internal disagreements of Osiris lately.
It now makes sense to me. That does seem like a rather odd thing for Belschaft to do, planning to exploit the system perhaps A Committee for Public Safety up next, perhaps?
Nice work on the image NSConfidential
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by NS Confidential » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:09 pm
by South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:17 pm
THE FEDERAL REPUBLIC OF BELSCHAFT
GUARDIAN OF THE SOUTH PACIFIC
by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:37 pm
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Unibot III » Thu Oct 17, 2013 8:41 pm
Feux wrote:I think this idea of a Cold War is rather one sided.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:00 pm
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:15 pm
Feux wrote:Unibot III wrote:
I think the assumption that either TNP or TSP are non-fluid ideological points is incorrect. They, out of any of the GCRs, go through the most political change over a given span of a few months.
Yes, but there is always that core group of individuals within in each region to take into consideration; however, your point is valid.
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by Glen-Rhodes » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:20 pm
by South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:23 pm
Glen-Rhodes wrote:Why does nobody ever interview me?
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by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:27 pm
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Feux wrote:Yes, but there is always that core group of individuals within in each region to take into consideration; however, your point is valid.
Political, but not ideological change. Both TNP and TSP have strong regional Assemblies that exercise considerable power in the region and serve as a counterbalance to any ideological change likely to come from a new executive. Further, both regions tend to be non-ideological in general as a result of an established democratic consensus of the center.
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:28 pm
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Unibot III » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:28 pm
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Feux wrote:Yes, but there is always that core group of individuals within in each region to take into consideration; however, your point is valid.
Political, but not ideological change. Both TNP and TSP have strong regional Assemblies that exercise considerable power in the region and serve as a counterbalance to any ideological change likely to come from a new executive. Further, both regions tend to be non-ideological in general as a result of an established democratic consensus of the center.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Feux » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:30 pm
TheBestDudeInHistory wrote:Feux is what would happen if I had my shitposting physically removed, isolated, and permitted to become sentient on its own. And I mean that in the best way possible. Clearly I need to marry Feux.
by Unibot III » Thu Oct 17, 2013 9:32 pm
Feux wrote:I was wrong Bel.
[violet] wrote:I mean this in the best possible way,
but Unibot is not a typical NS player.
Milograd wrote:You're a caring, resolute lunatic
with the best of intentions.
by Cormac A Stark » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:28 pm
NS Confidential wrote:Cormac Stark, a member of Osiris’s Imperial Council, called The South Pacific’s Coalition, an “interregional irrelevance”, “worthless” and “a rotting shell” – he went on to call The South Pacific, “a largely inactive region that has no interest in properly defending itself or providing any meaningful assistance in our defense”. There’s a lot to unpack there, but are these accusations true?
Well, I certainly don't consider them to be accurate. It's true that we, like most GCR's, suffer from periods of regional inactivity and for us this summer lull was a particularly bad one.
As I understand it Cormac was making a political attack on TSP for his own purposes within Osiris, and as such have not paid his accusations a great deal of attention.
by South Pacific Belschaft » Thu Oct 17, 2013 11:46 pm
Cormac A Stark wrote:NS Confidential wrote:Cormac Stark, a member of Osiris’s Imperial Council, called The South Pacific’s Coalition, an “interregional irrelevance”, “worthless” and “a rotting shell” – he went on to call The South Pacific, “a largely inactive region that has no interest in properly defending itself or providing any meaningful assistance in our defense”. There’s a lot to unpack there, but are these accusations true?
Well, I certainly don't consider them to be accurate. It's true that we, like most GCR's, suffer from periods of regional inactivity and for us this summer lull was a particularly bad one.
As I understand it Cormac was making a political attack on TSP for his own purposes within Osiris, and as such have not paid his accusations a great deal of attention.
I stand by my comments. The South Pacific was neither able to manage the liberation effort for its own coup -- which was instead managed by The North Pacific, Osiris, and the UDL -- nor to provide any meaningful assistance to liberate Osiris. The assistance provided by The South Pacific was in the form of one person, Drugged Monkeys, who fell inactive and failed to endorse the correct nations. That TSP is just getting around to contemplating recall of an Army Minister who was so negligent during their own coup as well as the coup of a treaty ally speaks volumes about their interest in defending themselves and their treaty allies, and about their interregional relevance.
I didn't make these comments for any political purpose, as I have no political purpose within Osiris anymore. I made these comments because they're true and I like to cut through the bullshit whenever possible.
Obviously, these comments don't represent the official opinion of the Osiran government. Only the opinion of the person who daily put effort into liberating The South Pacific and saw no similar effort from TSP during the coup of Osiris, and who laughed when he heard the Coalition was calling Osiris' new government illegitimate as if we were supposed to care and as if they were supposed to matter.
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by Cormac A Stark » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:02 am
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:You continue to claim that the New Southern Army deployed just one soldier to Osiris during the Dourian coup. This is false. As has been pointed out to you before, the actual deployment was nine soldiers, which whilst not the largest military deployment in history is 900% larger than the one you are claiming. Further, your absurd argument that the liberation of TSP during the Milograd coup was conducted by The North Pacific, Osiris and UDL has received no support or confirmation from anyone else involved in the operation, including the members of Osiris who had access to our higher command channels at the time. Your allegations have no basis in reality.
by Tim-Opolis » Fri Oct 18, 2013 12:07 am
South Pacific Belschaft wrote:Cormac A Stark wrote:I stand by my comments. The South Pacific was neither able to manage the liberation effort for its own coup -- which was instead managed by The North Pacific, Osiris, and the UDL -- nor to provide any meaningful assistance to liberate Osiris. The assistance provided by The South Pacific was in the form of one person, Drugged Monkeys, who fell inactive and failed to endorse the correct nations. That TSP is just getting around to contemplating recall of an Army Minister who was so negligent during their own coup as well as the coup of a treaty ally speaks volumes about their interest in defending themselves and their treaty allies, and about their interregional relevance.
I didn't make these comments for any political purpose, as I have no political purpose within Osiris anymore. I made these comments because they're true and I like to cut through the bullshit whenever possible.
Obviously, these comments don't represent the official opinion of the Osiran government. Only the opinion of the person who daily put effort into liberating The South Pacific and saw no similar effort from TSP during the coup of Osiris, and who laughed when he heard the Coalition was calling Osiris' new government illegitimate as if we were supposed to care and as if they were supposed to matter.
You continue to claim that the New Southern Army deployed just one soldier to Osiris during the Dourian coup. This is false. As has been pointed out to you before, the actual deployment was nine soldiers, which whilst not the largest military deployment in history is 900% larger than the one you are claiming. Further, your absurd argument that the liberation of TSP during the Milograd coup was conducted by The North Pacific, Osiris and UDL has received no support or confirmation from anyone else involved in the operation, including the members of Osiris who had access to our higher command channels at the time. Your allegations have no basis in reality.
<Koth - 06/30/2020> I mean as far as GPers go, Tim is one of the most iconic
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