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Rhanawyn
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Postby Rhanawyn » Tue Oct 08, 2013 4:01 am

I can't really tell; does anyone else have any territory in/around the Byzantine Empire? I mean, I would knwo what to limit to, exactly, but I'm not sure at the moment...

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Postby Adenian » Tue Oct 08, 2013 6:23 am

Adenian wrote:
Adenian wrote:--Snip--


Edited my Application.

Haven't RP'd in a long time, would be fun to get back into it.


Plop.

As fo the Papacy, it's part of what i'm claiming. But there's still the Vatican and Pope and everything, because then it wouldn't be Medieval. But if someone wanted to RP as the actual states, I'd be fine with giving up that bit of land around Rome. It'd just be a extra fun step in The New Roman Empire anyway~ 8)
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Postby Elerian » Tue Oct 08, 2013 2:32 pm

Elerian wrote:NS Name: Elerian
IC Nation Name: Imperium Polandia
RL Culture: Polish, Lithuanian, Slavic
Capital City: Krakow
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: King
Claimed Territory: http://oi39.tinypic.com/30mwzyv.jpg
State/National Religion: Paganism
Dominant Religion: Paganism
Minority Religion(s): Islam, Christianity
Population: 12 Million
Military Organization: King (commander-in-chief)
Military Size: 300,000
Fleet Size: 40 cogs
National Flag:
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Alto Mantovano
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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:17 am

Greetings.
I see no world map in the OP, so I'm doing it the quick way, as I am on my phone:
Which lands remain unclaimed?
What is the average size of a nation? I'd like to start small.
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Postby Alleniana » Wed Oct 09, 2013 3:32 am

Alto Mantovano wrote:Greetings.
I see no world map in the OP, so I'm doing it the quick way, as I am on my phone:
Which lands remain unclaimed?
What is the average size of a nation? I'd like to start small.

Most of Europe and its surrounds are claimed, dunno specifics. India is claimed by me.

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Les Fideles Al-Hajji
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Alto Mantovano
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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 6:59 am

Les Fideles Al-Hajji wrote:This is the most recent map


Meh, if I were to join with just northern Italy I would be far too small to compete with the other players, so I'm not that interestes. Also, why a WORLD map, I thought this was set in the Medieval times?
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:52 am

Alto Mantovano wrote:
Les Fideles Al-Hajji wrote:This is the most recent map


Meh, if I were to join with just northern Italy I would be far too small to compete with the other players, so I'm not that interestes. Also, why a WORLD map, I thought this was set in the Medieval times?


Well if anyone wants to rp Aztecs I guess that's what it's there for. :p Actually, I intended to crop the picture to only Asia, Europe, and Africa, but I forgot to and just linked the picture.
Size doesn't matter. If you were to join with only North Italy, it wouldn't make you too small to compete with the others. It depends on your military, economy, and organization.

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Postby Benuty » Wed Oct 09, 2013 7:55 am

Les Fideles Al-Hajji wrote:This is the most recent map

Looks the same lol.
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Alto Mantovano
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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:34 am

All right then.

NS Name: Alto Mantovano
Nation Name: Unione Prealpina
RL Culture: Lombard, Venetian, Tuscan, German and French also present
Capital City: No Capitals, but Main Cities are Milan, Venice and Florence
Government Type (Feudalism, Warring Tribes, etc.) Italian Communes
Head of State: Gran Sindaco Leonardo dal Villaggio
Claimed Territory: (While we're using a RL map, you don't have to, say be Norman culturally but be in Normandy. As long as you aren't Norman and in Asia or Africa, it's okay.) The Padanian Plain, Tuscany. (I can help if you aren't familiar with italian geography)
State/National Religion: Catholicism
Dominant Religion: Christianity
Minority Religion(s): Judaism
Population: (Please be realistic...) 150,000
Military Organization: Every Levy is commanded by a Captain, who takes orders from a R gional General. (Ex. The Levy of Venice-City takes orders from the general of Venetia (Region), while the levy of the Rural Areas are independent, but will eventually merge with Milan-Cities, to form the army of Milan (Region)
Military Size: Around 7.500
Fleet Size: 25 Armed Galleys, Transport Ships and Merchant Vessels.
National Flag: (Provide a description, if you use a picture, provide in spoiler.) -to be modified-
Coat of Arms: (Same as above, provide picture or description, use spoilers if picture.) -to be modified-
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:35 am

Alto Mantovano wrote:All right then.

NS Name: Alto Mantovano
Nation Name: Unione Prealpina
RL Culture: Lombard, Venetian, Tuscan, German and French also present
Capital City: No Capitals, but Main Cities are Milan, Venice and Florence
Government Type (Feudalism, Warring Tribes, etc.) Italian Communes
Head of State: Gran Sindaco Leonardo dal Villaggio
Claimed Territory: (While we're using a RL map, you don't have to, say be Norman culturally but be in Normandy. As long as you aren't Norman and in Asia or Africa, it's okay.) The Padanian Plain, Tuscany. (I can help if you aren't familiar with italian geography)
State/National Religion: Catholicism
Dominant Religion: Christianity
Minority Religion(s): Judaism
Population: (Please be realistic...) 150,000
Military Organization: Every Levy is commanded by a Captain, who takes orders from a R gional General. (Ex. The Levy of Venice-City takes orders from the general of Venetia (Region), while the levy of the Rural Areas are independent, but will eventually merge with Milan-Cities, to form the army of Milan (Region)
Military Size: Around 7.500
Fleet Size: 25 Armed Galleys, Transport Ships and Merchant Vessels.
National Flag: (Provide a description, if you use a picture, provide in spoiler.) -to be modified-
Coat of Arms: (Same as above, provide picture or description, use spoilers if picture.) -to be modified-


Accepted, I'm not familar with Italian geography, and you'll have to take it up with the map maker.

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Adenian
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Postby Adenian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:37 am

I already claimed Italy and Sicily, the OP still has yet to tell me whether i'm accepted or what I need to change to be accepted.



Adenian wrote:
Adenian wrote:
Edited my Application.

Haven't RP'd in a long time, would be fun to get back into it.


Plop.

As fo the Papacy, it's part of what i'm claiming. But there's still the Vatican and Pope and everything, because then it wouldn't be Medieval. But if someone wanted to RP as the actual states, I'd be fine with giving up that bit of land around Rome. It'd just be a extra fun step in The New Roman Empire anyway~ 8)

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Alto Mantovano
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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:38 am

Great, I will provide flags and CoAs once I'm on my computer.
Same goes with the Map.
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Adenian
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Postby Adenian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:44 am

Well this is a little irritating.
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Alto Mantovano
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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:50 am

Adenian wrote:I already claimed Italy and Sicily, the OP still has yet to tell me whether i'm accepted or what I need to change to be accepted.
Adenian wrote:Well this is a little irritating.


Apologies. Although, I.m only claiming a small part of Italy, above Rome, basically. Historically, Aragon only had Sicily, Sardinia and Naples, and that much later, if I remembef correctly. Perhaps we can work out an agreement?
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Postby Adenian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 8:56 am

Alto Mantovano wrote:
Adenian wrote:I already claimed Italy and Sicily, the OP still has yet to tell me whether i'm accepted or what I need to change to be accepted.


Apologies. Although, I.m only claiming a small part of Italy, above Rome, basically. Historically, Aragon only had Sicily, Sardinia and Naples, and that much later, if I remembef correctly. Perhaps we can work out an agreement?


Except Venice and the upper half of Italy is Capitol lands. And i'm not Roleplaying as Aragon, just using the Aragon/Sicily flag and arms, for lack of finding an actual historic "Italian Kingdom" flag. I could've used the Venetian flag, come to think of it, but... Hmm. I have two Ideas. One, you can be a vassal state and have the northwestern quarter of the peninsula, including Corsica and Sardinia, or you can stage a rebellion in the area with a little help from France and conquer it yourself. Both options are good, and the latter has some really decent RP value.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:00 am

Alleniana wrote:
Alto Mantovano wrote:Greetings.
I see no world map in the OP, so I'm doing it the quick way, as I am on my phone:
Which lands remain unclaimed?
What is the average size of a nation? I'd like to start small.

Most of Europe and its surrounds are claimed, dunno specifics. India is claimed by me.


Allen, you mind being a co-op? All I need for you to do is help me sort out the apps and accept them.

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Postby Alto Mantovano » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:02 am

Ah, I see... Being a vassal would certainly help, due to my small size, but I suppose for equality, bein "independent" would be better.

I don.t know, I let you other guys decide, or whatever the OP says about the situation.
Duca Robin Leonardo II de Cavrianesi, Duke of Alto Mantovano, Leader of the Mantoan League.
During the age of the Signorie, house Cavrianesi took over the duchy of Mantua. While following in the footsteps of the Gonzagas, the new dinasty seeked protection not only in diplomacy, but also in expansion. In a small-scale cold war between the regional powers, a compromise had been reached: The League of Alto Mantovano. A highly federalized union between the italian states, with Alto Mantovano as a Leader.

I'm just a very lazy student, I'm half German and half Italian, and interested in History. Feel free to PM me if you have anything to say.

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Postby Verdum » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:07 am

Italy taken?
Or Venice?

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Postby Adenian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:10 am

Alto Mantovano wrote:Ah, I see... Being a vassal would certainly help, due to my small size, but I suppose for equality, bein "independent" would be better.

I don.t know, I let you other guys decide, or whatever the OP says about the situation.


If Grey Wolf or Allen do accept me, I can see three scenarios happening that i'm all willing to do.

You get the North half of Italy unconditionally and I end up moving my Capitol to Rome and DIssolve the Papal States but keep the pope in Rome. (No RP Value)

You Be a vassal state and hold the north half of Italy, I move my Capitol to Rome, and you Retain a sort of autonomy like historic Medieval France of this era (Lords wage private wars, both with foreign and domestic lords), and enjoy the protection of the rest of the Kingdom (Ideal Compromise for me)

Or you can try conquering the northern half (Would let you win, but wont have more than half of the north) and have your new kingdom live with my Kingdom breathing down your neck with Casus Belli (Legit Reason for War) to kick your butt once stronger again. (Decent RP value, but not as ideal)

I'm more than willing to let you have some or all of what you have, if there's RP value. But if the OP or Co-Op forces asks me to just hand it over, I will.

Also, All of Italy is taken/contested. It's what we're discussing now.
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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:11 am

Adenian wrote:
Alto Mantovano wrote:Ah, I see... Being a vassal would certainly help, due to my small size, but I suppose for equality, bein "independent" would be better.

I don.t know, I let you other guys decide, or whatever the OP says about the situation.


If Grey Wolf or Allen do accept me, I can see three scenarios happening that i'm all willing to do.

You get the North half of Italy unconditionally and I end up moving my Capitol to Rome and DIssolve the Papal States but keep the pope in Rome. (No RP Value)

You Be a vassal state and hold the north half of Italy, I move my Capitol to Rome, and you Retain a sort of autonomy like historic Medieval France of this era (Lords wage private wars, both with foreign and domestic lords), and enjoy the protection of the rest of the Kingdom (Ideal Compromise for me)

Or you can try conquering the northern half (Would let you win, but wont have more than half of the north) and have your new kingdom live with my Kingdom breathing down your neck with Casus Belli (Legit Reason for War) to kick your butt once stronger again. (Decent RP value, but not as ideal)

I'm more than willing to let you have some or all of what you have, if there's RP value. But if the OP or Co-Op forces asks me to just hand it over, I will.

Also, All of Italy is taken/contested. It's what we're discussing now.


Your app is accepted.

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Postby Adenian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 9:13 am

The Grey Wolf wrote:
Adenian wrote:
If Grey Wolf or Allen do accept me, I can see three scenarios happening that i'm all willing to do.

You get the North half of Italy unconditionally and I end up moving my Capitol to Rome and DIssolve the Papal States but keep the pope in Rome. (No RP Value)

You Be a vassal state and hold the north half of Italy, I move my Capitol to Rome, and you Retain a sort of autonomy like historic Medieval France of this era (Lords wage private wars, both with foreign and domestic lords), and enjoy the protection of the rest of the Kingdom (Ideal Compromise for me)

Or you can try conquering the northern half (Would let you win, but wont have more than half of the north) and have your new kingdom live with my Kingdom breathing down your neck with Casus Belli (Legit Reason for War) to kick your butt once stronger again. (Decent RP value, but not as ideal)

I'm more than willing to let you have some or all of what you have, if there's RP value. But if the OP or Co-Op forces asks me to just hand it over, I will.

Also, All of Italy is taken/contested. It's what we're discussing now.


Your app is accepted.


Then all that remains is what to do with the land north of Tuscany and the area there.
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Postby Elerian » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:29 pm

Elerian wrote:
Elerian wrote:NS Name: Elerian
IC Nation Name: Imperium Polandia
RL Culture: Polish, Lithuanian, Slavic
Capital City: Krakow
Government Type: Absolute Monarchy
Head of State: King
Claimed Territory: http://oi39.tinypic.com/30mwzyv.jpg
State/National Religion: Paganism
Dominant Religion: Paganism
Minority Religion(s): Islam, Christianity
Population: 12 Million
Military Organization: King (commander-in-chief)
Military Size: 300,000
Fleet Size: 40 cogs
National Flag:
Coat of Arms:

Subbed again.

Hello?

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Postby The Grey Wolf » Wed Oct 09, 2013 2:37 pm

Elerian wrote:
Elerian wrote:Subbed again.

Hello?


Accepted.

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