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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:14 pm

Why are we moving DD to the top?
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Postby Kamchastkia » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:19 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:Why are we moving DD to the top?

For some stupid transport bill which is not important enough to be moved to the top, but ainin likes moving his bills to the top sooo :P.

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Postby New Bierstaat » Fri Oct 04, 2013 2:23 pm

Kamchastkia wrote:
New Bierstaat wrote:Why are we moving DD to the top?

For some stupid transport bill which is not important enough to be moved to the top, but ainin likes moving his bills to the top sooo :P.

I'm against this motion, because I'd like to write a couple of bills for that category and have the Leishaagen map approved as well.
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Postby HumanSanity » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:00 pm

Please add this to the top.

Motions Reform Act
Author: HumanSanity | Sponsors: New Zephua (Ind.), Fulflood (NDP), Kamchastika (SAP) | SIMBEDS Category: Senate Proceedure

Preamble
Recognizing that various rules regarding motions in the Senate chamber have been instated throughout time and that, because of this, they are often inconsistent and difficult to find and apply.

On Motions
1. Any Senator may place a motion before the Senate. Any Senator may second a motion before the Senate.
1a. The necessary seconds for the enactment of a motion must be obtained within 24 hours of the motion originally being placed before the Senate. If more than 24 hours pass the motion will be considered closed.
1b. Any Senator who makes or seconds a motion withdraw their motion or second at any time before the motion is enacted.
1c. No proxy motions may be used.
1d. Once the necessary seconds have been obtained a motion will have passed and no counter-motion may be raised against it.

On Counter Motions
2. Any Senator may place a counter-motion before the Senate. Counter-motions must be in opposition to a specific motion that has not already been enacted.
2a. A counter motion mandates that the motion countered receives one more second than was previously necessary.
2b. Only 10 counter motions may be logged against a motion.
2c. Counter motions may not be done by proxy.

On Approval
3. Where approval by an official is necessary the approval of the President of Aurentina, the Vice President of Aurentina, the Prime Minister, the Deputy Prime Minister, or the President pro Tempore of the Senate will be sufficient.
3a. If the necessary seconds have been obtained on a motion but not approval no counter motions may be lodged.
3b. If approval is not secured within 24 hours of the original motion being made then the motion will be closed.

Reforming Motions
4. The following motions may now be made and enacted with the specified number of seconds. Any motions in Aurentine law that are addressed here are superseded. Any motions in Aurentine law that are not addressed here still stand.
4a. A motion made by a bill's author to withdraw it from the queue is enacted when seconded. This motion cannot have a counter-motion raised against it.
4b. A motion to move debate to a different SIMBEDS Category may be made and is enacted when tenthed and after having been approved.
4c. A motion to change a bill's Omnibus category will be enacted when tenthed and approved.
4d. A motion to extend debate will be enacted when tenthed and approved. Debate may not be extended by more than 24 hours.
4e. A motion to extend voting will be enacted when tenthed and approved. Voting may not be extended by more than 48 hours.
4f. A motion to end debate early may only be enacted when twelfthed and approved. Ending debate early may only occur after one half of the debate time has already elapsed.
4g. A motion to end voting early may only be enacted after 24 hours of voting have already passed and if 90%+ of the votes are currently in favor of all bills up for vote. A motion to end voting early will be enacted when tenthed and approved.
4h. A motion to count quorum on a measure will necessitate one fourth of all Senators to vote on a measure and will be enacted when fifteenthed and approved by at least two of the five listed officials.
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Postby Gothmogs » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:01 pm

New Bierstaat wrote:
Kamchastkia wrote:For some stupid transport bill which is not important enough to be moved to the top, but ainin likes moving his bills to the top sooo :P.

I'm against this motion, because I'd like to write a couple of bills for that category and have the Leishaagen map approved as well.

And I want to get to the Environment section. I want to actually pass bills while I'm the MoE.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:03 pm

My plan laid out earlier is not absolute; if there are motions to change the queue then those motions, namely Ainin's one on DD, may carry.

On the matter of counter-motions, I ruled that they were illegal because there's no counter motions in RL and they serve only to stall processes here. On that note, I'd like to ask HumanSanity to prove me otherwise on that former matter, lest I ask him to remove the section on counter motions in his bill for being unrealistic.
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Postby Venaleria » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:25 pm

Shouldn't there be a way to counter-motion? It strikes me as a little off-put. If not, I plan to write a bill on it.
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Postby Britanno » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:34 pm

Venaleria wrote:Shouldn't there be a way to counter-motion? It strikes me as a little off-put. If not, I plan to write a bill on it.


HumanSanity already wrote one.
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Postby Venaleria » Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:36 pm

Britanno wrote:
Venaleria wrote:Shouldn't there be a way to counter-motion? It strikes me as a little off-put. If not, I plan to write a bill on it.


HumanSanity already wrote one.


Oh, silly me. :palm:
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Postby HumanSanity » Fri Oct 04, 2013 5:20 pm

Venaleria wrote:
Britanno wrote:
HumanSanity already wrote one.


Oh, silly me. :palm:

The one that I submitted to the queue a whole four posts before you said that.
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Postby Senator John Doe » Sat Oct 05, 2013 1:56 am

The Nihilistic view wrote:So why do we need a bestiality bill? I am not really well versed in the area.

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Postby Lamaredia » Sat Oct 05, 2013 6:39 am

Senator John Doe wrote:
The Nihilistic view wrote:So why do we need a bestiality bill? I am not really well versed in the area.

Because of some people being disgusted what other people are doing even when there is no physical harm involved. Which is quite ridiculous.
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Postby New Waterford » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:40 am

Lamaredia wrote:
Senator John Doe wrote:

Because of some people being disgusted what other people are doing even when there is no physical harm involved. Which is quite ridiculous.

Well, is the animal able to consent?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:49 am

New Waterford wrote:
Lamaredia wrote:Because of some people being disgusted what other people are doing even when there is no physical harm involved. Which is quite ridiculous.

Well, is the animal able to consent?


In cases where the animal has not indicated consent surely the existing rape laws would be sufficient for trial? Much greater deterrent would you not say? Prosecute it for what it actually is rather than create a lower category of crime and make consenting sex between two different species illegal.
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Postby Kouralia » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:52 am

Have we voted on the bit that included the amendment to the ISA?
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Postby The Nihilistic view » Sat Oct 05, 2013 8:58 am

Kouralia wrote:Have we voted on the bit that included the amendment to the ISA?


No, we have not voted on order C. Since the bills were added whilst section A and B were at vote section C will have to wait until after this next vote. MV ruled on a timetable due to the confusion Yan brought that order C would be voted on after this but if we followed the law then it should have waited till the category came round again.
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Postby Geilinor » Sat Oct 05, 2013 11:30 am

I'd like to submit this.
Organ Donation and Transplantation Act
Urgency: High | Author: Geilinor [NDP] | Category: Health
Co-sponsors: Oneracon(RG), Malgrave(MSP), New Zepuha(NDP), Britanno(NDP), The Nihilistic View(NDP), NEO Rome Republic(NDP)

Preamble
Recognizing that organ transplantation is a life-saving medical procedure, but there are insufficient organs available. Regulations must also be in place to ensure that the supply of donated organs is used as effectively as possible,

Understanding that measures must be taken to increase the supply of donated organs,

Hereby passes the Organ Donation and Transplantation Act.


Section 1 - Definitions
"Trained medical professional" or "medical practitioner" shall be defined as a medical doctor who is practicing with a license.

"Legal death" shall be defined as the irreversible cessation of brain and/or heart and lung activity.

"Organ trafficking" shall be defined as participating in the commercial trading of human organs.

Section 2 - National Transplant Organization
1. The National Transplant Organization (NTO) shall be established within the Ministry of Health. The NTO shall be responsible for coordinating the activities of donation, extraction, preservation, distribution, exchange, and transplantation of organs, tissues and cells within the Aurentine healthcare system.
2. The NTO shall create a code of safety and ethics to be followed during organ harvesting and transplantation, in addition to the provisions of this legislation.
3. The NTO shall create a national database where information about organs available to be harvested and recipients is available to medical practitioners.

Section 3 - Organ Donation
1. A presumed consent system of organ donation shall be establish, where consent to postmortem organ donation shall be presumed, but individuals shall be able to opt-out through a variety of mechanisms designed by the NTO, such as through the Internet or by phone.
2. All donations must be performed by trained medical professionals.
3. Living donors shall be evaluated to determine suitability to donate based on the possible psychological and physical responses to the donation process.
4. Organs must be examined to determine their suitability for donation.
5. Family members may object to the donation if they can show that the deceased would not have wanted to become an organ donor.
6. In the case of postmortem donation, organs may begin to be removed after the onset of legal death.
7. The NTO shall preserve and transport donated organs to the locations where they are needed.

Section 4 - Recipients
1. Information about potential organ recipients shall be posted to the NTO database.
2. Potential recipients shall be prioritized based on need as determined by a medical professional.
3. A person shall be declared a potential recipient if a new organ has the potential to measurably improve their health.

Section 5 - Incentives
1. A public awareness campaign to encourage living organ donation shall be carried out by the NTO.
2. Living donors shall be compensated by the government for transportation costs and lost salary.

Section 6 - Penalties
1. Organ trafficking shall be prosecuted as a felony.
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Postby Battlion » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:29 am

We still haven't had the legislation queue updated!

SOMEONE update it, it's gone for days without being done...

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Postby Divitaen » Sun Oct 06, 2013 2:52 am

Currently are we discussing legislation in Section B of Order, or something else?
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:08 am

Divitaen wrote:Currently are we discussing legislation in Section B of Order, or something else?


Miscellaneous A

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Postby The Shadow of the Prince » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:19 am

Can the President pro Tempore please update the queue?

We are supposed to be debating Domestic Development A.
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:23 am

The Shadow of the Prince wrote:Can the President pro Tempore please update the queue?

We are supposed to be debating Domestic Development A.


The motion did not carry, it's still waiting for two more seconds.
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:47 am

The Shadow of the Prince wrote:Can the President pro Tempore please update the queue?

We are supposed to be debating Domestic Development A.

Seriously, what the fuck is with this account. It's the most useless thing since the American Mob.
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Postby The Prince Of Shadows » Sun Oct 06, 2013 3:54 am

Kouralia wrote:
The Shadow of the Prince wrote:Can the President pro Tempore please update the queue?

We are supposed to be debating Domestic Development A.

Seriously, what the fuck is with this account. It's the most useless thing since the American Mob.


Take a look at the "On to the Beaches [NSGS] [MAFIA] " thread. Then it will make sense.

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Postby Venaleria » Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:01 am

The only person who can update the queue is the PpT. I technically know the account login info, but it would be extremely bad form to go into that account to update the queue. The only thing we can do is wait for the PpT to update it. I'm sorry for the inconvenience it may cause.
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