NSG Senate Lobby: Up for a game of pool? [NSG Senate]

[Kamchastkia]

Then you should await UNITED NATIONS SECURITY COUNCIL approval of military intervention before taking ANY militant action, unless of course, you want to be hypocritical.

I shall wait for whether the UN shows evidence Assad did it or not, as I do not have faith in the Security Council. How well did Russia and China act to Britain's Syria resolution draft?

Then you are in no position to act based on international law if you yourself will not follow it! You are as bad as the President of the United States!

[Britanno]

I shall wait for whether the UN shows evidence Assad did it or not, as I do not have faith in the Security Council. How well did Russia and China act to Britain's Syria resolution draft?

Then you are in no position to act based on international law if you yourself will not follow it! You are as bad as the President of the United States!

And you are as bad as Assad.

[The Nihilistic view]

You sir are saying more and more tyrannical things everyday.

Not how, at no point, has 'consult the MoD' been said by him. I feel utterly superfluous.

Exactly, surly he should be sure you can even carry out such a plan. Since we don't have a blue water navy is there anything you can even do?

[The Nihilistic view]

It is not our job and a waste of taxpayer money.

Hear hear.

[Kamchastkia]

Then you are in no position to act based on international law if you yourself will not follow it! You are as bad as the President of the United States!

And you are as bad as Assad.

You can elevate yourself above international law, but no one else can?

[Kouralia]

Not how, at no point, has 'consult the MoD' been said by him. I feel utterly superfluous.

Exactly, surly he should be sure you can even carry out such a plan. Since we don't have a blue water navy is there anything you can even do?

'don't have a blue water navy' yes, we do. We have an AHD and two D Classes.

[The Nihilistic view]

Then you are in no position to act based on international law if you yourself will not follow it! You are as bad as the President of the United States!

And you are as bad as Assad.

I would take that as a compliment, at least he is not a hypocrite.

[Kouralia]

And you are as bad as Assad.

I would take that as a compliment, at least he is not a hypocrite.

Though he is a cunt.

[Kamchastkia]

I would take that as a compliment, at least he is not a hypocrite.

Though he is a cunt.

Quite hypocritical of you eh?

OOC: I still lub you.

[Britanno]

And you are as bad as Assad.

You can elevate yourself above international law, but no one else can?

My legal advice states that humanitarian intervention would be the basis for any military action. I believe that is sufficient enough to intervene, just like the UK government's legal advice team does.

[Kouralia]

Though he is a cunt.

Quite hypocritical of you eh?

OOC: I still lub you.

Oh, I ICly have no idea what's going on now. The MoD doesn't even support intervention here.

[Kamchastkia]

Quite hypocritical of you eh?

OOC: I still lub you.

Oh, I ICly have no idea what's going on now. The MoD doesn't even support intervention here.

Make sure if the operation occurs it is as shitty as possible okay? Military gets devastated and such. :3.

[The Nihilistic view]

Exactly, surly he should be sure you can even carry out such a plan. Since we don't have a blue water navy is there anything you can even do?

'don't have a blue water navy' yes, we do. We have an AHD and two D Classes.

So, that's a no. We don't have an aircraft carrier, we have a green water navy.

[Britanno]

Quite hypocritical of you eh?

OOC: I still lub you.

Oh, I ICly have no idea what's going on now. The MoD doesn't even support intervention here.

You won't be running an operation though. You're a minister, not a general.

[Kouralia]

'don't have a blue water navy' yes, we do. We have an AHD and two D Classes.

So, that's a no. We don't have an aircraft carrier, we have a green water navy.

Britain doesn't have an aircraft carrier. It is a Blue Water Navy.

[The Nihilistic view]

Though he is a cunt.

Quite hypocritical of you eh?

OOC: I still lub you.

[Kouralia]

Oh, I ICly have no idea what's going on now. The MoD doesn't even support intervention here.

You won't be running an operation though. You're a minister, not a general.

So basically... You ignore the advice of the MoD utterly, ignore the will of senators, refuse to put it to vote, side-step the MoD utterly, and then head straight to the Army to use your powers to go to Syria, regardless?

[The Nihilistic view]

So, that's a no. We don't have an aircraft carrier, we have a green water navy.

Britain doesn't have an aircraft carrier. It is a Blue Water Navy.

Actually We still have HMS Illustrious, it is not being retired until 2014.

[Beta Test]

I am a supporter of the government, but I will not support the president on this. His priorities are all wrong.

[Britanno]

You won't be running an operation though. You're a minister, not a general.

So basically... You ignore the advice of the MoD utterly, ignore the will of senators, refuse to put it to vote, side-step the MoD utterly, and then head straight to the Army to use your powers to go to Syria, regardless?

No. I listen to one of, if not the most, the most important organisations in the world, the United Nations. If they provide evidence that Assad has used chemical weapons, I feel it is my duty as a world leader to authorise some small military intervention.

[Kamchastkia]

You won't be running an operation though. You're a minister, not a general.

So basically... You ignore the advice of the MoD utterly, ignore the will of senators, refuse to put it to vote, side-step the MoD utterly, and then head straight to the Army to use your powers to go to Syria, regardless?

Have you not realized that the President does not give one damn about the will of the Aurentine people or Senators. He does as he wishes regardless of what anyone else tells him or advises him to do. He even feels that he should be able to bypass international law!

[Kamchastkia]

So basically... You ignore the advice of the MoD utterly, ignore the will of senators, refuse to put it to vote, side-step the MoD utterly, and then head straight to the Army to use your powers to go to Syria, regardless?

No. I listen to one of, if not the most, the most important organisations in the world, the United Nations. If they provide evidence that Assad has used chemical weapons, I feel it is my duty as a world leader to authorise some small military intervention.

You listen to the United Nations except when you go to war. Then you bypass the United Nations. You don't listen to them, you use them as an excuse to go to war!

[Belmaria]

I have motioned to move debate to the miscellaneous category in the chamber so we can vote on a bill (REA 2) which allows recalling the president without CoS approval first. If you want to help, please second the motion. We need ten seconds.

[Kouralia]

Britain doesn't have an aircraft carrier. It is a Blue Water Navy.

Actually We still have HMS Illustrious, it is not being retired until 2014.

Ignore the heck out of that, it doesn't count since we have no Harriers.

A term used in the United Kingdom to describe such a force is a navy possessing maritime expeditionary capabilities.

We have an AHD, thus can fight expeditionary Warfare to an extent whereby 'x' is less than the UK.

"...A blue-water navy allows a country to project power far from the home country and usually includes one or more aircraft carriers. Smaller blue-water navies are able to dispatch fewer vessels abroad for shorter periods of time."

[The Nihilistic view]

You won't be running an operation though. You're a minister, not a general.

So basically... You ignore the advice of the MoD utterly, ignore the will of senators, refuse to put it to vote, side-step the MoD utterly, and then head straight to the Army to use your powers to go to Syria, regardless?

Seems like it, when will the whole of the senate realize that our president is only in it for himself?