FT Prime General Thread

[Neo-Mekanta]

@NM
In terms of history, the earliest event I can think of that I was involved in was the Acigoo War. Fun times. I recall the good old days when a two paragraph post was an epic saga, when black holes were flung around with impunity and when we still had good ol' Hive Fleet Immodius wandering around blowing up diplomatic meetings with his crazy tyranid suicide bomber people, then getting mad when people started refuses to allow him into diplomatic RPs.

Oh gods, I forgot about Acigoo. Weren't bits of it still showing up some time later as pocket superweapons, after it was... what, shot into the sun?

I actually got along well ICly with Immodius. I sold him slaves. He gave me lots of minerals. Never had to deal with the diplomatic issues, since Mekanta was already well-established on diplomatic shitlists even among ESUS members so I never saw that.


And while not strictly FT, I remember Hataria. I wonder what could have made me think of that.


I'd just like to, before I continue, link to this. The wank-power theorem.
(I wonder what could have made me link to that.)

... Get used to that joke. I intend to run it straight into the ground in the course of demonstrating that I feel threatened in my position by Akasha dropping the hard truth like a fresh beat and must now take the gloves off.

Also, guess why else. Insert link to flag here.

NM, I read your entire response, and you're right. You don't know me.

No, but from what I'm seeing, I'm quite familiar with your type.

Thus why I've decided to stop being overly soft.

You see, my friends and I have our own standards,

Those are my standards, which most of my friends off - and on - site use.

Guess what? My friends and I write graphic rape scenes when they're necessary. That's not relevant to NS FT either. The "standards" your friends are used to do not magically become the standards here.

And so, I am going to say Thank You for the advice, but perhaps, you'd like to join me and my friends and our standards.
Seeing as they're much more free than NS and Your standards. :)

Is not having a sense of scale, economics, and logistics a prerequisite, or does knowing how big a galaxy actually is or the actual scale of the known universe considered a faux pas?

Because here? There are people who know that stuff. And I prefer to get my jollies from schoolgirls rather than ridiculously inflated numbers for the sake trying to look cool.

3 and a half galaxies is small. Most nations I know from off-site have RPed Empires spanning entire universes.

Most roleplay I've had involved being dwarves. Clearly, NS FT should be set in a dungeon, fighting a lich bent on completing his unholy ritual to raise his long-dead wife who died of old age, but being the murderhobos we are we just want to crush his phylactery and take his gold because whores don't work for free until, cue catch 22, you kill a lich.

Also, the realities of sociology, logistics, and simple scale make the idea of "roleplaying" something occupying a universe of comparable size to our own incredibly funny. It brings to mind a small child standing atop a hill shouting how his imaginary army has "a hundred billion million TRILLION GAZILLION soldiers" without being able to comprehend the magnitude of thousands in anything more than a basic abstract sense.

Look at Akasha's statement about the number of stars in the Milky Way Galaxy. A perfectly average galaxy.

This the Hubble Ultra-Deep Field, an ultra-high detail image of an absolutely tiny portion of the sky. Those are all galaxies. Like ours. There are more galaxies in the universe than there are stars in our galaxy.

And I repeat... Is lacking any kind of sense of scale a prerequisite for your group?

Yeah, like the size of your platoons or warships... (the background ship is a normal cruiser compared to ours, the fronter most one.

And here we have the final validating statement for everything I've just said about your type.

"Look at the vast armies and giant ships aren't they COOOOOOOOOOOOL" presented with size as the determining point of quality.

I feel FT Prime might be too underadvanced for my friends and I.
Sad, we were all hoping to try to join this at some point after we did a few RPs. :s

Translation: "Mean people won't loosen their standards or ignore logic to let us be the huge big guys we're used to being in our insular group without building up credibility."

There are nations that eat physics and shit cosmic horrors running around. There have been stellar scale engineering project that involved moving stars as part of a massive transit project. Underadvanced my arse. You're conflating blind number wank for the sake of big numbers, without any understanding of the framework by which things become huge, with advancement and deciding things are too restrictive because newbies who haven't made a name for themselves coming in claiming to be big badasses has never, ever turned out well, and this is a community that actually possesses a degree of pattern recognition.

As far as I'm aware, I don't know of any active nations that claim even one galaxy.

Neo-Mekanta presently claims-

any active

... Oh. Well, claiming and actually controlling are two completely different things, and the residents of the Milky Way would probably prefer to reject Neo-Mekanta's claims on them.

What? I decided to stop the previous joke, but I still have to make poor attempts at humor. It's part of being Mekanta.

Also, good commentary so far.

I'm frustrated right now. Might as well go down to PMT or something. I don't want to sound like a newb within the community, but I'm trying to make something to be proud of.

I'm just trying to create a FT nation that I feel I can use in RP's and feel as if I created something great.

Sorry if you guys think I'm a newb(I kind of sound like one right now). I don't want to waste your time. If you want me to go, ill go.

Stay.

Everyone starts out new. Some of my early stuff, I'm glad got nuked when Jolt went.

People like you are why I prefer the term newblood. (That, and Tribes 2.)

You? You're an FT Newblood. You're new, but you know this and acknowledge it. You're willing to learn.

Vaxon? Newb.

Do you see a difference?

You don't need to be fuck-off huge to have something to be proud of. You don't need to have a bunch of physics-defying ultra-high tech materiel, or awe-inspiring ships. And yes, I'm aware of the irony of one of the cosmic horror nations saying this.

I just set high standards for myself. That's kind of a problem.

With how many times I've vanished because I've said "THAT'S SHIT, TOSS IT" to a reply, I sympathize. As well as the overthinking.

Some brainstorming advice, since you seem reasonable unlike Old TFU- I mean Hataria- I mean Vaxon...

Read through this, if you haven't. It's Hard SF, but while you're reading, start thinking of answers to a lot of the situations posed and exposed in those articles. Remember, there's nothing inherently wrong with rule of cool, or breaking physics. And yeah, that link from Dubious Nations might help.

But the point is, start thinking of the setting of your nation first. Don't worry about size or power initially. Get the details of how it works. How do you do FTL? Little enslaved Cthulhu creatures that you electrocute to open wormholes? Basic warp drive? How are your ships and fleets structured, organizationally? Don't worry about getting everything down immediately, a good chunk of the fun can be seeing how things develop.

You're worried about fitting into the community, but you're already reminding me a lot of people who have come to become titans in their own right.

You're the type who will do fine. Try not to stress out about it, and just run a bit free. Hell, you can even do something completely silly, and still manage to have fun and be taken seriously around here. The only thing this community doesn't tend to tolerate, in all my years of both being part of it and being suspiciously absent until someone says my name, the only thing that tends to not be tolerated is blatant wank and refusal to learn or adapt.

I would certainly be interested in helping create some sort of crazy FT-Steampunk JAPAN IN SPEHS empire. I've done it before, albeit not in much detail :P

And breaking my grouping of people with their posts...

I have an FT nation based on the Touhou series. You have my gohei on this endeavor.

[Vernii]

High numbers or high standards? There is a difference.

Its perfectly fine to hold your self to a standard but don't get carried away, sit down when you have some free time and think of a planet with entirely different people on it and how they would act and.behave. They can be anything or any species but for now just create something for that one pointplanet in your creative primordial soup.

I have one already. Dracova Primary. That's the home planet of the Grand Dominion Space Hegemony.

Start with that planet then. Personally I use the demo version of this for map-making. Being able to sit down and say "Yes, this is what my capital world looks like," is a pretty good feeling. Particularly when you can look at the map and then figure out where its cities are in relation to each other, etc.

To make a gaming analogy, you'll end up having more pride in a character that you built from level 1 and worked their hometown, motivations, background, etc, then you would if you started a campaign with a level 20 who doesn't even have a name.

EDIT: Also my post in advice may come off a bit harsh, don't take it that way.

[The Akasha Colony]

I have an FT nation based on the Touhou series. You have my gohei on this endeavor.

I had long toyed with doing something involving either Lunarians or Lunarian-expies, but ultimately they never meshed all that well with my nation's concept so I left it alone. Same thing with Gensokyo itself, although canonically none of my nations have ever claimed Japan except fully realistic no-magic MT one-offs.

[OMGeverynameistaken]

I have an FT nation based on the Touhou series. You have my gohei on this endeavor.

I had long toyed with doing something involving either Lunarians or Lunarian-expies, but ultimately they never meshed all that well with my nation's concept so I left it alone. Same thing with Gensokyo itself, although canonically none of my nations have ever claimed Japan except fully realistic no-magic MT one-offs.

Having a nation composed entirely of young girls might also pose a challenge.[/nod]

[The Laxus Union]

I'll create a new thread for the making of the nation. I've been thinking Japanese style with Japanese style history.

[Arthropoda Ingens]

I had long toyed with doing something involving either Lunarians or Lunarian-expies, but ultimately they never meshed all that well with my nation's concept so I left it alone. Same thing with Gensokyo itself, although canonically none of my nations have ever claimed Japan except fully realistic no-magic MT one-offs.

Having a nation composed entirely of young girls might also pose a challenge.[/nod]

Or an opportunity.

[Neo-Mekanta]

I had long toyed with doing something involving either Lunarians or Lunarian-expies, but ultimately they never meshed all that well with my nation's concept so I left it alone. Same thing with Gensokyo itself, although canonically none of my nations have ever claimed Japan except fully realistic no-magic MT one-offs.

Having a nation composed entirely of young girls might also pose a challenge.[/nod]

Tell that to the Ninth Fleet. It's the strongest.

... Honestly, I got kind of ridiculous with the worldbuilding leading up to it. Moe Lavos notwithstanding. I kind of let the concept die, though. I might take another shot at it...

[Vaxon]

@NM.

Wow. Just. Wow. [/thefuq?]

[Daskoxian]

@NM.

Wow. Just. Wow. [/thefuq?]

The guy's good.

Guess what? My friends and I write graphic rape scenes when they're necessary. That's not relevant to NS FT either. The "standards" your friends are used to do not magically become the standards here.

[Vaxon]

@NM.

Wow. Just. Wow. [/thefuq?]

The guy's good.

Guess what? My friends and I write graphic rape scenes when they're necessary. That's not relevant to NS FT either. The "standards" your friends are used to do not magically become the standards here.

Sig it. I dare you. [/endconversationlogs] xD

[Dubious Nation]

Speaking of stellar scale projects I was wondering if anyone had some good sugestion for super or stellar scale projects I could take up in a late RP. It would have to he something that others would want to join otherwise ill just stick it in my tank general RP thread and it will become a minor foot note.

I was thinking of a few massive superscale projects or interconnected superscale projects like a couple of hyperspace relays on par with the mass of the moon. They would either make interstellar travel easier or communication more viable.

But when I heard about groups of players moving a sun I thought it might be cool to hear other peoples ideas for super and stellar scale projects.

Note I RP as a advanced group of humans with a low population spread out over a wide area, so the project would have to be reasonable for that situation, ei a dyson sphere would be a waste of resources at this stage in their development.

[SquareDisc City]

I thought something like a space station construction or a terraforming, but if you've a low population density there's less call for that.

Maybe something related to sports, like the infrastructure for a spacecraft racecourse. It probably wouldn't be a single large structure, but you'd have stuff spread out over considerable distances, and the pressure of needing to get it ready for race day.

Or else a huge science experiment. Like a telescope the size of a planet, that sort of thing, or even something totally made-up.

Whatever you do, I'd think about offering subcontracts for various aspects of the work. People can then have their own companies take those contracts and RP their actions and their workers. So other RPers have the IC reason for joining to make some money. I've not seen a construction RP, but I reckon it's got real potential, with characters ranging from senior bigwigs to blue-collar workers, technical details for those who like such, and plot twists when incidents disrupt the construction.

[Dubious Nation]

hiring out contractors for this project would be a great way to get other players involved in the RP. but that requires the C.A. having past relationships or relationships by proxies with someone to be reasonable allowed to work on a major engineering project like this.

I guess I get a few more first contact RPs with other nations going and let my CA systems thread describe the rise of the CA trade network before I start by Construction project.

Any one else got any ideas on something really cool to build with near infinite resources and energy as well as some high end tech on the mid range between hard and soft scify?

[Caecuser]

hiring out contractors for this project would be a great way to get other players involved in the RP. but that requires the C.A. having past relationships or relationships by proxies with someone to be reasonable allowed to work on a major engineering project like this.

I guess I get a few more first contact RPs with other nations going and let my CA systems thread describe the rise of the CA trade network before I start by Construction project.

Any one else got any ideas on something really cool to build with near infinite resources and energy as well as some high end tech on the mid range between hard and soft scify?

Suppose someone one day decided they were afraid of flying and wanted to walk/drive to their nearest stellar neighbour so you build an enormous bridge a couple lightyears long with artificial gravity on it and you literally walk there.

Just joking btw.

[SquareDisc City]

Any one else got any ideas on something really cool to build with near infinite resources and energy as well as some high end tech on the mid range between hard and soft scify?

Cosmic snooker table with terrestrial planets for balls and brown dwarfs for pockets.

[Caecuser]

Any one else got any ideas on something really cool to build with near infinite resources and energy as well as some high end tech on the mid range between hard and soft scify?

Cosmic snooker table with terrestrial planets for balls and brown dwarfs for pockets.

What about a shield generator the size of a small star that you can use to deflect pretty much anything half a galaxy away?

[Neo-Mekanta]

Mobile gate network. Your people are spread out, give them a way to visit distant friends and relatives quickly, and distribute resources for internal trade/logistics. Or, to reinforce someone under siege. That can be twisted around into the basis for a small alliance/trade agreement. Depending on how the gates function, either one-to-one, or using an addressing scheme, it might require some kind of central control center or gate hub that would need to be built, or defended. Or, have the whole control scheme distributed among the gates. Because of said

Galactic seed storage. Not just plant seeds, genetic templates and live specimens for the life of hundreds of thousands of life-bearing worlds, to preserve galactic biodiversity in the face of assholes who go around popping planets like grapes. Even archives detailing what was/is known about their cultures and histories, to avoid their complete erasure. Part library, part greenhouse, part zoo. Could lead to the establishment of a galactic diversity preservation society/alliance.

[The Laxus Union]

How about a massive interstellar distribution network/system which distributes goods and commodities to different economic complexes or other structures. Think of a secure magnetic field wrapped in to a circular shape forming a tube and then having some sort of propulsion to distribute the goods fast. The Union has a a whole network which works the exactly the same. We call it the Interstellar Magno network or I.M.N.

[Dubious Nation]

Mobile gate network. Your people are spread out, give them a way to visit distant friends and relatives quickly, and distribute resources for internal trade/logistics. Or, to reinforce someone under siege. That can be twisted around into the basis for a small alliance/trade agreement. Depending on how the gates function, either one-to-one, or using an addressing scheme, it might require some kind of central control center or gate hub that would need to be built, or defended. Or, have the whole control scheme distributed among the gates. Because of said

Galactic seed storage. Not just plant seeds, genetic templates and live specimens for the life of hundreds of thousands of life-bearing worlds, to preserve galactic biodiversity in the face of assholes who go around popping planets like grapes. Even archives detailing what was/is known about their cultures and histories, to avoid their complete erasure. Part library, part greenhouse, part zoo. Could lead to the establishment of a galactic diversity preservation society/alliance.

The Galactic Storage has the most room for other players to reasonable join so ill think i go with that, great Idea by the way I wasnt even thinking of anything like that. If I get it up in the coming weeks would you want to join?

[Neo-Mekanta]

The Galactic Storage has the most room for other players to reasonable join so ill think i go with that, great Idea by the way I wasnt even thinking of anything like that. If I get it up in the coming weeks would you want to join?

Depends how the Agents develop. Prior to restructuring my nation, I wouldn't have been able to. At present, diplomacy/peaceful stuff has become a strong possibility, though you'd be dealing with war criminals.

[Dubious Nation]

The Galactic Storage has the most room for other players to reasonable join so ill think i go with that, great Idea by the way I wasnt even thinking of anything like that. If I get it up in the coming weeks would you want to join?

Depends how the Agents develop. Prior to restructuring my nation, I wouldn't have been able to. At present, diplomacy/peaceful stuff has become a strong possibility, though you'd be dealing with war criminals.

what is your nation like?

[Dubious Nation]

Galaxy Map

https://skydrive.live.com/redir?resid=4 ... 3G6u78ViL8

Pop in your nations name and coordinates and see your dot appear. I admit it could look a bit better, but Excel was being annoying.

If there's interest I might add a coordinate converter, so you can take either 'real-world' celestial coordinates or the grid references from the old static map and get out x and y for this map.

cool more people are using this

Who is Ish'Cong?

[Daskoxian]

Galactic storage sounds like a cross between Darwinia's Archive and Halo's Ark. RP'd psilife and Flood-like attacks would be interesting (coincidentally both are forms of sentient viruses).

[Taledonia]

Sorry if you guys think I'm a newb(I kind of sound like one right now). I don't want to waste your time. If you want me to go, ill go.

don't go... Maybe make a ft nation with what you do know rather than what you think is best for what your unsure about? Read this its a great place to start creating a ft nation in my opinion viewtopic.php?p=3661471&sid=2c4ee324eea1b0b1208fa3f7c3bfece5#p3661471

Sorry for any spelling errors or the like in my post akasha but I am doing this on my tablet which has a quirky spell check running right now.

I miss HT. I don't think anyone else on here has ever matched his amusing mixture of wit, sarcasm and arrogance. That, and he always gave me one hell of a good fight.

Edit: My earlier statement may have been unfair. I now nod in the direction of Neo-Mekanta; may he forever rape school girls.

[G-Tech Corporation]

don't go... Maybe make a ft nation with what you do know rather than what you think is best for what your unsure about? Read this its a great place to start creating a ft nation in my opinion viewtopic.php?p=3661471&sid=2c4ee324eea1b0b1208fa3f7c3bfece5#p3661471

Sorry for any spelling errors or the like in my post akasha but I am doing this on my tablet which has a quirky spell check running right now.

I miss HT. I don't think anyone else on here has ever matched his amusing mixture of wit, sarcasm and arrogance. That, and he always gave me one hell of a good fight.

Edit: My earlier statement may have been unfair. I now nod in the direction of Neo-Mekanta; may he forever rape school girls.

I miss TCB more, personally. So many delightful lulz.

That said, I've had that quite from HT in my sig for who knows how long.