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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:28 pm

Imperial Nilfgaard wrote:Yes but it is unlikely that any have reached beyond Type I Civilizations, at least in our part of the galaxy.

If Earth has Somewhat-Intelligent life, I'm pretty sure there's more in the Galaxy.
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Postby Vazdania » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:28 pm

Frisivisia wrote:Probably. They've also almost certainly not visited Earth yet.

This is one of those odd times where I have the same opinion as Frisivisia.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:29 pm

Timna wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:It has to exist.

It actually doesn't. It very likely does.


I know. But it is so likely that there is other life out there, I used it has to.
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Postby Katyuscha » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:29 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:There's next to no chance that it wouldn't, so yes.


Hell, we even have reason to suspect that there may be simple life forms on Europa.

The simple fact that we've found microbial life from Mars (I believe this is an accurate statement) would suggest that life, even if just on the microbial level, is exceedingly common in the universe.
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Postby New haven america » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:31 pm

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Hell, we even have reason to suspect that there may be simple life forms on Europa.

The simple fact that we've found microbial life Fossils on a piece of Mars (I believe this is an accurate statement) would suggest that life, even if just on the microbial level, is exceedingly common in the universe.

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Postby Timna » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:31 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
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Hell, we even have reason to suspect that there may be simple life forms on Europa.

The simple fact that we've found microbial life from Mars...

Have we? When did that happen? You'd think the field of biology would be going publicly mental about it.

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:31 pm

Yes, it does.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:32 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
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Hell, we even have reason to suspect that there may be simple life forms on Europa.

The simple fact that we've found microbial life from Mars (I believe this is an accurate statement) would suggest that life, even if just on the microbial level, is exceedingly common in the universe.


Not life, but fossils.

Other than that you are right, microbial life is fairly common in our universe, and may be more present in other parts of the universe.
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Postby Torcularis Septentrionalis » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:34 pm

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I believe we will probably never know. Is there a chance that we/other life forms will develop the technology necessary for space travel that extensive and fuel-costly? Absolutely. I like to imagine that we're not the only ones, but I can't know for sure.
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Postby Katyuscha » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:34 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:The simple fact that we've found microbial life from Mars (I believe this is an accurate statement) would suggest that life, even if just on the microbial level, is exceedingly common in the universe.


Not life, but fossils.

Other than that you are right, microbial life is fairly common in our universe, and may be more present in other parts of the universe.
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Katyuscha wrote:The simple fact that we've found microbial life Fossils on a piece of Mars (I believe this is an accurate statement) would suggest that life, even if just on the microbial level, is exceedingly common in the universe.

Fixed.

Ah, yes. That's what I was referring to. I don't really keep up with this stuff, much, though I probably should.
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Katyuscha wrote:The simple fact that we've found microbial life from Mars...

Have we? When did that happen? You'd think the field of biology would be going publicly mental about it.

That's why I added the parenthesis. I wasn't entirely sure, but I was corrected.

Still, finding fossils of life from Mars is incredible, and proves the same point.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:35 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Not life, but fossils.

Other than that you are right, microbial life is fairly common in our universe, and may be more present in other parts of the universe.
New haven america wrote:Fixed.

Ah, yes. That's what I was referring to. I don't really keep up with this stuff, much, though I probably should.
Timna wrote:Have we? When did that happen? You'd think the field of biology would be going publicly mental about it.

That's why I added the parenthesis. I wasn't entirely sure, but I was corrected.

Still, find fossils of life from Mars is incredible, and proves the same point.


It is pretty incredible. I hope to see humans land on mars in my lifetime.
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Postby Josh Beaty » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:36 pm

I am with you thinking that scientists have been rather arrogant considering Earth to be the only habitat and climate. I do not think that other life exists in the universe since abiogenesis itself shows that the possibility for life is almost none. Life needing only hydrogen gas would still be very unlikely given that perfect situation would be necessary for such life to create even the basic functions for survival.
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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:37 pm

Josh Beaty wrote:I am with you thinking that scientists have been rather arrogant considering Earth to be the only habitat and climate. I do not think that other life exists in the universe since abiogenesis itself shows that the possibility for life is almost none. Life needing only hydrogen gas would still be very unlikely given that perfect situation would be necessary for such life to create even the basic functions for survival.


To be fair scientists have said that they know for a fact that Earth has life, and can't confirm that there is life anywhere else.
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Postby Katyuscha » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:37 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:Ah, yes. That's what I was referring to. I don't really keep up with this stuff, much, though I probably should.

That's why I added the parenthesis. I wasn't entirely sure, but I was corrected.

Still, find fossils of life from Mars is incredible, and proves the same point.


It is pretty incredible. I hope to see humans land on mars in my lifetime.

Apparently, there's a private investor who's said that he'll be able to land humans on Mars within the next few years.

He's built his own line of space vessels and is planning on selling them to the government and to other private entities for cheap (considering the alternatives) flights to and from Mars.
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It is pretty incredible. I hope to see humans land on mars in my lifetime.

Apparently, there's a private investor who's said that he'll be able to land humans on Mars within the next few years.

He's built his own line of space vessels and is planning on selling them to the government and to other private entities for cheap (considering the alternatives) flights to and from Mars.


Id happily be one of those crew members going to Mars.
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Postby Polopolisburgtonville City » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:38 pm

I think it's extremely likely that life exists elsewhere. Life originated on Earth soon after the surface cooled enough to support it, suggesting that the process wasn't too unlikely. Also, amino acids have been found in comets, suggesting that the building blocks for life would be available on other planets. Most importantly, the universe is HUGE and even if humans never find other life, chances are excellent that it exists. I even think it's likely that INTELLIGENT life exists, because once you have life at all, chances are good that some of it will evolve advanced intelligence.

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Postby Democratic Koyro » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:38 pm

Josh Beaty wrote:I am with you thinking that scientists have been rather arrogant considering Earth to be the only habitat and climate. I do not think that other life exists in the universe since abiogenesis itself shows that the possibility for life is almost none. Life needing only hydrogen gas would still be very unlikely given that perfect situation would be necessary for such life to create even the basic functions for survival.


The universe is a big place. If you take the size of it "Infinitely improbable" things would happen alarmingly often.
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The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:Apparently, there's a private investor who's said that he'll be able to land humans on Mars within the next few years.

He's built his own line of space vessels and is planning on selling them to the government and to other private entities for cheap (considering the alternatives) flights to and from Mars.


Id happily be one of those crew members going to Mars.

He says he'll be able to create a relatively permanent colony of roughly 200 people in inflatable homes on Mars, so that people can pay to spend a month on Mars.

If this is accurate, that's fucking amazing.
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Id happily be one of those crew members going to Mars.

He says he'll be able to create a relatively permanent colony of roughly 200 people in inflatable homes on Mars, so that people can pay to spend a month on Mars.

If this is accurate, that's fucking amazing.


The future already sounds awesome.
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The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:He says he'll be able to create a relatively permanent colony of roughly 200 people in inflatable homes on Mars, so that people can pay to spend a month on Mars.

If this is accurate, that's fucking amazing.


The future already sounds awesome.

Private space companies are the future, man.

There aren't very many things that I can say I support privatization of, but space is one of them.
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Postby Timna » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:43 pm

Josh Beaty wrote:I am with you thinking that scientists have been rather arrogant considering Earth to be the only habitat and climate.

There are many actual scientists (apparently they go by the name 'astro/exobiologists') rather than Internet Scientists who would say it was pretty likely there was life outside of what most people would consider 'Earth' (so basically the surface and a few hundred metres above and below it) see this etc.

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The Scientific States wrote:
Katyuscha wrote:He says he'll be able to create a relatively permanent colony of roughly 200 people in inflatable homes on Mars, so that people can pay to spend a month on Mars.

If this is accurate, that's fucking amazing.


The future already sounds awesome.


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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:44 pm

Katyuscha wrote:
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The future already sounds awesome.

Private space companies are the future, man.

There aren't very many things that I can say I support privatization of, but space is one of them.


I don't see a problem if space exploration is privatized. Considering it doesn't truly affect our citizens general lives I like the idea.
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