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by Geilinor » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:33 pm
by Libertarian California » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:34 pm
by Caecuser » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:34 pm
Geilinor wrote:There are many churches that are willing to perform same-sex wedding ceremonies. Regardless of your view of the Bible, who are you to impose your interpretation on them?
by Geilinor » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:35 pm
by Verbal Pararhea » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:38 pm
by Geilinor » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:39 pm
Verbal Pararhea wrote:Since every Christian pretty much has to cherry pick the bible in order to be compatible with modern 21st century civilization anyway, I don't see the problem with Christians excluding the anti-gay parts of the bible. The book is impossible to follow perfectly, both due to internal contradictions and due to the fact that it contains moral edicts and advice that are rather primitive in comparison to our more developed knowledge and standards. As such, EVERYONE picks and chooses. That many choose to keep that anti-gay parts but choose to discard the parts inconvenient to their personal lives says more about them than it does about the bible.
by Grenartia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:43 pm
Geilinor wrote:Verbal Pararhea wrote:Since every Christian pretty much has to cherry pick the bible in order to be compatible with modern 21st century civilization anyway, I don't see the problem with Christians excluding the anti-gay parts of the bible. The book is impossible to follow perfectly, both due to internal contradictions and due to the fact that it contains moral edicts and advice that are rather primitive in comparison to our more developed knowledge and standards. As such, EVERYONE picks and chooses. That many choose to keep that anti-gay parts but choose to discard the parts inconvenient to their personal lives says more about them than it does about the bible.
This^. I have never heard of a person who truly follows everything in the Bible, because some parts of it are contradictory or simply ridiculous to modern readers.
by Verbal Pararhea » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:44 pm
Geilinor wrote:This^. I have never heard of a person who truly follows everything in the Bible, because some parts of it are contradictory or simply ridiculous to modern readers.
by Fartsniffage » Wed Aug 21, 2013 5:45 pm
by Fartsniffage » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:01 pm
by Williamson » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:01 pm
Libremas wrote:marriage man and woman. if not then arresting is in order
by Blasveck » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:02 pm
Libremas wrote:marriage man and woman. if not then arresting is in order
by Cadia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:02 pm
Libremas wrote:marriage man and woman. if not then arresting is in order
by Williamson » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:03 pm
by Grenartia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:07 pm
by Verbal Pararhea » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:09 pm
Williamson wrote:why?
by Libremas » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:10 pm
by Blasveck » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:15 pm
Libremas wrote:Blasveck wrote:
1. I wan to have a civil discussion.
2. Why is marriage between just a man and a woman? And please give a secular reason.
3. How is two gay men getting married a crime worthy of arresting people. It harms nobody.
1. Okay let us have one.
2. It justifies without tying in with religion. People are not born gay. We are all born straight. Please don't laugh at that. I will provide more evidence in a few minutes. You choose to be gay. You may think you're different when you're young, (Like that idiot Macklemore has stated) but honestly it isn't the case. Yes I was born straight, I never decided to be straight. so what sense does it make that I say people were never born gay? What I mean is I've always been straight and never chose it as I already was, so a gay person cannot per say choose their sexual orientation. But look at history. Let's go back to the ages where we were just starting out, were we just started communicating. were there any gays? no , it was vital to breed with the same sex as we needed to grow. this whole idea of homosexuality dates back to who knows when. however in modern years, and by modern i mean around 1950-2013 it seems there are more and more gays. now while marriage has always been between man and woman. if a state wanted to legalize it then let them do it with a vote and see whether or not they'd actually create that type of unionship.
3. It is a crime in iran, and other countries. soooo...?
by Verbal Pararhea » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:18 pm
Libremas wrote:1. Okay let us have one.
2. It justifies without tying in with religion. People are not born gay. We are all born straight. Please don't laugh at that. I will provide more evidence in a few minutes. You choose to be gay. You may think you're different when you're young, (Like that idiot Macklemore has stated) but honestly it isn't the case. Yes I was born straight, I never decided to be straight. so what sense does it make that I say people were never born gay? What I mean is I've always been straight and never chose it as I already was, so a gay person cannot per say choose their sexual orientation. But look at history. Let's go back to the ages where we were just starting out, were we just started communicating. were there any gays? no , it was vital to breed with the same sex as we needed to grow. this whole idea of homosexuality dates back to who knows when. however in modern years, and by modern i mean around 1950-2013 it seems there are more and more gays. now while marriage has always been between man and woman. if a state wanted to legalize it then let them do it with a vote and see whether or not they'd actually create that type of unionship.
3. It is a crime in iran, and other countries. soooo...?
by Williamson » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:18 pm
Libremas wrote:Blasveck wrote:
1. I wan to have a civil discussion.
2. Why is marriage between just a man and a woman? And please give a secular reason.
3. How is two gay men getting married a crime worthy of arresting people. It harms nobody.
1. Okay let us have one.
2. It justifies without tying in with religion. People are not born gay. We are all born straight. Please don't laugh at that. I will provide more evidence in a few minutes. You choose to be gay. You may think you're different when you're young, (Like that idiot Macklemore has stated) but honestly it isn't the case. Yes I was born straight, I never decided to be straight. so what sense does it make that I say people were never born gay? What I mean is I've always been straight and never chose it as I already was, so a gay person cannot per say choose their sexual orientation. But look at history. Let's go back to the ages where we were just starting out, were we just started communicating. were there any gays? no , it was vital to breed with the same sex as we needed to grow. this whole idea of homosexuality dates back to who knows when. however in modern years, and by modern i mean around 1950-2013 it seems there are more and more gays. now while marriage has always been between man and woman. if a state wanted to legalize it then let them do it with a vote and see whether or not they'd actually create that type of unionship.
3. It is a crime in iran, and other countries. soooo...?
by Grenartia » Wed Aug 21, 2013 6:33 pm
Libremas wrote:Blasveck wrote:
1. I wan to have a civil discussion.
2. Why is marriage between just a man and a woman? And please give a secular reason.
3. How is two gay men getting married a crime worthy of arresting people. It harms nobody.
1. Okay let us have one.
2. It justifies without tying in with religion. People are not born gay. We are all born straight. Please don't laugh at that. I will provide more evidence in a few minutes. You choose to be gay. You may think you're different when you're young, (Like that idiot Macklemore has stated) but honestly it isn't the case. Yes I was born straight, I never decided to be straight. so what sense does it make that I say people were never born gay? What I mean is I've always been straight and never chose it as I already was, so a gay person cannot per say choose their sexual orientation. But look at history. Let's go back to the ages where we were just starting out, were we just started communicating. were there any gays? no , it was vital to breed with the same sex as we needed to grow. this whole idea of homosexuality dates back to who knows when. however in modern years, and by modern i mean around 1950-2013 it seems there are more and more gays. now while marriage has always been between man and woman. if a state wanted to legalize it then let them do it with a vote and see whether or not they'd actually create that type of unionship.
3. It is a crime in iran, and other countries. soooo...?
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