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The Hot War(OOC/AltHist/Semi-Open)

Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:57 am

Announcement:IC is up!

The Hot War

A Cold War gone bad.


Of course, to us, the war seemed sudden. One day it was peace, the next, it was war. One moment, we could dance through the valleys, rest on the grass and go to Church. The next, the valleys were burning, the grass had been trampled and the Church was turned into a fort. To us, the war may seem sudden and unexpected. But it has been years in the making.

Where does it really begin? Most politicians will either tell you it was the dirty Reds, trying to build their Socialist World Republic. They will tell you war is inherent to the communist lifestyle, and that it is an evil ideology. Accordingly, many Bolsheviks and socialists will tell you the war was started by the big, corrupted governments, paid by the corporations to conquer new markets. The communists will tell you, war is inherent to the lifestyle of the capitalist system, and that it is, in fact, an evil system.

Then there are the historians. As usual, they’re the only ones who are right. In the first half of the 20th century, the states of the world rapidly expanded their markets. They made alliances with smaller nations, acquired trade concessions and they used their money to build roads, canals and irrigation. This lead to enormous wealth in many nations, but also to some frowny faces. In many countries, the leaders imposed high taxes on income and trade, making sure they got the lions part of the income. Many thought this to be unfair, and they believed wealth should be distributed equally, getting their ideas from the 19th century philosopher Marx. The people should be in charge of the wealth, not big corporations or monarchs! While, in one part of the world, communism was taking root, the corporations watched the advancement with great fear. Communism, they feared, would destroy private enterprise, and it would decimate their wealth. This, of course, was not crazy paranoia.

This lead to a division in the world. On one hand, you have the Free States, the libertarian countries, with big factories and corporations. They are in dire need to expand to new markets, which is slightly difficult with all the socialist countries popping up. On the other hand, communism. This speaks for itself. Whether they are dictatorships, or governments of the proletariat, these champions of the working class have government control over everything, and private ownership is forbidden, or highly regulated. The neutral countries are everything in between. Only time can tell if neutrality can exist in a world of war.

The division of the world triggered an arms race. The arms race wasn’t hindered by either the free market or the state control. Both sides pumped equal amounts of money in the development of newer, faster, stronger and deadlier weapons. First came the automatic rifles, the giant artillery, the tanks, the aeroplanes. After the conventional weapons, the nations began developing gasses, viruses and chemical compounds, with killing potentials bigger than anything seen before. So deadly, in fact, that the development and usage of those weapons was banned during the Treaty of Copenhagen of 1943.

When it was clear that the race was not diminishing or subsiding, states became more weary. The strategies shifted. Countries didn’t look for technological supremacy anymore, but for an opportunity to strike first. The Venetian Crisis of 1953, the Cuidad-Mexico Crisis of 1960, and the Nanking-Crisis of 1965, all conflicts that nearly escalated into global war. But it made something clear. Nations were now looking for a knock-out blow. To utterly destroy their enemies. To save the world from oppression, whatever oppression that was.

This year, the year of our lord 1973 A.D.

Finally, global conflict has been sparked. The system of alliances came into action, and within the week, the whole world was at war. That happened last week. At the moment, no assault has been started, but as soon as every ally is geared up, the conflict will erupt into the greatest destructive force the world has ever seen. There shall be no ethical code in this war. These people hate each other to the bone. Chivalry died when the weapons industry lived. The Treaty of Copenhagen was the last act of kindness from both sides. Do not expect anything more. This is total war. The end of all we know is nigh, and the world will never, ever, be the same again. Although no genocide, because that will bite you later, just trust me on this one.

This is a Cold War RP, about an Alternate World in global conflict. The era is 1973, and the tech is exactly equivalent. Here are a few things you need to know before signing up and making your nation.

First off, the nations can be completely different. The same peoples still leave in the same place, or slightly different places, but you can make any sort of nation you want. Communist America? You go ahead. Libertarian, free Russia? You go bro. Space age monkeys from mars? Not in a million years.

The nations of the world can be crudely divided into three groups. The First World, the Second world, and the Third World. The First World consists of all the libertarian and capitalist nations, everyone and anyone who their lot in on the capitalist side of the conflict. The only thing that binds them is the same economic policy of enormous freedom of the market. Their goal in the war is to ‘liberate’ as many territories from communism, to open new markets for their produce. The Second World is any communist or overly socialist nation. They try, or pretend to try, to work towards a communist utopia. Their goal in this war is to ‘liberate’ the territories under capitalism, to release them from their slavery to money and to institute a socialist world republic. The third world is everyone not aligned to any of the sides, any country still neutral in the conflict. They can be anything from socialist to fascist, monarchies and theocracies, oligarchies and anarchies. The Third World is constantly being pulled on, as the First and Second Worlds constantly try to gain new allies and new territories.

The battles will go as follows. Two or more sides will do battle which each other. At that moment, we call in our mediator, a co-op who will decide the things like weather, ground and general morale. The two sides will do some manoeuvres, engage in battle, use their tactics. The mediator will decide the effectiveness of each attack, and how many the enemy loses. After a while, this mediator will decide who wins the battle. That’s the battle system. Simple, isn’t it?

Now, this war is about more than just fighting. A war is never just about winning battles. When you invade a country, that territory doesn’t just become part of your nation. It becomes an occupied region, and you must regard it accordingly. People won’t like another nation taking over their homeland, and they will react to it. They might do anything from taking up arms to throwing flowers at passing tanks.(See: France) The degree of hostility of the populace will be decided by the mediator, who will make his judgement according to history and logic. If an African nation liberates another African country from European shackles, they will face a lot less violence than Japan invading China.

As for time, time is relative. Time will progress quicker in certain times, but will move slower in others. As long as everyone is in the same timeframe, things will get along jut fine.

Rules:
1. No Godmodding. If I think you've done something unrealistic or excessive, I'll politely ask you to retcon it, and if you don't, then we might be forced to ask you what the shape of Italy is.(if ya know what I mean) ;)
2. No Flaming. Even if your empires hate each other ICly, try to stay on good terms OOCly, or else any wars become a distasteful mess. Remember everyone, your worst IC enemy should be your best OOC friend. This is not only a rule for this thread, but for Roleplaying in general.
3. No Teleportation. Armies, Navies, Trade Ships, and the like will take time to reach their destinations. We love logistics.
4. Post in a good quality. Take your history in your App, if you write it well, then that will let us know if you are capable of good quality. If you are capable of it, then we know you can do it. And if we know you can do it, we expect it. If you are not fulfilling our expectations, then it looks like you are not putting much effort into the thread, and that makes us all look bad. So, post in good quality.
5. Be reasonable, if something that isn't very favourable to your nation occurs ICly, don't take it as a personal insult. Realism is fun, but it is also extremely cruel. If you can be reasonable in this thread, we will always have a place for you.
6. I may be OP, but I'm not infallible. If you think I've made a poor decision, let me know, and maybe we can work something out.(Someone else wrote the rules for me, that might have been a mistake.) But really, let me know if I am screwing up, but when I say my word is final, that means my word is final.
7. And, of course, have fun!

8*(Added Rule): Use grammatically correct writing in everything you do on this thread. From capitalizations to commas, this rule is one that simply must be followed.

Edit: I cannot stress the eighth rule enough.

The Official Application:
Code: Select all
[b]Nation Name[/b]:
[b]National Flag[/b]:
[b]Claims[/b]:
[b]Form of Government[/b]:
[b]World[/b] (1st, 2nd, 3rd):
[b]Head of State[/b]:
[b]Capital City[/b]:
[b]Population[/b]:
[b]Military Size[/b]: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime at most)
[b]Military Type[/b]: (briefly describe what your military is like)
[b]Naval Strength[/b]: (briefly describe how strong your navy is)
[b]Economic Strength[/b]: (briefly describe how wealthy your nation is)
[b]Land Routes[/b]: (briefly describe how well your nation's cities are connected with roads)
[b]Sea Routes[/b] (briefly describe how well your nation's ports are connected by sea)
[b]History[/b]:
[b]RP Example[/b]: (unless I know you well)

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?:


Map: Waiting for most recent one by Mish.

Accepted Nations:
Free Republic of Japan-Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States
Republic of New Occitania-Fortunagen
Sambesi Republic-Vredlandia
Venetian Empire-Caltarania
Austrian Empire(in exile)-G-Tech Corporation
Spanish Empire-Kavantye
Confederacy of Paraguay-Der Kaiser Mikey III
The Romano-Pontic Empire-The imperial canadian dutchy
Central-West African Republic-The Three Cantons
Poland-Landenburg
Second Revolutionary Republic of Strathclyde-Glasgia
South America Federation-Alleniana
Indian Federation-Epraria
Germany Democratic Republic-North Calaveras
Syndicated Corporations-Photana
United Celtic Kingdom-Dwartzur
Malayan Federation-Kershya
North American Union-Mishmahig
The Principality of Liechtenstein-Atelia
The United Korean Peninsula-Greater Corea
The Indomitable Seminole Republic-Transoxthraxia
Heavenly Empire of China-Ublia


Thread Hierarchy:
|=Me
||=The People who may accept/deny applications, help decide battles, etc.
|||=The People who have all the fun.

|OP/Mediator: Yours Truly

||Mediator: GCOCS

||Mediator: G-Tech Corporation

||Mediator: Alleniana

|||The Pawns Players!: Everyone else.

|||Guy who likes to draw(Our Cartographer!): Mishmamig

Well, you've reached the end, if you really had the dedication to read all of this, then you're all set to write a great App. Now stop reading, and start writing!
Last edited by Fortunagen on Thu Aug 22, 2013 6:58 pm, edited 14 times in total.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:22 am

Nation Name: Free Republic of Japan
National Flag:
Image

Claims:Japan
Form of Government: Oligarchy, Elitist Republic
World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): 1st
Head of State: Chancellor Takeda, Shogun Tokugawa
Capital City: Kyoto
Population: 115.000.000
Military Size: 15.000.000
Military Type: The military has large amounts of hardware, gotten through mass production, but it lacks people with enough training to use them. The air force and navy are somewhat left behind, but the Japanese have a fighting spirit that is nearly unmatched. Bushido is taught to every son and daughter of Nippon, and conscription is in place. There is a small core of professional soldiers, but most of the men are just conscripts with some training.
Naval Strength: It is lacking somewhat, but it’s enough to defend the homeland, for now.
Economic Strength: The select few are extremely wealthy, and so is the government, but the populace lacks the means. Most of them earn enough to buy luxuries, but only because the economy needs it. There is almost no money left at the end of the month for those people, so tourism to foreign lands is almost unheard of. Except for the select few, of course.
Land Routes: Most cities are connected with roads and railway, but the smaller towns and villages are lucky if the roads are hardened. If you live in a small village, dirt roads are your way of transportation.
Sea Routes The ports are good, but mostly meant for the transport of goods, not for people. Most cities have their own yacht yards for the wealthy.
History:Let me look if I can find it. I have it here somewhere…
The name's James. James Usari. Well, my name is not actually James Usari, so don't bother actually looking it up, but it'll do for now.
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:34 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:-Snip-

I remember reading it, and it was good!

So if you posted it, that'd be good, but you're accepted.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:37 am

Also, my app will be up in a bit, sorry about that. :blush:
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:08 am

Looks interesting! Working on an app as we speak, probably something... British. Perhaps not. (Probably though)
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Postby Towson » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:28 am

Nation Name: The Swedish Empire.
National Flag:Image
Claims: Sweden,Finland,Northern Norway,Svalbard Island,Iceland,Greenland and The Farore Islands.
Form of Government: A Constitutional Monarchy/Fascist-Ultra Nationalist One-Party State
World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): 1st (Development) 3rd (Alliance)
Head of State: King Carl XVI Gustaf and Prime Minster Felix Kjellberg (Not Pewdiepie)
Capital City: Stockholm
Population: 15,000,000
Military Size: (the amount should be no more than 5% in peacetime at most): 750,000
Military Type: (briefly describe what your military is like): A like In real life Sweden only Bigger.
Naval Strength: (briefly describe how strong your navy is): A large well Devolved Navy for going into the North Sea,The Batics,The Artic and the Atlantic.
Economic Strength: (briefly describe how wealthy your nation is): Very Wealthy and Developed.Strong Welfare State.
Land Routes: (briefly describe how well your nation's cities are connected with roads): Freeways connect Cites,Roads can be anything in Rural Regions.
Sea Routes (briefly describe how well your nation's ports are connected by sea): Sweden is the master of Sea Travel.Large Fleets of Ferries and Cruise Ships.
History: Every thing is the same until in 1940 When the Sweden Democrats came to power and allied with Nazi Germany and Fascist Italy but never joined the war.But did take over a lot of axis held area's in Scandinavia in the later end of the war.But after the War Sweden is still being ran by the Democrats and Still is very Fascist.It's likely to fight any near by Communist powers.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=250525&p=15578435&sid=62a5ae309adc210a65d3ef434db4d8b0#p15578435 (unless I know you well)

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?:
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:38 am

Nation Name: New Occitania
National Flag:
(Same one as last time)
Claims: Southern Half of South America, Falkland Islands
Form of Government: Federal Representative Democracy.
World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): A mix between the 1st and the 3rd Worlds.
Head of State: Consular Stephen Mallory
Capital City: Bellonne(Punta Arenas)
Population: 12,945,032
Military Size: 740,340
Military Type: There is a portion of the military that is strictly professional and is considered the actual "military" per say, while there is also thousands of police and militia throughout the nation that can fire weapons if attacked.
Naval Strength: A small, technologically advanced fleet, focused on defending the Drake Passage and the coastlines.
Economic Strength: A strictly regulated system of capitalism, and as a result it has a strong domestic economy, but internationally it is fairly lacking.
Land Routes: Roads and railways connect major cities, with four major international airports in the nation, but mostly roads are from farms to cities, and then from cities to ports.
Sea Routes: Well, in this storyline, the Panama Canal was never built, and as a result the Drake Passage is the only real Northwest Passage, even though it is more of a South Passage, but yeah, long story short, it's a major passage of commerce.
History:
The Republic of New Occitania was formed when the revolutionaries in France were driven out of their southern homelands and set sail to South America. With their radical beliefs and ideals of the 18th Century, they build a nation, and while many were lost due to the unforgiving climate, the population remained strong enough to grow, and with the invention of fertilizers, the fields reaped massive rewards, and soon the population grew again, using it's control of the only passageway from the Atlantic to the Pacific to levy international power, and over time it was recognized as a member of the World. When the year 1900 rolled around, it's territory, along with the population, had grown, but the World was changing and the Republic had to adapt, so it took a strong stance of regulation and preventing inflation within it's borders. Now it is trying to protect it's Republicanism against the radical parties of the Modern Era.

Sorry it's TD:LR, but it's just to give you an idea while I figure out the rest of my history.
RP Example: I'm the OP.

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?:
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:42 am

Right, I'm reserving this, plus some more of Italy, Turkey, Greece and East Europe.

Goooo Venice!
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:43 am

Caltarania wrote:Right, I'm reserving this, plus some more of Italy, Turkey, Greece and East Europe.

Goooo Venice!

Alright, get an App up as soon as possible...
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:43 am

Fortunagen wrote:
Caltarania wrote:Right, I'm reserving this, plus some more of Italy, Turkey, Greece and East Europe.

Goooo Venice!

Alright, get an App up as soon as possible...


Yeah, I'm working on as we speak, just didn't want it to get taken. :)
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:44 am

Towson wrote:-snip-

RP Sample link isn't working.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:45 am

Caltarania wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Alright, get an App up as soon as possible...


Yeah, I'm working on as we speak, just didn't want it to get taken. :)

I got you! And really, add some depth to the histories, as I need to work on my own more, atleast a couple paragraphs..
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:46 am

Caltarania wrote:Right, I'm reserving this, plus some more of Italy, Turkey, Greece and East Europe.

Goooo Venice!

Bah. German. *spits on ground*

You might have some conflicting claims with another player, but I'm sure you two can work it out. Could you also give some history to the Venetian Crisis, in the history? That would be swell...
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:47 am

Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:
Caltarania wrote:Right, I'm reserving this, plus some more of Italy, Turkey, Greece and East Europe.

Goooo Venice!

Bah. German. *spits on ground*

You might have some conflicting claims with another player, but I'm sure you two can work it out. Could you also give some history to the Venetian Crisis, in the history? That would be swell...


Wait, do I just decide exactly what it is then?
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Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 15, 2013 10:49 am

Caltarania wrote:
Great Confederacy Of Commonwealth States wrote:Bah. German. *spits on ground*

You might have some conflicting claims with another player, but I'm sure you two can work it out. Could you also give some history to the Venetian Crisis, in the history? That would be swell...


Wait, do I just decide exactly what it is then?

As long as it's in the right year, and worthy of being called a crisis... Also, it nearly sparked a war. Whatever you make it.
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Postby Vredlandia » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:01 am

Nation Name: The Sambesi Republic

National Flag:
Image


Claims:
Image


Form of Government: Fascist Dictatorship

World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): 3rd

Head of State: Finan Kutesa

Capital City: Maputo

Population: 36.172.000

Military Size: 434.064 (1.2%)

Military Type: Although the military is poorly equipped and not presitigous at all, its large size can bring some advantages in battles. Also it is permanently helping to keep up the civil order.

Naval Strength: The navy of the Sambesi Republic is almost non-existant and only consists of some coast patrol ships.

Economic Strength: The minerals and resources of the Republic are very important for their economy and play a huge part in it. Unfortunately, their trade is very undeveloped and they can't sell their products, leading to trade deficits and unemployment.

Land Routes: There are paths all over the nation, but real roads are only common to connect large cities and in cities themselfs.

Sea Routes The nation has got large ports, but they are often empty and unused, what leads to their decomposing.

History: The Sambesi Republic originated from a Kingdom in the location of Mozambique. In 1795 King Hawasi I. decided that they would need to expand in order to impress the European powers so the Kingdom would be left alone. The wars went well and it only took them three decades to expand into the size they have got now. However, the administrators of the nation were too slow to integrate the new provinces in their work, which lead to a missing military presence in those provinces. The people there didn't want to adjust to a King that wasn't from their tribe.

In the later 19th century tensions were growing high. After King Aboro, the grand-nephew of Hawasi, died his son took over the throne and the nation. While the previous King was unstable, but still able to hold the power in all provinces, hell broke loose right after the coronation of the new one. The revolution started in a small Eastern province and slowly spread to the other provinces. In 1879 it finally reached the original provinces. However, the locals didn't think it was about finding a neutral substitute for the King, but about abolishing the monarchy. And so it came the Sambesi Republic was declared in 1883, after some parts of the nation had already been taken over by the revolutionaries. In winter 1884 the whole nation was occupied and the monarchy abolished.

With the Republic great changes have been made. Sambesi actually wanted to open themselfs for diplomatic contact with Europe. Ports have been built, the borders partly opened, the biggest cities even had districts that had a culture similar to the current Western one. However, all those efforts were for nothing. With the debts rising and people losing their jobs, the dissatisfaction also rised. The elections of 1930 showed a devastating result for the Conservative Christians, twenty percent of their votes went to a new party, the National Solution Party. This big loss in votes led to the creation of a Conservative-Socialist coalition. Many voters saw this as treason to their party loyalty. The next elections brought a further rise of the NSP.

In 1938 it was time for new elections. The NSP had 48% of the votes, the Communist Party of Sambesi 9%, the Social Democrats 14% and the Conservative Christians 22%. In order to not be forced to cooperate with leftists again, they had to agree to the coalition treaty of the NSP. All leftist parties had been banned from political offices and 2/3rd of their parliament seats went to the NSP, the rest to the Conservative Christians. 1939 the parliament was occupied by the NSP and every member forced to vote for a new proposal: Absolute rights for the Chancellor.

With their newly gained power the National Solution Party dissolved the parliament. The people were quite sceptical at first, but after they noticed that the new government actually was quite pleasant if you followed their rules, no further conflict erupted. Both public and private life were in the meantime being more and more observed by the government agencies and every political threat eliminated. The first Chancellor, as his common name his, introduced military and social reforms. Unfortunately he died in 1952 before they could be noticed nationwide. His successor was the former leader of the National Protection Agency, the 34 years old Finan Kutesa. Kutesa built the national focus around him and finally established nationalism in Sambesi.

RP Example: Well, I'd just say Smoke and Steel

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?: The Venetian Crisis of 1953, the Cuidad-Mexico Crisis of 1960, and the Nanking-Crisis of 1965
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Corrupt Dictatorship

Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:16 am

Shiny. I'll happily reserve Antarctica.
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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:29 am

Vredlandia wrote:Nation Name: The Sambesi Republic
National Flag:
Claims:
Form of Government: Fascist Dictatorship
World (1st, 2nd, 3rd): 3rd
Head of State: Finan Kutesa
Capital City: Maputo
Population: 36.172.000
Military Size: 434.064 (1.2%)
Military Type: Although the military is poorly equipped and not presitigous at all, its large size can bring some advantages in battles. Also it is permanently helping to keep up the civil order.
Naval Strength: The navy of the Sambesi Republic is almost non-existant and only consists of some coast patrol ships.
Economic Strength: The minerals and resources of the Republic are very important for their economy and play a huge part in it. Unfortunately, their trade is very undeveloped and they can't sell their products, leading to trade deficits and unemployment.
Land Routes: There are paths all over the nation, but real roads are only common to connect large cities and in cities themselfs.
Sea Routes The nation has got large ports, but they are often empty and unused, what leads to their decomposing.
History: WILL FOLLOW! I JUST WANT TO HAVE MY CLAIMS UP
RP Example: Well, I'd just say Smoke and Steel

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?: The Venetian Crisis of 1953, the Cuidad-Mexico Crisis of 1960, and the Nanking-Crisis of 1965


I like it, get that history up and you're in.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:29 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:Shiny. I'll happily reserve Antarctica.

Just remember, penguins don't make great front line infantry.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby G-Tech Corporation » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:31 am

Fortunagen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Shiny. I'll happily reserve Antarctica.

Just remember, penguins don't make great front line infantry.


But of course.

That's why I have the Austrian Empire-in-Exile.

I'm assuming the Habsburgs did fall yes? Or is that completely up to players?
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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:32 am

Fortunagen wrote:
G-Tech Corporation wrote:Shiny. I'll happily reserve Antarctica.

Just remember, penguins don't make great front line infantry.


Or do they?

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Postby Fortunagen » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:33 am

G-Tech Corporation wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Just remember, penguins don't make great front line infantry.


But of course.

That's why I have the Austrian Empire-in-Exile.

I'm assuming the Habsburgs did fall yes? Or is that completely up to players?

It's up to you, but if you'd like sure.
Puzikas wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Fortunagen is a non-nuclear state despite having vast reserves of uranium.

We couldn't POSSIBLY be stocking up for something.


Shutup, Iran! :p


Mistelemr wrote:With how many shootings that happen almost daily now, I find it hard to care.

Sure I hate myself for it, but fuck it, we invited this. It's sad, but at some point you just stop caring. People can scream and cry but nothing will ever get done about it. When was it last that a shooting incident like this (or any other) actually made people legitimately search for answers or try a new approach? None that I can think of, It's been the same people, shouting the same expletives with the same people dying.

I hear they have good internet over in Scandinavia.


One day, I'll make this sig cool again.

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Postby Caltarania » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:48 am

Nation Name: The Most Serene Republic of Venice (AKA The Venetian Empire)
National Flag:
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Claims: This Map, Plus: Western Croatia (Dalmatia, Istria County, Karlovac County, Lika-Senj County, Primorje-Gorski Kotar County), Constantinople (And Surrounding areas), Friuli-Venezia Giulia Region, Province of Trieste, West Slovenia, Sicily, Marche Region, Puglia Region, Calabria Region, Basilicata Region, Tuscany, Umbria, Emilia-Romanga Region, Liguria Region, Rest of Italy North of there, Corsica, Sardinia, the Balearic islands, the Libyan coast, Gibraltar, Tangier, Montenegro, the Crimea, the Suez and Alexandria (And Surrounding area). THE LIGHT BLUE IN THE MEDITERRANEAN MAP BASICALLY.
Form of Government: Unitary Parliamentary Constitutional Elective Monarchy
World: First World
Head of State: Doge Mario of House Contarini (Damned Faliero's!), and High Councilor Gustavo Luciano (Basically a PM)
Capital City: Venice
Population: 81 Million
Military Size: 3,000,000
Military Type: The Venetian military is relatively strong, the professional army is well trained and well armed, and is home to modern technology such as the Doge Main Battle Tank, the Contarini Standard Issue Rifle and the 'Most Serene' Fighter/Bomber. The majority of the Venetian military force is pumped into it's Navy, with it's Ground Forces and Air Force sharing an equal amount of funding and force, but less than the Navy. On top of the Official Armed Forces, there is also the Venetian Mercenary Core, which is only called in during times of war, and contains Mercenaries from across the globe.
Naval Strength: The Venetian Navy is amongst the strongest in the world. It has a medium-sized fleet, consisting of mainly battleships, submarines and aircraft carriers. It is very well equipped, however it is recently lacking in numbers.
Economic Strength: The Republic of Venice was literally built upon trade, the large majority of it's people are rich, with little poverty. Those who are poor, though, are able to receive a small, but sufficient, amount of government funding. The rest of the Venetian economy is also booming, with factories, trading posts and businesses popping up across the Empire. In fact, the Republic sometimes expands using these posts, by establishing small trading towns in unoccupied territory.
Land Routes: The Majority of the cities in the nations mainland are connected by a series of roads and railroads. However, because the majority of the nation is separated by seas, there is little need for large roads.
Sea Routes The Republic's ports are well connected by large trade routes and naval routes. Nearly every city has a port, except for ones not near a river or the sea. This is necessary, because the majority of the Republic is separated by the Mediterranean.
History: The Most Serene Republic of Venice is a very ancient nation, founded in 697 AD when a collection of lagoon communities banded together for mutual defence from the Lombards, Huns and other invading peoples as the power of the Western Roman Empire dwindled in northern Italy. As time progressed, the Venetians gradually built their Grand city of Venice. They immediately found themselves at the helm of an empire, and the Doge found himself to be the leader of a vast amount of people. Eventually, Venice expanded to include its current state. The Venetians helped the Crusaders during the Crusades by constructing them ships, the best of the time, and also by sending their own men to fight. Venice has now existed a total of 1316 years, over a millennium. In more recent history, Venice found itself at the heart of a vast and dangerous diplomatic dispute, which would become known as the Venetian Crisis of 1953. The Crisis began in 1952, when a small scale diplomatic dispute began to escalate between the Most Serene Republic of Venice, and [INSERT COMMUNIST NATION HERE]. The dispute began over the Venetian re-militarization of an area disputed by the two nations, however, the dispute grew as both nations gained the aid of more and more allies, until global war looked obvious. The Venetians, realizing that a war would be terrible for their trading profits, eventually demilitarized the area, and the dispute was finished. After that crisis, the Venetians were ever more cautious about their diplomatic and foreign affairs.
RP Example: viewtopic.php?f=31&t=256309

Safety question, what are the three crises that nearly led to war but didn’t?: The Venetian Crisis of 1953, the Cuidad-Mexico Crisis of 1960, and the Nanking-Crisis of 1965
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Postby Vredlandia » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:53 am

I finished my history

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Democratic Socialists

Postby Great Confederacy of Commonwealth States » Thu Aug 15, 2013 11:55 am

Caltarania wrote:
Fortunagen wrote:Just remember, penguins don't make great front line infantry.


Or do they?

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So majestic.
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