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Postby Fatatatutti » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:43 am

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Postby Astholm » Fri Aug 02, 2013 9:46 am

This has never happened, since we've only had one, and she was 50+.
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Postby Alyska » Sat Aug 03, 2013 2:56 pm

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Postby Novus Niciae » Sat Aug 03, 2013 4:59 pm

Should the prime minister become pregnant the deputy prime minister will function as prime minister whilst she is in labor and for 24 hours after the birth to allow her time to recover.
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Postby Haydn » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:22 pm

If there is a ruling Empress on the Imperial Throne (which there currently isn't), and she gets pregnant, she is still the ruler, but when she goes into labour, for the length of the beginning of the labour to when she gets back to the Palace of the Emperor a Lord Protector takes control of diplomatic talks, wars if any etc.
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Postby Three Weasels » Sat Aug 03, 2013 5:59 pm

The Grand Meadow Minister is not required to resign nor reassign her duties. However, if she takes parental leave, the ruling party's Minister of Domestic Affairs will temporarily assume the post for daily mundane tasks. The GMM is recalled if there's a federal or national emergency. Most GMM will return from parental leave after a month.
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Postby Lillitania » Sat Aug 03, 2013 6:31 pm

She appoints a regent, the news runs a story on her ( good or bad ), and after maternity leave she goes back to work.
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Postby Meritocratic States » Sat Aug 03, 2013 7:38 pm

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Because the Meritocratic States has a collective head of state, a female member of the Federal Executive Council can declare her leave of medical absence once the pregnancy is confirmed and the Senate President is required to assume the position of the Councilor. All parties elected in the Senate then chooses the temporary Senate President.

Most female Councilors that took leave of medical absence return after one month of recovery or when the Councilor wishes to return.
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Postby Equalium » Sat Aug 03, 2013 8:15 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:We've never really had a female head of state, at least not one that was pregnant, so we don't really have a law on it...

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Postby Ainin » Sat Aug 03, 2013 9:01 pm

There are no laws regulating such a scenario, but the House of Representatives would most likely impeach the President for "failure to act in official duties" under the Undesirable Deportment Act.
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Postby The Batorys » Sun Aug 04, 2013 12:57 pm

The number of countries that force their female leaders to step down at the start of pregnancy would be seen as quite confusing in the Batory Empire, given that a healthy pregnancy is a bit of a burden and an inconvenience, physically, yes, but not really especially detrimental to one's mental abilities, which are a bit more necessary for leadership (in most cases... obviously to the Decepticons, physical abilities are vital to maintaining leadership as well).

What does the law/constitution say about a female head of state falling pregnant during her term in office/reign?
Absolutely nothing. There is no constitution at the imperial level, and no Empress has ever had a law written that would restrict her own right to rule, for any reason, let alone a matter like pregnancy.

Is she allowed to try for a child while in office?
Empress Vereba had already produced most of her children, most importantly her heir, when she ascended the throne. However, if she had succeeded her mother a few decades earlier, she would not only be allowed to try for a child, she would be expected to, as popping out a baby girl would be vital for ensuring smooth succession.

Is she allowed to remain in office during the pregnancy?
Of course. Why wouldn't she be? Due to morning sickness (the intensity of which, by the way, varies substantially between women and even between pregnancies, with about half of women not suffering from it much if at all)? Do silly barbaric foreign nations remove their leaders from office every time they get the stomach flu? Batory women rarely get such. The physical inconvenience of being pregnant doesn't really impede an Empress from ruling. It isn't as if it requires running a marathon. Additionally, Batory women, eschewing judeo-christian cultural norms, get pregnant all the time, they just rarely keep it. Even on the off chance that an Empress did keep a pregnancy, who is going to "not allow" her to remain in office? She's the Empress.


And what happens when she goes into labour?
Batory women usually don't take long once they go into labor, so it's almost always a short process. During this time, if there is an emergency of some political nature, one of the Empress' Adjuncts will handle it, though of course the Empress will be informed of all decisions made. Part of being Empress is delegating. Her Adjuncts have almost as much power as she does even when she is not otherwise indisposed, and so only the most trustworthy of individuals are appointed to such a position. Often their decision making process will involve the other people she trusts most, her husbands. If she already has an heir who is of sufficient age, the heir will take over for a few days. A couple days after the birth, the Empress will return to her duties.
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Postby Soviet Putinland » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:42 pm

What does the law/constitution say about a female head of state falling pregnant during her term in office/reign?
As covered by the clause"A Premier's first duty is to the people", The law states that should a Premier become pregnant, She may not leave or forsake her duties as leader of the nation.

Is she allowed to try for a child while in office? Yes.
is she allowed to remain in office during the pregnancy? Yes
and what happens when she goes into labour? Another official selected by the Premier will take charge until her return.
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Postby Sevaris » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Her Imperial Majesty has been pregnant several times, and gave birth a few months ago the newest member of the imperial family, His Imperial Highness Prince Justinian. Her Imperial Majesty was said to have resumed her duties of state merely hours after giving birth, as she received the French plenipotentiary for an already scheduled audience.

Per the questions given:

1) There is no clear constitutional principle that would ban the Empress from becoming pregnant. As there had been no reigning Empress since the 9th century prior to Her Imperial Majesty's accession, we would defer to the fact that there was never a prohibition against reigning Emperors fathering children. We may safely assume an Empress is absolutely permitted to give birth while on the throne.

2) Per our legal analysis above, we would suggest that there is no reason she could not become pregnant after her accession. Her Imperial Majesty has given birth to all five of her children while on the throne.

3) Her Imperial Majesty is absolutely permitted to continue her rule. A gravid state by no means deprives the Empress of her rights.

4) When Her Imperial Majesty goes into labour, she goes into labour. For whatever time she is indisposed, her husband assumes the regency on a temporary basis until such time where she is delivered of the child and is comfortable assuming executive authority once more. Additionally, the Grand Logothete continues in her normal duties, consulting with the Emperor where appropriate. Such time, of course, depends on the speed with which the Empress recovers from her birth. In the past few cases, this has been a matter of hours.
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Postby The Serbian Empire » Sun Aug 04, 2013 1:57 pm

We don't have half a clue what happens as the situation has never presented itself given the elected state of the emperors and that all of them have been male thus far since the Serbian Empire was founded. The Empress would be presumed to maintain power however during that situation, but we have no idea if or when it will ever have to be used.
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Postby New Zepuha » Sun Aug 04, 2013 2:30 pm

The Queen would take leave for the pregnancy and her husband would serve as Lord Regent, until she is able to come back to power. If the child was conceived by someone who is not her husband, that man will be executed and the baby will be born and then placed into the military's care.
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Postby Geilinor » Sun Aug 04, 2013 5:59 pm

There are no rules against our head of state or head of government becoming pregnant. The Chancellor can appoint a member of the cabinet as acting Chancellor if and when she chooses to take maternity leave. The position of monarch is mostly ceremonial, so a Queen may not need to take maternity leave.
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Postby Arkiasis » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:05 pm

The Vice President would take the role for a few months until she comes back. And like everyone else she gets 6 months maternity leave, she doesn't have to use it all, but it's there.
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Postby Grossdeutsches Kaiserreich » Sun Aug 04, 2013 7:13 pm

Head of state or head of government? Our head of state is the Emperor.

He is male. No female has ever reigned on the throne. If there are no direct male heirs, the closest male extended relative will be made the heir. If for some reason there are no male heirs in the immediate of extended family(highly improbable), only then would it be possible for a female to be on the throne.

Despite that remote possibility, being that the head of state is in office until death, if a female monarch becomes pregnant, she will remain monarch. Most government duties will continue to be done by the chancellor.

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Certain occupations of government are closed to women, head of government being one of those occupations.
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Postby Whove » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:04 pm

Should the Lord President be a female and she becomes pregnant she is relieved of her office and a Regent takes power until 2 months after the Lord President has delivered. This has never happened as there has never been a female Lord President.
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Postby Diopolis » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:13 pm

A female head of state would be incredibly unlikely, but if it did happen, she would almost be required to have as many children as possible as quickly as possible in order to reestablish the dynasty.
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Postby South East Europe » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:14 pm

If it were to pass that a female head of state were to become pregnant than she would be given paid maternity leave for a period of two months before and two months after birth during which time she would be temporarily replaced by the current head of the Senate or Archbishop of the church.
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Postby TotallyNotEvilLand » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:15 pm

Well, typically the queen would want a child to keep the bloodline going, so... Business as usual.
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Postby Vazdania » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:17 pm

The British Stratocracy wrote:What does the law/constitution say about a female head of state falling pregnant during her term in office/reign?

Is she allowed to try for a child while in office? is she allowed to remain in office during the pregnancy? and what happens when she goes into labour?


The Stratocracy Constitution is very clear on the matter. The head of state is the office of Lord Protector whom is elected every five years, when a female citizen is voted into office the title is changed to Dame Protector.

There are no official laws that prohibit the Dame Protector from becoming pregnant, though it is discouraged as it is seen as impractical. If she does fall pregnant, either on purpose or by accident, and wishes to keep it, nothing changes. She keeps her position and responsibilities for her nine months and no one in government has the right to challenge her ability to govern on the grounds she is with child.

The constitution clearly states that the Dame Protector becomes legally "Incapacitated" the moment her water breaks and she goes into labour. The Prime Senator, the official president of the Stratocratic Senate, then assumes her responsibilities. If the Prime Senator is unable to for whatever reason, the most senior member of the Imperator Council will assume the responsibilities.

Once the Dame Protector gives birth she remains legally Incapacitated for a 30 day period. After which she is free to resume her duties as head of state. She may extend her leave but there is a limit this. If she does not resume office 12 months after her child's/children's birth, she automatically resigns as Dame Protector and an election is held.

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During this situation, usually the Queen would be given time off, The Speaker of the Hall of Lords would take on many of the Queen's responsibilities. When she goes into labor she is taken to the hospital immediately.
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Postby Damanucus » Sun Aug 04, 2013 8:20 pm

Hmmm, interesting one, as we only just got a female head of state about four months ago. (Yes, Empress Passenly Barr-Dayg is female.)

The choice is actually a pretty difficult one for her, seeing as she is not only the head of state, but also the leader of the government (as is the case with all Emperors and Empresses of Damanucus and her territories): she can either continue in her position, and balance politics and childcare, or abdicate. It isn't much of a choice, but, since we are a monarchy, she has to see out her full term.

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