I already use the M113. It's in my post above with the rest of my vehicles listed. The M113 Bushmaster APC. So just convert some of the to launch anti-tank missiles?
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by Consolidate Nations Alliance » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:48 am
by Purpelia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:49 am
Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Bradley's already fitted with TOW or at least provision, and I'm pretty sure Stryker has provision already.
by Consolidate Nations Alliance » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:53 am
Purpelia wrote:Consolidate Nations Alliance wrote:
I already use the M113. It's in my post above with the rest of my vehicles listed. The M113 Bushmaster APC. So just convert some of the to launch anti-tank missiles?
Yes. If you already have them it would be cheap and easy. And nothing quite beats a rocket-gavin.Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Bradley's already fitted with TOW or at least provision, and I'm pretty sure Stryker has provision already.
Speaking of that I have been contemplating if I could adapt a Spike to be barrel fired from a BMP-3. From what I understand the diffrent variants also have different diameters. But I can't find any solid data on it or if I could shrink one down to 100mm.
by Purpelia » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:57 am
Consolidate Nations Alliance wrote:Fair enough. So get the Strykers or just purpose some of my M113s to launch AT missiles, put my modified K2s back into my MBT battalion.
Any other advice on the rest of my army?
by Consolidate Nations Alliance » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:01 am
Purpelia wrote:Consolidate Nations Alliance wrote:Fair enough. So get the Strykers or just purpose some of my M113s to launch AT missiles, put my modified K2s back into my MBT battalion.
Any other advice on the rest of my army?
Don't use multiple types of tanks in the same unit. It complicates logistics.
by The United Remnants of America » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:32 am
Purpelia wrote:The United Remnants of America wrote:Completely unrelated quesiton. I was recently told that it's highly frowned upon on the trading forums if a nation sells real-world stylized items. Like if a nation had a storefront with SCAR rifles, SAWS, etc and had F-15s, Bradleys and Abrams etc, for sell or a really close equivalent of said items. Is this a fact.
Yes. As a rule on NS anyone can manufacture anything that exists IRL. All modern tech is basically open source to us. So if you were to sell F-15s and SCARs you would in essence be conning people into buying stuff they already can get for free.
by The United Remnants of America » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:40 am
by Crookfur » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:43 am
Consolidate Nations Alliance wrote:So, basically I am thinking I might need a new tank to fill the slot of tank destroyer in my armoured and infantry support battalion. Right now I have several modified K-2 Black Panthers acting as tank destroyers, but I'm wondering if that's viable, or if I should find something else to use as a tank destroyer, or just scrap that concept all together.
I know I posted up my entire military in the last one, but I'll just do my army this time, and separate them into their battalions. Any tips/suggestions about my army in general will be good.
Sword Battalion (Main Battle Tanks)
30 x K-2 Black Panther MBTs
Shield Battalion (Armoured and infantry support division)
30 x K-2-TD Black Panther Tak Destroyers
430 x Bushmaster M113 APCs (130 in reserves and 50 re-purposed to be converted into Command, Control and Communication (CCC) APCs)
840 x Bushmaster PMVs
30 x Coyote TSVs
Archer Battalion (Artillery and anti-air division)
110 x L118/L119 105 mm Hamel Guns
120 x M2A2 105 mm Howitzer
35 x M198 155 mm Howitzer
35 x M777A2 155 mm Howitzer
35 x RBS-70 surface to air missile systems
Note: I have no troop numbers as I'm note sure how much of my 59,631 total personnel would go to each squad and how much would be left for riflemen/foot soldiers
by Elan Valleys » Sat Jul 20, 2013 6:53 am
by Consolidate Nations Alliance » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:15 am
Crookfur wrote:Consolidate Nations Alliance wrote:So, basically I am thinking I might need a new tank to fill the slot of tank destroyer in my armoured and infantry support battalion. Right now I have several modified K-2 Black Panthers acting as tank destroyers, but I'm wondering if that's viable, or if I should find something else to use as a tank destroyer, or just scrap that concept all together.
I know I posted up my entire military in the last one, but I'll just do my army this time, and separate them into their battalions. Any tips/suggestions about my army in general will be good.
Sword Battalion (Main Battle Tanks)
30 x K-2 Black Panther MBTs
Shield Battalion (Armoured and infantry support division)
30 x K-2-TD Black Panther Tak Destroyers
430 x Bushmaster M113 APCs (130 in reserves and 50 re-purposed to be converted into Command, Control and Communication (CCC) APCs)
840 x Bushmaster PMVs
30 x Coyote TSVs
Archer Battalion (Artillery and anti-air division)
110 x L118/L119 105 mm Hamel Guns
120 x M2A2 105 mm Howitzer
35 x M198 155 mm Howitzer
35 x M777A2 155 mm Howitzer
35 x RBS-70 surface to air missile systems
Note: I have no troop numbers as I'm note sure how much of my 59,631 total personnel would go to each squad and how much would be left for riflemen/foot soldiers
You seem to have crammed a lot of vehicles into you battalions and others are small.
A typical tank/armoured battalion would have in the region of 44 to 58 MBts supported by some light cavalry/ recce vehciles. As it stands I would just have a single armoured battlaion/regiment that has all your K2s (with none of them modified)
For the infantry you could with your current vehciles feild 2 mechanised/armoured infantry battalions in your M113s plus another 4 or 5 in the bushmasters with the Coyotes likely beign assigned as the recce element of the M113 mounted battalions.
Artillery wise it looks like you can feild a regiment of 32x 155mm guns to support each M113 battalion plus a regiment of 105mm guns to support each bushmaster battalion. This is a LOT of artillery msot ifnatry units have a single artillery regiment to cover a whole brigade (3-4 infantry battalions).
by British Albionoria » Sat Jul 20, 2013 7:59 am
by The United Remnants of America » Sat Jul 20, 2013 8:55 am
British Albionoria wrote:While I consider myself to be knowledgeable in air force and naval matters the same cannot be said for the army in my case. Therefore I wish to recruit yourselves in aiding myself in the construction of my armed forces land component.
In regards to my nations background it is a late eighties NATO nation which considers its commitment to a European overseas force as its primary concern. MONEY FOR DEFENSE IN MY NATION IS FINITE
So my question remains, does this make sense and if it doesn't what could be done to improve it? Thank you in advance.
by British Albionoria » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:12 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:British Albionoria wrote:While I consider myself to be knowledgeable in air force and naval matters the same cannot be said for the army in my case. Therefore I wish to recruit yourselves in aiding myself in the construction of my armed forces land component.
In regards to my nations background it is a late eighties NATO nation which considers its commitment to a European overseas force as its primary concern. MONEY FOR DEFENSE IN MY NATION IS FINITE
So my question remains, does this make sense and if it doesn't what could be done to improve it? Thank you in advance.
-Usually, ranks aren't that cemented in, but it's fine if you consider tha a rough outline. Sometimes a PFC(Private, First Class) can be a Fire and Maneuver Team leader and not a Corporal. But you know, it's fluid.
- If you're planning on those TOWs to be footmobile and not mounted, then I'd move them down to company level. Same with the Javs.
- The Bradley IFVs were around in the 80's. They were basically an upgrade of the M113. They'd have about the same versatility you'd want, just with a 20-year upgrade on armor and tech.
-If I were you, I'd replace the UAV in your aicraft with a gunship. You already have a recon ship, so the UAV is un-needed for what you're planning here. Since you seem Western in tech, use a Black Hawk or SuperCobra. I prefer the Black Hawks.
That's it at first glance. Sorry if I seem to critical. I don't know exactly what your plans were, but my advice is if you're planning on going into war with this brigade style.
by The United Remnants of America » Sat Jul 20, 2013 9:21 am
British Albionoria wrote:
No worries, all of it is very useful advice;
I should have labeled the ranks as a rough outline. If a platoon commander is a lieutenant the whole system will not fall apart. Because Corporal in my armed forces if given after three years of service it is kind of like PFC or Lance Corporal in my Army which is why they are given such a small command.
TOWs would be mounted for the most part on either a M151 or Iltis so I would keep them at the Battalion level however I agree with moving the Javelins down the chain.
I would prefer the Black Hawk too for versatility reasons, it could replace the Twin Hueys which at this point will be beginning to show their age.
by Radictistan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:37 am
Purpelia wrote:Samozaryadnyastan wrote:Bradley's already fitted with TOW or at least provision, and I'm pretty sure Stryker has provision already.
Speaking of that I have been contemplating if I could adapt a Spike to be barrel fired from a BMP-3. From what I understand the diffrent variants also have different diameters. But I can't find any solid data on it or if I could shrink one down to 100mm. I basically want a fire and forget replacement for the 9M117.
by British Albionoria » Sat Jul 20, 2013 10:43 am
The United Remnants of America wrote:British Albionoria wrote:
No worries, all of it is very useful advice;
I should have labeled the ranks as a rough outline. If a platoon commander is a lieutenant the whole system will not fall apart. Because Corporal in my armed forces if given after three years of service it is kind of like PFC or Lance Corporal in my Army which is why they are given such a small command.
TOWs would be mounted for the most part on either a M151 or Iltis so I would keep them at the Battalion level however I agree with moving the Javelins down the chain.
I would prefer the Black Hawk too for versatility reasons, it could replace the Twin Hueys which at this point will be beginning to show their age.
-Yes, you could use UH-60's for attack and utility, so they could replace the Hueys. SuperCobras kind of suck in comparison.
- At leats in my military, and I know in American military, TOWs are usually mounted on an APC or IFV. You know, something that's for mechanized infantry. Putting them on the Iltis would look odd, but the MUTT I guess would be do-able.
- Eh, ranks are different in every country and military, so it's hard to judge them, really.
I like this, it's really making me think, since my country is technologically and chronologically about 40-50 years ahead of you. It's difficult to pull back the tech and think in a different gear.
by Ea90 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:50 pm
by Spirit of Hope » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:58 pm
Ea90 wrote:(Image)
Standard Yanintovian LBV; it can hold 6 grenades, 4 20-round 6.5x55 mags, 8 10-round 6.5x55 stripper clips, 3L of water, an OKC-3S ripoff, enough food to last 24 hours, an entrenching tool, a radio, a first aid kit, a torch, a multitool, 6 water purification tablets, a hygiene kit, binoculars, a sleeping bag and a compass.
Including the uniform, boots and gloves, that comes to 22.915kg.
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by Samozaryadnyastan » Sat Jul 20, 2013 3:59 pm
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by Ea90 » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:00 pm
Spirit of Hope wrote:Only 4 20 round magazines? That seams rather low (100 rounds ready), most people push for around 6 30 round magazines (180 rounds ready).
Spirit of Hope wrote:Also 6 grenades sounds rather high, I would stick to 1-3 grenades.
by Spirit of Hope » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:04 pm
Ea90 wrote:Spirit of Hope wrote:Only 4 20 round magazines? That seams rather low (100 rounds ready), most people push for around 6 30 round magazines (180 rounds ready).
Yeah I realise the ammo is low, but I didn't want the weight to saw.Spirit of Hope wrote:Also 6 grenades sounds rather high, I would stick to 1-3 grenades.
I was thinking 2 offensive, 2 defensive, 1 smoke and 1 WP.
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by Hawkwick » Sat Jul 20, 2013 4:55 pm
by Questers » Sat Jul 20, 2013 5:01 pm
In that case no. Possibly if you rebuilt them exactly to standard, but it still isn't a good idea.Hawkwick wrote:Okay, so the Hawkwickan Army recently found a WWII-era Nazi Stockpile
Additionally, the army also found
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