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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:32 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ainin wrote:A battle of facts, not will.

I made affirmations. You denied them. I proved them.

You lose.

No DO not accept your facts.

I win.

You win... because you oppose facts?

Sure, whatevah. :roll:
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Ziegenhain
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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:33 am

CTALNH wrote:
Ainin wrote:A battle of facts, not will.

I made affirmations. You denied them. I proved them.

You lose.

No DO not accept your facts.

I win.

So you admit that you don't believe in facts?

You lose.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:35 am

Unicario wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Hey personally I blame Churchill for not letting Stalin and Roosevelt kill of the Germans completely.

By encouraging the genocide of all Germans, you are no better than the Nazis. besides, Stalin is fascist.

I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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CTALNH
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:36 am

Ainin wrote:
CTALNH wrote:No DO not accept your facts.

I win.

You win... because you oppose facts?

Sure, whatevah. :roll:

Actually no I just deny your facts.

You know denial stage?
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:37 am

CTALNH wrote:
Unicario wrote:By encouraging the genocide of all Germans, you are no better than the Nazis. besides, Stalin is fascist.

I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.

Well while i think the germans deserved far worse then they got, genocide is going a little too far. After all, russia suffered 25 million deaths, a full genocide would extract 80 million germans. Not a fair trade off
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:39 am

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.

Well while i think the germans deserved far worse then they got, genocide is going a little too far. After all, russia suffered 25 million deaths, a full genocide would extract 80 million germans. Not a fair trade off

Castration they would not kill the Germans

Just stop them from making more people.

Some kids of great Nazi sympathizers did it.
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:40 am

CTALNH wrote:
Unicario wrote:By encouraging the genocide of all Germans, you are no better than the Nazis. besides, Stalin is fascist.

I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.

"kill of the Germans completely."
That's not castration, that's genocide. Although you could say castration is also a form of genocide.

And Stalin a Marxist-Leninist? Sure, if you mean the creation of a totalitarian police state, the suppression of all forms of civil and political freedom, the absolute state ownership of the economy, a massive cult of personality, a return to Tsarist style class systems, centralizing all power to him, and also having his own genocides against ethnic groups in the USSR. Yep, what a wonderful world he was building.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:41 am

CTALNH wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Well while i think the germans deserved far worse then they got, genocide is going a little too far. After all, russia suffered 25 million deaths, a full genocide would extract 80 million germans. Not a fair trade off

Castration they would not kill the Germans

Just stop them from making more people.

Some kids of great Nazi sympathizers did it.

Il ignore the moral argument for a minute cause I see right now its not going to make a difference.

As I recall, the Nazis rarely castrated anyone in the USSR, so it seems like unfair retribution right? Execute all the nazis, fine. Castrate the general population? Meh, without the germany of today europe would hvae gone bankrupt 10 years ago
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Kouralia
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Postby Kouralia » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:42 am

Oi, oi: knock dis sheet orf.
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Postby CTALNH » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:42 am

Byzantium Imperial wrote:
CTALNH wrote:Castration they would not kill the Germans

Just stop them from making more people.

Some kids of great Nazi sympathizers did it.

Il ignore the moral argument for a minute cause I see right now its not going to make a difference.

As I recall, the Nazis rarely castrated anyone in the USSR, so it seems like unfair retribution right? Execute all the nazis, fine. Castrate the general population? Meh, without the germany of today europe would hvae gone bankrupt 10 years ago

Oh please and we would be in the verge of a new economic crisis
"This guy is a State socialist, which doesn't so much mean mass murder and totalitarianism as it means trying to have a strong state to lead the way out of poverty and towards a bright future. Strict state control of the economy is necessary to make the great leap forward into that brighter future, and all elements of society must be sure to contribute or else."
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Postby Evraim » Sun Jul 14, 2013 5:43 pm

Kouralia wrote:Oi, oi: knock dis sheet orf.

Indeed.

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Postby The Zeonic States » Sun Jul 14, 2013 6:30 pm

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I found it more surprising that a Taoist would even want to be in politics. :p


Politics is a realm of Ego true and far beyond a measure of humility but it is also needed for governence and governence ensures that the second in my mind the most important tenant of the Tao is honored.

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Postby Page » Sun Jul 14, 2013 7:18 pm

CTALNH wrote:
Unicario wrote:By encouraging the genocide of all Germans, you are no better than the Nazis. besides, Stalin is fascist.

I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.


Despite you being a Stalinist, I've always attempted to take you at least semi-seriously, but I think you've absolutely lost all credibility here for good.
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Postby Beta Test » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:09 pm

When will this be updated?
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Evraim
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Postby Evraim » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:19 pm

CTALNH wrote:I am not encouraging their genocide I encouraging mass castration


That is genocide. Would you like to be forcefully sterilized? If not, don't force it on other people.

CTALNH wrote:so you wouldn't be able to start WW3....


Not likely to happen.

CTALNH wrote:Stalin is a fascist bla bla bla

Stalin is not a communist bla bla bla

Oh piss off Stalin was a a marxist leninist he followed Lenins instructions for building a economy word for word.


Which does not make him a good man or a good ruler. He severely damaged the Red Army, threatened peaceful neighboring countries, terrorized the general population, made an alliance with the Nazi government thus enabling them to focus their energies along other fronts with impunity, and murdered hundreds of thousands of political dissidents, ethnic and religious minorities, and members of other groups he disliked. He was hardly better than Hitler - and, as though I need to say it, Hitler was not the epitome of goodness and love and competence. I won't even start on Lenin... In short, totalitarian dictators ARE NOT people we should idolize or seek to emulate.

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Postby Ziegenhain » Sun Jul 14, 2013 9:31 pm

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Raise in a wealthy Leishaagen family, Illinia was sent to the finest private schools money could by. She excelled academically, placing in the top 10 among her class, and also participated in Debate clubs and other activities. After graduation from high school she attended the most prestigious private college in Leishaagen. There she gained a reputation of hosting and attending large and lavish parties. After completing her studies, she returned to her family estate where she then developed an interest in politics. She first joined up with the Libertarian Freedom Party, but left due to her pro-Monarchist views and instead joined up with the Classical Monarchist Party. Illinia decided to run for the Senator seat in her constituency and won.

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Postby Free South Califas » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:27 am

Although you could argue...

I don't think you have to, it must count as ethnic cleansing. The advocacy of which is a war crime, actually. I forget whether ILA signs us on to that accord, but Senate Ethics Act doesn't apply in this thread, so CTALNH is fair game for international prosecution otherwise.
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Postby Free South Califas » Mon Jul 15, 2013 2:27 am

Ainin wrote:
CTALNH wrote:wHY????????????????????????????????????????
Unified Germany has a great economy, great civil rights, great political freedoms, great social aid, a great HDI, etc. East Germany just had cool scarves.

Well, it's not nothing.

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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:42 am

CTALNH wrote:I encouraging mass castration.

Hate speech is against the law, senator.
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Postby Kouralia » Mon Jul 15, 2013 6:55 am

Ainin wrote:
CTALNH wrote:I encouraging mass castration.

Hate speech is against the law, senator.

And I still do not give a toss.

See, the bit where I said 'knock it off'? That means... stfu.

ALL OF YOU
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Postby The IASM » Mon Jul 15, 2013 7:11 am

Kouralia wrote:
Ainin wrote:Hate speech is against the law, senator.

And I still do not give a toss.

See, the bit where I said 'knock it off'? That means... stfu.

ALL OF YOU

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Shouty Men wrote:
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