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Jozef van Oostvoorne
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Tue Jul 09, 2013 12:59 am

Yea to all, except for FALLA.
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Postby Kamchastkia » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:01 am

Jozef van Oostvoorne wrote:Yea to all, except for FALLA.

Abstain or Nay to FALLA? The vote counters are going to ask as the vote is unclear :/.

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Postby Beta Test » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:03 am

I would like to change my aye vote for the SSA to an ABSTAIN
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Postby Jozef van Oostvoorne » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:08 am

Kamchastkia wrote:
Jozef van Oostvoorne wrote:Yea to all, except for FALLA.

Abstain or Nay to FALLA? The vote counters are going to ask as the vote is unclear :/.


Oh, right. Nay.
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Postby Phing Phong » Tue Jul 09, 2013 3:59 am

I wish to register a bloc vote in favour of all the bills in the omnibus currently at vote.
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Postby Fulflood » Tue Jul 09, 2013 4:49 am

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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:55 am

Senatorial Procedures Omnibus | Authors: Polvia, Ainin, Great Nepal, Wolfmanne, Yanalia, New Waterford, Othelos, Britanno

Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior Act
For: 31
Against: 17
Abstain: 10


First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act
For: 31
Against: 22
Abstain: 5


Senatorial Supremacy Act
For: 21
Against: 22
Abstain: 15


First Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 45
Against: 8
Abstain: 5


Second Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 50
Against: 6
Abstain: 2


Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act
For: 38
Against: 15
Abstain: 6


Second Constitution of the Senate
For: 46
Against: 7
Abstain: 6


Prime Minister and President's Questions Act
For: 51
Against: 5
Abstain: 2
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Postby TaQud » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:08 am

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Postby Osea 767 » Tue Jul 09, 2013 10:33 am

Nay to both the SGSPEA and the SSA. Aye to the rest.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:50 am

Senatorial Procedures Omnibus | Authors: Polvia, Ainin, Great Nepal, Wolfmanne, Yanalia, New Waterford, Othelos, Britanno

Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior Act
For: 33
Against: 17
Abstain: 10


First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act
For: 32
Against: 23
Abstain: 5


Senatorial Supremacy Act
For: 21
Against: 24
Abstain: 15


First Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 47
Against: 8
Abstain: 5


Second Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 52
Against: 6
Abstain: 2


Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act
For: 39
Against: 16
Abstain: 6


Second Constitution of the Senate
For: 48
Against: 7
Abstain: 6


Prime Minister and President's Questions Act
For: 53
Against: 5
Abstain: 2
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Postby Free South Califas » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:03 pm

Changing my vote on SGSPEA from abstain to nay, in accordance with the One Line (voluntary) Whip I have set out for the Communist Party.
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Postby Venaleria » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:06 pm

Senatorial Procedures Omnibus | Authors: Polvia, Ainin, Great Nepal, Wolfmanne, Yanalia, New Waterford, Othelos, Britanno

Proper Procedure and Unacceptable Behavior Act
For: 33
Against: 17
Abstain: 10


First Amendment to the Limiting Legislation Act
For: 32
Against: 23
Abstain: 5


Senatorial Supremacy Act
For: 21
Against: 24
Abstain: 15


First Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 47
Against: 8
Abstain: 5


Second Amendment to the Republican Executive Act
For: 52
Against: 6
Abstain: 2


Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act
For: 39
Against: 17
Abstain: 5


Second Constitution of the Senate
For: 48
Against: 7
Abstain: 6


Prime Minister and President's Questions Act
For: 53
Against: 5
Abstain: 2
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Postby Wolfmanne » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:07 pm

Changing my vote on the Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act to abstain due to the controversy associated with it.
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:07 pm

How long until voting ends?
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Postby Rumostan » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:07 pm

How long until voting ends?
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Postby Yanalia » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:12 pm

Rumostan wrote:How long until voting ends?


7/9 at 19:29 PM PDT.
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Postby Kalmath » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:19 pm

The Blakewell Act
Author: Kalmath
Urgency: Urgent
Sponsors: Potenco, Britanno, Kourilia, Angleter, Wolfmanne, Bleckonia



DECLARING that Organized Crime in Aurentina has reached unprecedented levels.

SHOCKED at the blatant murder of Mr. Blakewell.

RECOMMENDS these measures to curb and control Criminal Enterprises.

§ I - Scope

1. (A) Any person part of a Criminal Enterprise who has committed any two of the crimes in (§ II -2- A) within a eleven year period, from passing of the bill onward, may be charged with racketeering. Any person(s) found guilty of Racketeering may be charged with a felony and will forfeit all ill-gotten gains. (B) Those found guilty of Racketeering may be subject to civil suits by those who have been harmed by the convicted.

2. (A) If the Commonwealth Prosecution Service chooses to indict a person on racketeering charges the defendants assets can be temporarily frozen until the either he is found innocent of racketeering or the racketeering charge is dropped.

3. (A) If one member of a criminal enterprise is indicted on racketeering charges under this act, the Commonwealth Prosecution Service may also indict all members of said criminal enterprise on said charges. (B) If found guilty all indicted shall be convicted of racketeering.

4. (A) The Commonwealth Prosecution Service may indict a person as the head of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, and therefore, if convicted of racketeering face up to life in prison without the possibility of parole, a fine of at least 2 million of the accepted currency, seizure of ALL assets, and a felony charge.

§ II - Criminal Organizations and Crimes

1. (A) Criminal Enterprise: is a group of individuals with an identified hierarchy, or comparable structure, engaged in criminal activity.

2. (A) Murder, protection, kidnapping, extortion, robbery, arson, bribery, possession of stolen property, fraud, identity theft, theft, counterfeiting, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, slavery, money laundering, blackmail, smuggling, assisting/aiding/embedding illegal aliens, fraud, and acts of terrorism.

3. (A) Head of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise: an organizer, manager, or supervisor of the continuing operation and have obtained substantial income or resources from any of the crimes found it (§ II -2- A).

Hereby passes the Blakewell Act.


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Postby Finium » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:45 pm

Kalmath wrote:
The Blakewell Act
Author: Kalmath
Urgency: Urgent
Sponsors: Potenco, Britanno, Kourilia, Angleter, Wolfmanne, Bleckonia



DECLARING that Organized Crime in Aurentina has reached unprecedented levels.

SHOCKED at the blatant murder of Mr. Blakewell.

RECOMMENDS these measures to curb and control Criminal Enterprises.

§ I - Scope

1. (A) Any person part of a Criminal Enterprise who has committed any two of the crimes in (§ II -2- A) within a eleven year period may be charged with racketeering. Any person(s) found guilty of Racketeering may be charged with a felony and will forfeit all ill-gotten gains. (B) Those found guilty of Racketeering may be subject to civil suits by those who have been harmed by the convicted.

2. (A) If the Commonwealth Prosecution Service chooses to indict a person on racketeering charges the defendants assets can be temporarily frozen until the either he is found innocent of racketeering or the racketeering charge is dropped.

3. (A) If one member of a criminal enterprise is indicted on racketeering charges under this act, the Commonwealth Prosecution Service may also indict all members of said criminal enterprise on said charges. (B) If found guilty all indicted shall be convicted of racketeering.

4. (A) The Commonwealth Prosecution Service may indict a person as the head of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise, and therefore, if convicted of racketeering face up to life in prison without the possibility of parole, a fine of at least 2 million NSD, seizure of ALL assets, and a felony charge.

§ II - Criminal Organizations and Crimes

1. (A) Criminal Enterprise: is a group of individuals with an identified hierarchy, or comparable structure, engaged in criminal activity.

2. (A) Murder, protection, kidnapping, extortion, robbery (of any means), arson, bribery, possession of stolen property, fraud, identity theft, theft, counterfeiting, embezzlement, obstruction of justice, slavery, money laundering, blackmail, smuggling, assisting/aiding/embedding illegal aliens, securities fraud, insurance fraud, and acts of terrorism.

3. (A) Head of a Continuing Criminal Enterprise: an organizer, manager, or supervisor of the continuing operation and have obtained substantial income or resources from any of the crimes found it (§ II -2- A).

Hereby passes the Blakewell Act.


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Postby Ainin » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:46 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:Changing my vote on the Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act to abstain due to the controversy associated with it.

From what initially?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:48 pm

Ainin wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Changing my vote on the Senatorial Grammar, Spelling and Punctuation Enforcement Act to abstain due to the controversy associated with it.

From what initially?

From for.
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Postby Free South Califas » Tue Jul 09, 2013 1:50 pm

It's currently July 9, 1:49 PM here in PDT. ETA: Just over five and a half hours to go.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:21 pm

Someone will have to tell me what the problem with ssa is.
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Postby Maklohi Vai » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:34 pm

Byzantium Imperial wrote:Someone will have to tell me what the problem with ssa is.

Ok:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Both as an admin and as a senator, I would urge senators to further look into the Senatorial Supremacy Act when compared to the First Amendment to the REA. As the latter grants the president a veto, this means there is a check on the senate. However, the SSA proclaims in section b), "no national or international person or body has nor shall have right to override or set aside the legislation passed by the senate with sole exception of senate itself." A veto is an override.

These bills therefore contradict each other and never should have been placed in the same omnibus in the first place, although those who supported the combining can only be faulted for not thoroughly reading the bills. If both of these bills pass, then the admins will have to examine the situation, which may lead to both bills being taken out of queue, their voting nullified, and essentially starting the chamber process over. Nobody want thats to happen. Therefore, I urge you to ABSTAIN on either the SSA or the REA amendment, but please do not vote in favor of both.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Tue Jul 09, 2013 2:51 pm

Maklohi Vai wrote:
Byzantium Imperial wrote:Someone will have to tell me what the problem with ssa is.

Ok:
Maklohi Vai wrote:Both as an admin and as a senator, I would urge senators to further look into the Senatorial Supremacy Act when compared to the First Amendment to the REA. As the latter grants the president a veto, this means there is a check on the senate. However, the SSA proclaims in section b), "no national or international person or body has nor shall have right to override or set aside the legislation passed by the senate with sole exception of senate itself." A veto is an override.

These bills therefore contradict each other and never should have been placed in the same omnibus in the first place, although those who supported the combining can only be faulted for not thoroughly reading the bills. If both of these bills pass, then the admins will have to examine the situation, which may lead to both bills being taken out of queue, their voting nullified, and essentially starting the chamber process over. Nobody want thats to happen. Therefore, I urge you to ABSTAIN on either the SSA or the REA amendment, but please do not vote in favor of both.

Alright then il revise my vote. I dont like being overridden by a sitting president, but i admit its a necessary power for any decently powerful executive branch.

I vote AYE on all bills except:

Senate Supremacy act, and the Senate grammer and spelling bill, which i vote NAY
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