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Official Statement from The Pacific on Current Events

Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:12 am

Many questions have been asked of the NPO since the banning of former Senator Gaspo. The NPO now intends to answer those questions in as much detail as it feels is reasonable to make public.



During the past several months, Gaspo displayed a strong unwillingness to share important information with fellow Senators, showed no intention of aiding other Senators with their work or listening to their input on his own activity, and obsessed over defunct pet projects such as SovCon. Gaspo, through taking advantage of TP's situation at the time and through freezing other Senators out of NPO affairs, managed to hijack much of TP's politics during the months of February, March, April, and May. With the admission of new Senators in May, Gaspo's supremacy was strongly challenged and he responded viciously and petulantly, attempting to shout down his peers and refusing to accept that other members of the NPO Senate should have any say over what he chose to do with the NPO forums or while representing TP abroad. His unwillingness to work with his equals and decision to regard them as dim-witted peons would have ultimately resulted in his removal from the Senate, though a Senator was recently provided with logs that caused us to come together swiftly and have him stripped of his powers in the forum and permanently removed from the government and the region.



It recently came to the Senate's attention that former Senator of Administration Gaspo had made plans with Nevadar of Gatesville approximately six months ago to take over the New Pacific Order and by extension all of The Pacific and that his recent actions supported the suspicion that he still intended to carry through with these plans. He did not deny the logs but claimed that he made the traitorous statements to placate said foreign entity; ironic, considering his position on "appeasement." This appeal was ignored as any such bold statements made to such mercurial people should have been reported to the rest of the Senate for the sake of transparency; we can only assume that his plans were serious and that his recent actions were made in an attempt to see them through.



The logs of this traitorous conversation were made known by Nevadar herself to Senator Karpathos of the New Pacific Order. Evidently she had come to realize, particularly since the emergence of an active Senate with a heavy hand and strong will which was contesting Gaspo's control, that Gaspo was no longer of use to her and to Gatesville's inner circle and chose to side rather with the stronger party. She won no favor with them by doing this.



Ex-Senator Gaspo has been punished with permanent banishment from The NPO and from The Pacific. Any who fraternize with this enemy will likewise be deemed enemies of the NPO.


Taking in to consideration the actions of Gatesville mentioned above and the current situation in Osiris, The Pacific as a whole condemns the repeated attempts of the subversion of a sovereign region by Gatesville. The Pacific stands in solidarity with our GCR brothers in Osiris and will take the necessary actions to combat the threat of userite exploitation in GCRs.

Signed,

The Senate of the Pacific

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Postby A mean old man » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:14 am

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Postby Feux » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:17 am

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Postby Darkesia » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:28 am

It makes me a little sad to see two regions with such long standing history of being friends, now estranged. I hope relations are repaired soon.
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Postby The Dourian Embassy » Wed Jul 03, 2013 10:46 am

That is not how it happened and you know it.

Statement noted.
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Postby the Imperial Crown » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:27 am

The Government of Osiris thanks Senator Karpathos, The New Pacific Order and The Pacific for their support in this dangerous time. Your support will not be forgotten, and we hope that one day Osiris can show its gratitude to you for it.

It is sad to hear about Senator Gaspo, sometimes, those who are disloyal after often the most unlikely characters, however I firmly agree with the permanent banishment: the only fitting punishment for a traitor.
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Postby Corporation de Apple » Wed Jul 03, 2013 11:33 am

The Dourian Embassy wrote:That is not how it happened and you know it.

Statement noted.

So, is Gates stepping down in favor of you, "Douria"?
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Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:04 pm

the Imperial Crown wrote:The Government of Osiris thanks Senator Karpathos, The New Pacific Order and The Pacific for their support in this dangerous time. Your support will not be forgotten, and we hope that one day Osiris can show its gratitude to you for it.

It is sad to hear about Senator Gaspo, sometimes, those who are disloyal after often the most unlikely characters, however I firmly agree with the permanent banishment: the only fitting punishment for a traitor.


Bold mine. It is a sad fact of NS it seems. The Pacific welcomes the opportunity to rebuild relations with Osiris.
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Postby The North Polish Union » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:08 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:That is not how it happened and you know it.

Statement noted.

Welcome back JAL. We missed you. :hug: :p
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Postby the Imperial Crown » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:30 pm

Karpathos wrote:
the Imperial Crown wrote:The Government of Osiris thanks Senator Karpathos, The New Pacific Order and The Pacific for their support in this dangerous time. Your support will not be forgotten, and we hope that one day Osiris can show its gratitude to you for it.

It is sad to hear about Senator Gaspo, sometimes, those who are disloyal after often the most unlikely characters, however I firmly agree with the permanent banishment: the only fitting punishment for a traitor.


Bold mine. It is a sad fact of NS it seems. The Pacific welcomes the opportunity to rebuild relations with Osiris.


As does Osiris. Although I'd wish that we had a happier backdrop for it, we can't pick and choose.

However, the fact remains that Osiris remains extremely grateful for your support in this time.
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Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:39 pm

The North Polish Union wrote:
The Dourian Embassy wrote:That is not how it happened and you know it.

Statement noted.

Welcome back JAL. We missed you. :hug: :p



I believe that was Nev posting this particular comment. As to her comment, the statement posted is accurate enough without going in the specifics of who-gave-who-what-under-what pretenses. namean?
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Postby Kyrkberg » Wed Jul 03, 2013 12:40 pm

I think the person was thrown off by the Avatar.

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Postby A mean old man » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:07 pm

The Dourian Embassy wrote:That is not how it happened and you know it.

Statement noted.


...as if your word is worth half a dead rat's anus. I've been working for years to make the truth heard, particularly when it concerns treacherous individuals. What have you been working at? Petty coups, mainly. I'd tell you to get off my back but you're not even close to being on it.

EDIT: that statement applies to both Nev and JAL, conveniently.
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Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 3:09 pm

I'd like to thank Nev, for helping out her buddies.
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Postby Gates the god » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:33 pm

I sad day In NS History there was a time when the relationship between Pacifica and Gateseville was sealed in stone and written in blood. I'm sure my old friends Franco, Ivan, Black Adder, The cow with guns, and others will be very disappointed by this betrayal.

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Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:50 pm

I doubt Black adder would be shocked at Nev's intentions for TP. Let's not be silly now.
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Postby Todd McCloud » Wed Jul 03, 2013 8:53 pm

Thank you for the explanation
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Postby Gates the god » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:13 pm

You would be a disgrace to the original regime and you know it K.

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Postby Southern Bellz » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:34 pm

Very interesting development. I wish the NPO showed half of the sensitivity towards TSP's coup.

Because not only did The Pacific not support TSP as Milograd piled on outside RPers. But you welcomed him with open arms and PROMOTED him to head of foreign affairs, and then sent Milograd be the TP representative to The South Pacific. Then Gaspo posted a long winded speech saying that TSP has no right to be mad because both of the Milograds are different (even though it was the same nation). It was one of the most callous acts of disrespect I have faced in my years working with The Pacific.

Were those string of ridiculous events Gaspo's doing, or does The Pacific stand by them? I wish to see TSP/TP relations repaired, especially when we can be united to help Osiris, but they cannot be repaired while Milograd is harbored in TP unpunished. We punished one of our own when they made a half ass coup attempt on TP. What Milo did was much more serious.
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Postby Karpathos » Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:48 pm

Gates the god wrote:You would be a disgrace to the original regime and you know it K.



As a matter of fact, I don't. From the very first second that GV brought RL issues as a cause to destabilize the Pacific, all the respect and fraternity flew out the window. I also find it interesting that you bring up my mentors when Nev singled them ALL out as people to be given PNG status in the Pacific. Gatesville once stood for regional soveregnty, but I suppose that flew out the window when you needed to draw the attention from your own internal strife.
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Postby Mahendo sat » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:23 am

You're one to talk Milograd. You overthrow TSP and various other regions. I thought you of all people would support the coup in Osiris, but, then I forget the general elitist attitude GCR's have. They're superior and therefore more important to us plebs.

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Postby The Grim Reaper » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:32 am

Mahendo sat wrote:You're one to talk Milograd. You overthrow TSP and various other regions. I thought you of all people would support the coup in Osiris, but, then I forget the general elitist attitude GCR's have. They're superior and therefore more important to us plebs.


Milograd hasn't posted here.

The other person I think you could be confusing him with is Jalby, who is both the most visible lead of the current operation (It's his flag flying on the Delegate, that makes him visible :c) and edit: was one of the two main leads (alongside Milo) on TSP.
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Postby the Imperial Crown » Thu Jul 04, 2013 6:32 am

Mahendo sat wrote:You're one to talk Milograd. You overthrow TSP and various other regions. I thought you of all people would support the coup in Osiris, but, then I forget the general elitist attitude GCR's have. They're superior and therefore more important to us plebs.


I don't see Milograd anywhere... unless you can see something I can't?
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Postby A mean old man » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:35 pm

Southern Bellz wrote:Because not only did The Pacific not support TSP as Milograd piled on outside RPers. But you welcomed him with open arms and PROMOTED him to head of foreign affairs, and then sent Milograd be the TP representative to The South Pacific.


That was entirely Gaspo's doing. You should have seen the rant I wrote in response to it when I was promoted. It was batshit insane to put Milo in charge of FA immediately after the coup like that and I personally suspect Gaspo did it to further establish his control over the entire FA program, which he liked to treat as belonging to him alone. His statements in TNP in response to their delegate's supposed "lies" and whatever other nonsense he spewed were promptly retracted by the rest of us, a slap on the wrist he did not take kindly to receiving.

Then Gaspo posted a long winded speech saying that TSP has no right to be mad because both of the Milograds are different (even though it was the same nation). It was one of the most callous acts of disrespect I have faced in my years working with The Pacific.

Were those string of ridiculous events Gaspo's doing, or does The Pacific stand by them? I wish to see TSP/TP relations repaired, especially when we can be united to help Osiris, but they cannot be repaired while Milograd is harbored in TP unpunished. We punished one of our own when they made a half ass coup attempt on TP. What Milo did was much more serious.


The Pacific does not enjoy backpedaling and admits that it has been placed in an awkward position by the events which have transpired between it and TSP. Some of the more active members of the Senate were unaware of the harsh punishment that Antariel received for betraying his position as FA minister and for even attempting (poorly) to overthrow the NPO and have since been informed.

Milo is currently on a hiatus and we feel it would be inappropriate to deal with this currently while he is not present, but will do so immediately when he has returned to NS.
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A: SC#30 - Commend 10000 Islands
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A: GA#149 - On Expiration Dates
C: SC#58 - Repeal "Commend Sedgistan"
A: SC#62 - Repeal "Condemn Swarmlandia"
C: SC#63 - Commend Ballotonia
A: SC#65 - Condemn Punk Reloaded
C: GA#163 - Repeal "Law of the Sea"
A: SC#72 - Repeal "Commend Mikeswill"
C: SC#74 - Condemn Lone Wolves United
C: SC#76 - Repeal "Condemn Thatcherton"
A: SC#81 - Repeal "Condemn Anthony Delasanta"
C: SC#83 - Condemn Automagfreek
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Postby Mad Jack » Thu Jul 04, 2013 1:41 pm

As a long time critic of The Pacific can I just say, welcome to the good guys side.

I obviously hope Pacifica never reconciles with the hypocrites who are currently torpedoing their own legacy in Gatesville Inc.
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