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Should prostitution be legal, is it in your country?

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Postby Divair » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:02 am

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Zottistan wrote:And tell me, why should I be bound to your morality?

It's not my morality, it's just morality as a whole. There is only one true set of morals, and if yours do not align to that set of morals, they are wrong.

Says who?

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Postby CTALNH » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:09 am

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The Flood wrote:It's not my morality, it's just morality as a whole. There is only one true set of morals, and if yours do not align to that set of morals, they are wrong.

Says who?

God probably.
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Postby Divair » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:10 am

CTALNH wrote:
Divair wrote:Says who?

God probably.

I know, just give him a chance to make fun of himself.

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Postby Zottistan » Fri Jun 21, 2013 3:38 am

The Flood wrote:
Zottistan wrote:And tell me, why should I be bound to your morality?

It's not my morality, it's just morality as a whole. There is only one true set of morals, and if yours do not align to that set of morals, they are wrong.

And tell me this, how do you know yours is the right one?
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Postby New Caledonia » Fri Jun 21, 2013 6:18 am

Yes and no, unfortunately...

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Postby New Aerios » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:09 am

Yes, I think it should be legal, purely to undermine organised crime.

It's confusing here in Britain. The act of prostitution itself - exchanging money for sex - is perfectly legal. However, it is illegal to:
- Cause or incite prostitution.
- Control it for personal gain.
- Run a brothel.
- Solicit sex on the street.

Although to be honest, I'm fairly certain most of the police don't have a clue what the laws are.
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Postby Tasebru » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:37 am

New Aerios wrote:Yes, I think it should be legal, purely to undermine organised crime.

It's confusing here in Britain. The act of prostitution itself - exchanging money for sex - is perfectly legal. However, it is illegal to:
- Cause or incite prostitution.
- Control it for personal gain.
- Run a brothel.
- Solicit sex on the street.

Although to be honest, I'm fairly certain most of the police don't have a clue what the laws are.


When they are down on numbers for their targets they just round up a few streetwalkers and pick from the list at random.

It should be legal and confined to licensed brothels. It's always going to exist to we should at least make it as safe as possible for both parties, until the demand goes away. And to everyone saying that it objectifies women, I'm pretty sure there are twice as many male prostitutes. At least in my part of the UK (Northwest).

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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Fri Jun 21, 2013 7:59 am

The Flood wrote:
Zottistan wrote:And tell me, why should I be bound to your morality?

It's not my morality, it's just morality as a whole. There is only one true set of morals, and if yours do not align to that set of morals, they are wrong.


Now, now, now.

Can you tell me where I can find the stone that has the one true set of morals carved in it? Or the philosophical text that 99% of humanity agrees lays down the one true set of morals?

Or, if you will: Says who?

The Flood wrote:
Caecuser wrote:
You're incorrect - morality is a subjective quality as everyone has their own version of it. There is no"right" set of morality.

Please try to remember that we don't live in a theocracy.

Okay then, murder is morally righteous then because I said so because it's subjective... oh wait... it's not.


Except that is kind of how your objective morality works. Or a religious person arguing it - The Bible says this and that is how it is. If the Bible said "murder is legal because I said so..." Oh wait, it does. Old testament. A wide range of "kill people if they do this"

It being subjective means that we have to work towards a consensus on each individual subject, and it can potentially change with time. Compare today with the morality of 50 years ago. Or 200 years ago. Or a 1000 years ago. Oh, and compare the different societies of those times - China vs indigenous Australia vs European nation A vs the Aztecs.... yeah, there really is no one true set of morals.

Our social consensus says murder is bad, and you can't overpower that social consensus with you "ok, murder is good". You try to, and our laws will lock you up. You want to change it you'll have to change the social consensus, which means you'll need to convince enough of society murder is ok for it to become morally acceptable for them. Which you're not going to do, because people aren't stupid. "Murder is bad" is one of the closest things we've got to an absolute moral.

There is things a lot of people tend to agree one - like murder and theft bad, but even reaching that wasn't always a "this is obviously a universal rule that applies to everyone!" Obviously Christians, and Muslims throughout history have had little trouble getting around their respective "don't kill" rules.

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Nowadays? You make it sound like prostitution isn't something that has almost been around as long as human civilisation with various levels of acceptance and cultural significance the world over.

What is disgusting about people deciding what to do with their bodies?

What is disgusting about realizing that this is something we really can't make go away, and putting people in jail doesn't really help. Makes it worse. And what is disgusting about finding it questionable whether a government should be able to say "no, you can't do this with your body" and therefore saying "if we legalese it, we and regulate it. Regulating it means those electing to become prostitutes will be better protected and less exploited, and we can potentially eliminate criminal elements who can utilize prostitution due to its illegality"?

Your probably one of those insane libertarians that thinks we should legalize all drugs, eh?


I don't consider myself a libertarian, but I don't have a problem with the legalization of many drugs. People can do what they like with their bodies. Legalize, tax it, regulate it, eliminate organized crimes power through it.
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Postby Frisbeeteria » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:35 am

2 Pac wrote:Proponents of legalizing prostitution believe ...

So far, all your "new" topics have been copypasta from other sites, like Procon.org. If you have no thoughts of your own, don't bother posting.

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Postby New Aerios » Fri Jun 21, 2013 9:41 am

Not locked...
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