Main Military Weapon of Your Country. MMW A10

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

Smells like lawn clippings and newfaggotry up in here. That said, grenades are aggravating to draw.

[Purpelia]

When did boat tailed rifle bullets become popular? Would it be too early to claim one in the 1900's?
Also, the particular bullet in question is a 20mm one. So I also need to know a good angle to pitch the boat tail at...

The first was intro'ed in 1901

So claiming to have them in say 1905 is acceptable? Excellent.

Because nothing says FU quite as well as driving bands and a boat tail.

[Nirvash Type TheEND]

So I also need to know a good angle to pitch the boat tail at...

Head over to borders barrels and make it.

[Czechovelkov]

Well, my storefront has just started development, it has the Intro, and History of Zaleznych Arms, and then a list of the weapons (under each category) in a box, then theres spoilers for each weapon type (currently only LMG and AR) and then theres the MK1 ALSW(half way finished write up) and the K-10 AR (96% finished). I'm planning on adding body armor, and another AR, and Another LSW, a sniper, two SMG's, one shotgun, and then it'll be open, and I'll keep adding things, I'll eventually add vehicles (built in PMG) armor shall be already existent, just renamed, I'll mainly have plate carriers and rigs, only 2 vests.

[Boer Republics (Ancient)]

Are there any advantages to using 7.62x53mmR Finnish, vs. 7.62x54mmR Tsarist, other than the fact that people can't use Tsarist ammo in your weapons, should they be captured? Does the round have noticeably different performance than its Russian predecessor, or are they basically the same?

"other than the fact that people can't use Tsarist ammo in your weapons, should they be captured"
I'd imagine the opposite is true though, where they could use your ammo in their guns
at least for emergency use, no?

That is indeed the case. But seeing as we won't be fighting offensively, this is not a huge problem.

[Purpelia]

So I also need to know a good angle to pitch the boat tail at...

Head over to borders barrels and make it.

I honestly don't think I need to bother that much. The round is more or less a clone of 20mm Becker, just boat tailed.
Here is an image:


Stats:

Case Length: 70.00 mm
Case Mouth diameter: 21.20 mm
Case Base Diameter: 20.00 mm
Rim Diameter: 20.00 mm

Projectile Length: 86.33 mm
Projectile Base Diameter: 20.80 mm
Caliber: 20mm
Weight: ~130g

[Kalumba]

Now with foregrip, and horrendous top folding stock. Still lots of work on colours and shading to do.

[Czechovelkov]

(Image)

Now with foregrip, and horrendous top folding stock. Still lots of work on colours and shading to do.

Stocks fine now

[Fordorsia]

(Image)

Now with foregrip, and horrendous top folding stock. Still lots of work on colours and shading to do.

Why not just have it fold underneath?

[Benomia]

what happened to this thread when I was gone
wat is going on

It's summer!

what happened to this thread when I was gone
wat is going on

Summer.

Goddamit.

MEN! DIG THE TRENCHES! WE'RE GOING TO GET HIT HARD HERE!

Would break action be more accurate than pump action? I know pump action has a reputation of rather low accuracy.

The difference will be wholly irrelevant and purely academic, but it would make logical sense that if it were stemming purely from the barrel design, pump action would probably have greater accuracy due to the barrel being fixed to the receiver.

I suppose that does make sense. Makes me wonder why pump action is less accurate. But w/e.

[Nua Corda]

Because pump is almost always used on shotguns and varmint/plinker rifles, neither of which is particularly known for accuracy.

[Benomia]

Because pump is almost always used on shotguns and varmint/plinker rifles, neither of which is particularly known for accuracy.

A while back, maybe in the eighth thread, there was a debate about the rate of fire of bolt action rifles, and someone said that pump action would give higher RoF. This was responded to with someone saying that pump action has low accuracy, where bolt action has high accuracy.

[Nua Corda]

Because pump is almost always used on shotguns and varmint/plinker rifles, neither of which is particularly known for accuracy.

A while back, maybe in the eighth thread, there was a debate about the rate of fire of bolt action rifles, and someone said that pump action would give higher RoF. This was responded to with someone saying that pump action has low accuracy, where bolt action has high accuracy.

Bolt action is always going to be the most accurate. Compared to bolt action, anything is going to be lower in accuracy. Context, Beano, is key.

[Benomia]

A while back, maybe in the eighth thread, there was a debate about the rate of fire of bolt action rifles, and someone said that pump action would give higher RoF. This was responded to with someone saying that pump action has low accuracy, where bolt action has high accuracy.

Bolt action is always going to be the most accurate. Compared to bolt action, anything is going to be lower in accuracy. Context, Beano, is key.

True, true.

[Fordorsia]

Did...did both of you just reach common ground? Praise Odin and his glorious ways.

[Bhelyant]

I suppose that does make sense. Makes me wonder why pump action is less accurate. But w/e.

barrel harmonics

[Aqizithiuda]

Because I live in the right side of the world: Winter Is Coming.

Also, waking up at 4:30 to catch a plane sucks, as does waiting for it to arrive.

Well, my storefront has just started development, it has the Intro, and History of Zaleznych Arms, and then a list of the weapons (under each category) in a box, then theres spoilers for each weapon type (currently only LMG and AR) and then theres the MK1 ALSW(half way finished write up) and the K-10 AR (96% finished). I'm planning on adding body armor, and another AR, and Another LSW, a sniper, two SMG's, one shotgun, and then it'll be open, and I'll keep adding things, I'll eventually add vehicles (built in PMG) armor shall be already existent, just renamed, I'll mainly have plate carriers and rigs, only 2 vests.

Why does your LSW have a UGL and such a thin magazine?

Head over to borders barrels and make it.

I honestly don't think I need to bother that much. The round is more or less a clone of 20mm Becker, just boat tailed.
Here is an image:


Stats:

Case Length: 70.00 mm
Case Mouth diameter: 21.20 mm
Case Base Diameter: 20.00 mm
Rim Diameter: 20.00 mm

Projectile Length: 86.33 mm
Projectile Base Diameter: 20.80 mm
Caliber: 20mm
Weight: ~130g

I think you need a bit more area between the BT and driving band for the case to latch on to. More case taper can't hurt either, seeing as this isn't for an API action and you probably don't want to be oiling each cartridge.

[Benomia]

Did...did both of you just reach common ground? Praise Odin and his glorious ways.

I...I don't know what to say.
*returns to GIMP in shame*

[Kouralia]

Bolt action is always going to be the most accurate. Compared to bolt action, anything is going to be lower in accuracy. Context, Beano, is key.

True, true.

Pump Action also requires much more alteration to the firing position. I'd imagine a trained soldier could fully fire, cycle and fire a Lee Enfield without taking the point off the target, but it'd be incredibly hard to do that with a pump, simply because of the hand being used to cycle it.

Because I live in the right side of the world: Winter Is Coming.

Ours Is The Fury.

[Kalumba]

(Image)

Now with foregrip, and horrendous top folding stock. Still lots of work on colours and shading to do.

Why not just have it fold underneath?

Due to design flaws folding it underneath makes it impossible to access either the trigger, fire selector or magazine release depending on the final position of the stock. I am debating whether to go back and redesign it for a bottom folding stock, but as this weapon is designed as a Sten-like cheap, easy to produce emergency weapon I may keep it as is to show the stop-gap nature of the weapon and design a better replacement.

[Purpelia]

I think you need a bit more area between the BT and driving band for the case to latch on to. More case taper can't hurt either, seeing as this isn't for an API action and you probably don't want to be oiling each cartridge.

About the case taper. The round is basically a clone of 20mm Becker. Which was fired out of an automatic canon.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc22.htm

The only real differences with the case is that mine does not have a noticeable neck. Something that actually increases the case taper further. The case dimensions are the same (neck diameter = neck diameter, base diameter = base diameter). And that the rim is slightly different.

[Czechovelkov]

Because I live in the right side of the world: Winter Is Coming.

Also, waking up at 4:30 to catch a plane sucks, as does waiting for it to arrive.

Well, my storefront has just started development, it has the Intro, and History of Zaleznych Arms, and then a list of the weapons (under each category) in a box, then theres spoilers for each weapon type (currently only LMG and AR) and then theres the MK1 ALSW(half way finished write up) and the K-10 AR (96% finished). I'm planning on adding body armor, and another AR, and Another LSW, a sniper, two SMG's, one shotgun, and then it'll be open, and I'll keep adding things, I'll eventually add vehicles (built in PMG) armor shall be already existent, just renamed, I'll mainly have plate carriers and rigs, only 2 vests.

Why does your LSW have a UGL and such a thin magazine?

I honestly don't think I need to bother that much. The round is more or less a clone of 20mm Becker, just boat tailed.
Here is an image:
(Image)

Stats:

Case Length: 70.00 mm
Case Mouth diameter: 21.20 mm
Case Base Diameter: 20.00 mm
Rim Diameter: 20.00 mm

Projectile Length: 86.33 mm
Projectile Base Diameter: 20.80 mm
Caliber: 20mm
Weight: ~130g

I think you need a bit more area between the BT and driving band for the case to latch on to. More case taper can't hurt either, seeing as this isn't for an API action and you probably don't want to be oiling each cartridge.

the magazine looks thin, It's not really that thin, I got the mag from that pasta thing or whatever it's called, someone else designed it, and it's in standard size, so it should be fine, I think it's based on the 'tommy gun' drum mag though.. it has a UGL because I thought the other version I have with the foregrip looked too 'skelatol', I'll get a pic when I have a new tablet.

[Fordorsia]

Why not just have it fold underneath?

Due to design flaws folding it underneath makes it impossible to access either the trigger, fire selector or magazine release depending on the final position of the stock. I am debating whether to go back and redesign it for a bottom folding stock, but as this weapon is designed as a Sten-like cheap, easy to produce emergency weapon I may keep it as is to show the stop-gap nature of the weapon and design a better replacement.

If you want Sten-cheap you would have a simple fixed stock.

[Aqizithiuda]

I think you need a bit more area between the BT and driving band for the case to latch on to. More case taper can't hurt either, seeing as this isn't for an API action and you probably don't want to be oiling each cartridge.

About the case taper. The round is basically a clone of 20mm Becker. Which was fired out of an automatic canon.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc22.htm

The only real differences with the case is that mine does not have a noticeable neck. Something that actually increases the case taper further. The case dimensions are the same (neck diameter = neck diameter, base diameter = base diameter). And that the rim is slightly different.

Sorry, it's hard to see on my phone, so I just assumed the rim wasn't rebated. I think you could get away with non-rebating it.

Because I live in the right side of the world: Winter Is Coming.

Also, waking up at 4:30 to catch a plane sucks, as does waiting for it to arrive.



Why does your LSW have a UGL and such a thin magazine?



I think you need a bit more area between the BT and driving band for the case to latch on to. More case taper can't hurt either, seeing as this isn't for an API action and you probably don't want to be oiling each cartridge.

the magazine looks thin, It's not really that thin, I got the mag from that pasta thing or whatever it's called, someone else designed it, and it's in standard size, so it should be fine, I think it's based on the 'tommy gun' drum mag though.. it has a UGL because I thought the other version I have with the foregrip looked too 'skelatol', I'll get a pic when I have a new tablet.

If it's based on the Thompson drum.mag, then there's a very good chance it's too thin.

UGLs should not be used on a LSW under any circumstances.

[Czechovelkov]

About the case taper. The round is basically a clone of 20mm Becker. Which was fired out of an automatic canon.
http://www.kaisersbunker.com/cc/cc22.htm

The only real differences with the case is that mine does not have a noticeable neck. Something that actually increases the case taper further. The case dimensions are the same (neck diameter = neck diameter, base diameter = base diameter). And that the rim is slightly different.

Sorry, it's hard to see on my phone, so I just assumed the rim wasn't rebated. I think you could get away with non-rebating it.

the magazine looks thin, It's not really that thin, I got the mag from that pasta thing or whatever it's called, someone else designed it, and it's in standard size, so it should be fine, I think it's based on the 'tommy gun' drum mag though.. it has a UGL because I thought the other version I have with the foregrip looked too 'skeletal', I'll get a pic when I have a new tablet.

If it's based on the Thompson drum.mag, then there's a very good chance it's too thin.

UGLs should not be used on a LSW under any circumstances.

The UGL is a custom UGL I created, and the LSW is the only gun I could mount it on, for now, but I have a foregrip version on my SD card (micro SD in an adapter, I prefer them over USB's) I'll get a pic up eventually, I also have a pic with the UGL open, as it is breechloaded, you can see the swivel at the front of the UGL.

Anyway I need criticism on that LSW, for those who have not seen it, here it is:

http://flickr.com/photos/96702612@N07/90366312621