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Does God Exist

Yes
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No
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Maybe so
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New Libertarian States
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:Yes, he does. Jesus is His son and our savior. I believe all other gods are false, only He exists, and He will clean the world of sin.

And...prove it!!!!
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
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who are sick NK waving its dick.
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Postby Jesus Is Our Savior » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:Yes, he does. Jesus is His son and our savior. I believe all other gods are false, only He exists, and He will clean the world of sin.

And...prove it!!!!

The Bible.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:Yes, he does. Jesus is His son and our savior. I believe all other gods are false, only He exists, and He will clean the world of sin.

Believe what you like but please don't pretend it's the only answer.
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Postby YellowApple » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

Asuiop wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:You realize that there is not a shred of archaeological evidence that "Israel" was ever enslaved in Egypt, right? Israel appears to have risen all on its own in the Judaean hills.

So you think they made all that up for no reason whatsoever?


Considering that there is minimal - if any - archaeological evidence for the vast majority of what was written in the Bible: probable.

On the other hand, Moses' people may have also been just a subset of all Israelites that happened to wander over to Egypt and find themselves enslaved, just as the Great Flood is hypothesized to have originated from a local flood that seemed global (or perhaps swept a sailor out to sea).

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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And...prove it!!!!

The Bible.

And why is the bible correct?
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:18 pm

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Postby The Basement of Your Mom » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:19 pm

Asuiop wrote:1. Sending babies to heaven isn't horrific
2. But, if he had simply teleported all of the people out of Egypt, he wouldn't have had the chance to create a lasting impression on them to show them that the Jewish God is real and all-powerful.


1. It is if they are "evil babies," apparently. That's why abortion is wrong, because it exploits a loophole in god's "perfect" system.

2. Teleporting the out of Egypt would have been pretty damn impressive. How about teleporting them out of Egypt, turning the sphinx and all the pyramids upside-down, and making the sky above Egypt (and only above Egypt) have giant neon purple writing saying that YHWH, the god of the Jews, is lord of all creation? No deaths required.

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Postby Jesus Is Our Savior » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:19 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:The Bible.

And why is the bible correct?

It is God's word.

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Postby YellowApple » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And...prove it!!!!

The Bible.


Gandalf must exist! The Lord of the Rings says so!

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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And why is the bible correct?

It is God's word.

And why can't god be false?
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by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
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Postby Jesus Is Our Savior » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:The Bible.


Gandalf must exist! The Lord of the Rings says so!

That is a work of fiction. The Bible is God's word.

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Postby Bodobol » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:Yes, he does. Jesus is His son and our savior. I believe all other gods are false, only He exists, and He will clean the world of sin.


I have a strong feeling this guy is going to attempt trolling/flaming us.

But, why do you believe that a god exists?
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Postby Death Metal » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And...prove it!!!!

The Bible.


Jesus told me you are wrong, and that he's actually the son of Lolth the Spider Queen.

You can't prove that he didn't tell me that, therefore I must be right.
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Postby Asuiop » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:20 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Asuiop wrote:
Wrong, you see, the Jewish believe that only Jews needed to believe and worship God at that time. They believed that anyone who was not a Jew didn't have to worship their God, and that they just had to be good. In fact, when you try to become a Jew today, there is a tradition procedure that you have to go through in which the priest actually tries to dissuade you from becoming a Jew. Therefore, the Jews weren't preaching their religion to them, and most likely rarely mentioned it. Therefore, they didn't really get a fair chance to convert so, if they were good, they went to heaven.


Were the Sodomites Jewish? If not, why did God punish all of them for "sinning" if:

  1. it's not explicitly stated that every single Sodomite was cruel to the "stranger" (applicable even if the Sodomites were Jewish, by the way)
  2. only Jews are held to God's definitions of "sin"

Well, sinning is the wrong word. I should have said, they had an evil soul/was evil
YellowApple wrote:
Asuiop wrote:Well that's the idea of predestination. The basic idea is that God hardens to souls of the evil so they don't follow God's will just to go to heaven. That way people know who the evil people are from the generally good. The Pharaoh most likely was a sinner, and most likely evil.


Yes, he was a sinner - not because of his own doing, but because God forced him to be, not even giving him a chance to repent, or to realize "hey, it's pretty fucked up that I'm enslaving an entire race; I should set them free".

God doesn't want humanity to prosper. He just wants personal playthings. This is becoming increasingly apparent.

Maybe his soul was too evil to repent.
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Postby Jesus Is Our Savior » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:It is God's word.

And why can't god be false?

What started the universe?

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Postby Nanatsu no Tsuki » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm

YellowApple wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:The Bible.


Gandalf must exist! The Lord of the Rings says so!


That means that sparkly vampires exist too?! Woe is me. :/
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And why can't god be false?

What started the universe?

Your not answering the question.
And the Big Bang.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

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Postby Death Metal » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And why can't god be false?

What started the universe?


I farted.
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Postby The Rich Port » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 pm

Nanatsu no Tsuki wrote:
YellowApple wrote:
Gandalf must exist! The Lord of the Rings says so!


That means that sparkly vampires exist too?! Woe is me. :/


Oh, come on, Nana, you don't like sexy sparklepires?

You're a girl, right?
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Postby Threlizdun » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:And why can't god be false?

What started the universe?

All evidence points towards the big bang.
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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:What started the universe?


I farted.

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by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
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Postby Jesus Is Our Savior » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

New Libertarian States wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:What started the universe?

Your not answering the question.
And the Big Bang.

What started the big bang?

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Postby New Libertarian States » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:
New Libertarian States wrote:Your not answering the question.
And the Big Bang.

What started the big bang?

The Higgs Boson particle.
by Liriena » Mon Mar 11, 2013 2:25 pm
Do you hear the people sing?
Singing the song of "No one cares".
It is the music of a people
who are sick NK waving its dick.
When the beating of our ignore cannon
echoes the beating of our facepalms,
there is a life about to start
when we nuke Pyongyang!

Literally a Horse
Not a Libertarian, just like the name.[benevolentthomas] horse is a defender leader in multiple region- whore organizations.
23:07 Unibot If an article could have a sack of testicles - it would.

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Postby YellowApple » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Asuiop wrote:Sending babies to heaven isn't horrific


I'll be right back; I'm gonna go murder some newborns so they can go to Heaven.

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Postby Farnhamia » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 pm

Death Metal wrote:
Jesus Is Our Savior wrote:What started the universe?


I farted.

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