Influence Bug

[LizLemons]

If you look at the top three most influential nations in Osiris, neither of them are or have ever been in the WA. They have more influence than Lyanna Stark who was the delegate for roughly 8 months. Can an admin look into this and provide some input on this? I'm sure there are other nations that show a similar bug, so this might need to be examined. Thank you for your time!

[Biyah]

Actually, most of the top 15 appear ot be glitched.

I should be like, #6. Almost all of the rest are either not WA, or have not be WA long, or havent had a high endo count. And nobody was a high ranking WA longer that Lyanna Stark, who has topped the region for a year in influence.

~B

[Tim-Opolis]

Actually, most of the top 15 appear ot be glitched.

I should be like, #6. Almost all of the rest are either not WA, or have not be WA long, or havent had a high endo count. And nobody was a high ranking WA longer that Lyanna Stark, who has topped the region for a year in influence.

~B

Just to add, Lyanna Stark was #1 at the last census. There's no possible way for a Non-WA nation to have even grown to 200 influence points above her, in the time since the last census.

[Luna Amore]

Actually, most of the top 15 appear ot be glitched.

I should be like, #6. Almost all of the rest are either not WA, or have not be WA long, or havent had a high endo count. And nobody was a high ranking WA longer that Lyanna Stark, who has topped the region for a year in influence.

~B

Just to add, Lyanna Stark was #1 at the last census. There's no possible way for a Non-WA nation to have even grown to 200 influence points above her, in the time since the last census.

It's possible they moved from other regions and weren't part of the last Osiris count.

[LizLemons]

Bump. Any response to this would be great!

[Luna Amore]

If you look at the top three most influential nations in Osiris, neither of them are or have ever been in the WA. They have more influence than Lyanna Stark who was the delegate for roughly 8 months. Can an admin look into this and provide some input on this? I'm sure there are other nations that show a similar bug, so this might need to be examined. Thank you for your time!

Do you remember the nations in question? Because I looked up the only one I remembered, Neo-Nazi Soviets, and he was in the WA for a long period of time in a feeder.

I pretty sure those three nations accumulated their influence in other regions and moved to Osiris in between Most Influential censuses.

[Eist]

You don't have to be in the WA at all to collect influence. Therefore, screenshots of the list or just the names of the nations in order would help. If you move regions, you start in the new region with no influence. You will also slowly lose influence in the old region, but can recover some of this if you move back before it reaches 0. If you were in the WA and had a lot of endorsements, dropped WA status, you will still have a lot of influence which you won't necessarily lose if you stay in the same region, albeit you will accumulate it more slowly relative to the other nations in the region.

[LizLemons]

Here's an example:

http://www.nationstates.net/page=compar ... ensusid=65

Does this mean that influence is tallied as a whole rather than within that particular region? This nation has never been in the WA within in Osiris to my knowledge and has 200 more influence than anyone else in the region.

[Frisbeeteria]

It's not a bug, it's a difference of interpretation. They do have a ton of influence (quite a bit more than Lyanna Stark, in fact), but it's not Osiris influence. This is a problem that only the Revival regions are likely to have, as they're the ones who get long-established nations who suddenly find themselves elsewhere after a brief CTE. It's a measure of aggregate influence, not a direct measure of regional influence. It's quite possible the admins set it up this way to prevent you from collecting accurate information on relative influence levels. I can't address that, only the fact that it doesn't appear to be a bug.

[Eist]

That's odd that The Dourian Embassy is a "Duckspeaker" but has less than half the influence that the minnow Liononim has.

[Ballotonia]

Correct, this is not a bug. The Influence number doesn't reflect influence in just ones current region.

Ballotonia

[Eist]

I see. Liononim had been in TNP for a very long time and in the WA. So I assume that he still has a lot of residual influence from his time there.