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Ainin
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Postby Ainin » Thu May 23, 2013 7:55 pm

Strykla wrote:
Ainin wrote:Added. And thank you.


Also, a quick note (directed at no one in particular) that this bill gives a purpose to my ministry, which currently has absolutely no tasks.

Well I would say to give more toward the common scientist and less toward the big-name astronauts and stuff - astronauts are great to have but astrophysicists do more with gigantic radio telescopes and stuff. Plus we need science faires. Like, let kids operate car crash test machines to get them interested.

Dutifully noted. The Ministry will emphasize on research and hopefully coordinate with Education and maybe Sport & Culture to get youth interested in science.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu May 23, 2013 8:35 pm

Senatorial Accountability Act

Drafted by: Soviet Canuckistan (LD)

Co-Sponsors:


The government of our nation,

RECOGNIZES that senators must be accountable to their constituents and to the nation.

IS AWARE that legislation must be passed so senators will stay accountable to their constituents and the nation.

Hereby passes the Senatorial Accountability Act which,

CREATES the Senatorial Accountability Commission, which for the purposes of this act will be known as the SAC

MANDATES that the SAC:
-is a non-partisan commission
-provides all necessary papers and aid to all citizens, regardless of political affiliation or other factors (race, religion, etc.)
-be provided sufficient government funding to carry out its duties effectively


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is eligible to vote to recall the senator in their constituency and to initiate a by-election.

The process of recalling a senator shall be as follows:

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Senator Recall Petition (SRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 5% or more of the eligible voters in their constituency on the SRP.

3. The SRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the SRP to make sure they are valid

5. If the required 5% is met, the SAC will force the senator that the SRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to 5 years and fined up to 1,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 48 hours of the resignation, the by-election process will commence. The recalled senator will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to by-elections.

7. Within 60 days of the by-election process commencing but no less than 30 days of the process commencing, the by-election must be held.


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is an eligible voter to recall the President and to initiate a Presidential election.

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Presidential Recall Petition (PRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 10% or more of the eligible voters in the nation on the PRP. There must be signatures from 5% of the voters in each constituency for the PRP to be valid.

3. The PRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the PRP to make sure they are valid and meet the requirements.

5. If the required 10% is met, the SAC will force the President that the PRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to life imprisonment and fined up to 5,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 72 hours of the resignation, the presidential election process will commence. The recalled President will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to presidential election.

7. Within 90 days of the presidential election process commencing but no less than 50 days of the process commencing, the presidential election must be held.

MANDATES that the President or any senator may be forced to resign by the SAC for any of the following reasons:

-Contempt of the Senate, which entails:
-deliberately misleading the Senate, or a Senatorial committee;
-refusing to testify before, or to produce documents to, a the Senate or a committee;
-attempting to influence a member of the Senate by bribery or threats.

-A Motion of No Confidence, such as a loss of supply or the loss of confidence of the Senate (applies only to the President and not to senators)

Any thoughts or suggestions/amendments?
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Postby Mishmahig » Thu May 23, 2013 8:48 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Senatorial Accountability Act

Drafted by: Soviet Canuckistan (LD)

Co-Sponsors:


The government of our nation,

RECOGNIZES that senators must be accountable to their constituents and to the nation.

IS AWARE that legislation must be passed so senators will stay accountable to their constituents and the nation.

Hereby passes the Senatorial Accountability Act which,

CREATES the Senatorial Accountability Commission, which for the purposes of this act will be known as the SAC

MANDATES that the SAC:
-is a non-partisan commission
-provides all necessary papers and aid to all citizens, regardless of political affiliation or other factors (race, religion, etc.)
-be provided sufficient government funding to carry out its duties effectively


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is eligible to vote to recall the senator in their constituency and to initiate a by-election.

The process of recalling a senator shall be as follows:

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Senator Recall Petition (SRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 5% or more of the eligible voters in their constituency on the SRP.

3. The SRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the SRP to make sure they are valid

5. If the required 5% is met, the SAC will force the senator that the SRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to 5 years and fined up to 1,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 48 hours of the resignation, the by-election process will commence. The recalled senator will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to by-elections.

7. Within 60 days of the by-election process commencing but no less than 30 days of the process commencing, the by-election must be held.


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is an eligible voter to recall the President and to initiate a Presidential election.

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Presidential Recall Petition (PRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 10% or more of the eligible voters in the nation on the PRP. There must be signatures from 5% of the voters in each constituency for the PRP to be valid.

3. The PRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the PRP to make sure they are valid and meet the requirements.

5. If the required 10% is met, the SAC will force the President that the PRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to life imprisonment and fined up to 5,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 72 hours of the resignation, the presidential election process will commence. The recalled President will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to presidential election.

7. Within 90 days of the presidential election process commencing but no less than 50 days of the process commencing, the presidential election must be held.

MANDATES that the President or any senator may be forced to resign by the SAC for any of the following reasons:

-Contempt of the Senate, which entails:
-deliberately misleading the Senate, or a Senatorial committee;
-refusing to testify before, or to produce documents to, a the Senate or a committee;
-attempting to influence a member of the Senate by bribery or threats.

-A Motion of No Confidence, such as a loss of supply or the loss of confidence of the Senate (applies only to the President and not to senators)

Any thoughts or suggestions/amendments?


The percentages required for a recall election are far too low. Any political group of decent size could constantly force controversial/opposition Senators to defend themselves in special election after special election. Also, a Senator should not have to resign until the results of the election are calculated.

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu May 23, 2013 9:04 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Senatorial Accountability Act

Drafted by: Soviet Canuckistan (LD)

Co-Sponsors:


The government of our nation,

RECOGNIZES that senators must be accountable to their constituents and to the nation.

IS AWARE that legislation must be passed so senators will stay accountable to their constituents and the nation.

Hereby passes the Senatorial Accountability Act which,

CREATES the Senatorial Accountability Commission, which for the purposes of this act will be known as the SAC

MANDATES that the SAC:
-is a non-partisan commission
-provides all necessary papers and aid to all citizens, regardless of political affiliation or other factors (race, religion, etc.)
-be provided sufficient government funding to carry out its duties effectively


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is eligible to vote to recall the senator in their constituency and to initiate a by-election.

The process of recalling a senator shall be as follows:

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Senator Recall Petition (SRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 5% or more of the eligible voters in their constituency on the SRP.

3. The SRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the SRP to make sure they are valid

5. If the required 5% is met, the SAC will force the senator that the SRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to 5 years and fined up to 1,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 48 hours of the resignation, the by-election process will commence. The recalled senator will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to by-elections.

7. Within 60 days of the by-election process commencing but no less than 30 days of the process commencing, the by-election must be held.


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is an eligible voter to recall the President and to initiate a Presidential election.

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Presidential Recall Petition (PRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 10% or more of the eligible voters in the nation on the PRP. There must be signatures from 5% of the voters in each constituency for the PRP to be valid.

3. The PRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the PRP to make sure they are valid and meet the requirements.

5. If the required 10% is met, the SAC will force the President that the PRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to life imprisonment and fined up to 5,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 72 hours of the resignation, the presidential election process will commence. The recalled President will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to presidential election.

7. Within 90 days of the presidential election process commencing but no less than 50 days of the process commencing, the presidential election must be held.

MANDATES that the President or any senator may be forced to resign by the SAC for any of the following reasons:

-Contempt of the Senate, which entails:
-deliberately misleading the Senate, or a Senatorial committee;
-refusing to testify before, or to produce documents to, a the Senate or a committee;
-attempting to influence a member of the Senate by bribery or threats.

-A Motion of No Confidence, such as a loss of supply or the loss of confidence of the Senate (applies only to the President and not to senators)

Any thoughts or suggestions/amendments?


The percentages required for a recall election are far too low. Any political group of decent size could constantly force controversial/opposition Senators to defend themselves in special election after special election. Also, a Senator should not have to resign until the results of the election are calculated.

Any ideas for percentages then? Why should a senator not be forced to resign till after a by-election?
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Postby Mishmahig » Thu May 23, 2013 9:10 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
The percentages required for a recall election are far too low. Any political group of decent size could constantly force controversial/opposition Senators to defend themselves in special election after special election. Also, a Senator should not have to resign until the results of the election are calculated.

Any ideas for percentages then? Why should a senator not be forced to resign till after a by-election?


I'll do some research on numbers and get back to you on percentages.

And until the majority of the people in the province/area/etc have demonstrated that they clearly and distinctly do not want that Senator representing their interests (aka, an election), forcing that Senator to resign would be depriving the people of that province of their duly elected Senator for extended periods of time.

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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Thu May 23, 2013 9:16 pm

Mishmahig wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:Any ideas for percentages then? Why should a senator not be forced to resign till after a by-election?


I'll do some research on numbers and get back to you on percentages.

And until the majority of the people in the province/area/etc have demonstrated that they clearly and distinctly do not want that Senator representing their interests (aka, an election), forcing that Senator to resign would be depriving the people of that province of their duly elected Senator for extended periods of time.

It's not an extended period, at most it's 60 days.
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Postby Mishmahig » Thu May 23, 2013 9:25 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Mishmahig wrote:
I'll do some research on numbers and get back to you on percentages.

And until the majority of the people in the province/area/etc have demonstrated that they clearly and distinctly do not want that Senator representing their interests (aka, an election), forcing that Senator to resign would be depriving the people of that province of their duly elected Senator for extended periods of time.

It's not an extended period, at most it's 60 days.


Crucial bills can be passed in two or so days. If it lasts the full sixty days, then a Senator could miss up to thirty bills--and that's without factoring in omnibus proposals into the equation.

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Postby Old Tyrannia » Fri May 24, 2013 3:03 am

Evraim wrote:
Old Tyrannia wrote:On an unrelated note, I need four endorsements for the CAF Act to get it to the Senate Chamber:
Commonwealth Armed Forces Act

Urgency: High | Sponsors: Old Tyrannia


THE SENATE OF AURENTINA,

RECOGNIZING that the Commonwealth of Aurentina currently lacks an organized military force, and that this leaves our nation vulnerable to attack;

MANDATES the formation of a national military, officially titled the Commonwealth Armed Forces;

FURTHER MANDATES the division of the Armed Forces into three branches of service, the Commonwealth Navy, the Commonwealth Army and the Commonwealth Airforce;

ESTABLISHES the Commonwealth General Headquarters as the governing body of the CAF, to be composed of the most senior officers of the three branches of service, appointed by and answerable to the Minister of Defence.

ESTABLISHES that the prerogative to declare war shall remain solely with the Senate;

ESTABLISHES the Chiefs of Staff as professional heads of the Armed Forces, including:
  • The General Chief of Staff - Professional Head of the Commonwealth Army
  • The Chief of Naval Staff - Professional Head of the Commonwealth Navy
  • The Chief of Airforce Staff - Professional Head of the Commonwealth Airforce
  • The Chief of Defence Staff - Professional Head of the entire Commonwealth Armed Forces

MANDATES that all physically and mentally fit citizens of 16 years of age and without criminal records may join the Commonwealth Armed Forces:

FURTHER MANDATES that citizens may be deployed for active duty at 18 years of age;

RECOGNIZING that enlistment in the CAF must be voluntary;

ALLOWING conscription only under a state of national emergency declared by the Senate, and mandating that conscripts with a deeply held moral objection to fighting be allowed to serve in non-combat roles.

ESTABLISHES that the salary of personnel in the CAF shall be decided by the Ministry of Defence;

MANDATES that the minimal length of service for CAF personnel shall be five years, with the option to serve an additional two years and so on until personnel are no longer physically or mentally able;

ESTABLISHES that the pension arrangements of CAF personnel shall be organized by the Ministry of Defence, subject to the approval of the Senate.

THUS ESTABLISHES the Commonwealth Armed Forces.


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Excellent! Three more sponsors to go.
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri May 24, 2013 3:14 am

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Senatorial Accountability Act

Drafted by: Soviet Canuckistan (LD)

Co-Sponsors:


The government of our nation,

RECOGNIZES that senators must be accountable to their constituents and to the nation.

IS AWARE that legislation must be passed so senators will stay accountable to their constituents and the nation.

Hereby passes the Senatorial Accountability Act which,

CREATES the Senatorial Accountability Commission, which for the purposes of this act will be known as the SAC

MANDATES that the SAC:
-is a non-partisan commission
-provides all necessary papers and aid to all citizens, regardless of political affiliation or other factors (race, religion, etc.)
-be provided sufficient government funding to carry out its duties effectively


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is eligible to vote to recall the senator in their constituency and to initiate a by-election.

The process of recalling a senator shall be as follows:

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Senator Recall Petition (SRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 5% or more of the eligible voters in their constituency on the SRP.

3. The SRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the SRP to make sure they are valid

5. If the required 5% is met, the SAC will force the senator that the SRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to 5 years and fined up to 1,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 48 hours of the resignation, the by-election process will commence. The recalled senator will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to by-elections.

7. Within 60 days of the by-election process commencing but no less than 30 days of the process commencing, the by-election must be held.


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is an eligible voter to recall the President and to initiate a Presidential election.

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Presidential Recall Petition (PRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 10% or more of the eligible voters in the nation on the PRP. There must be signatures from 5% of the voters in each constituency for the PRP to be valid.

3. The PRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the PRP to make sure they are valid and meet the requirements.

5. If the required 10% is met, the SAC will force the President that the PRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to life imprisonment and fined up to 5,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 72 hours of the resignation, the presidential election process will commence. The recalled President will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to presidential election.

7. Within 90 days of the presidential election process commencing but no less than 50 days of the process commencing, the presidential election must be held.

MANDATES that the President or any senator may be forced to resign by the SAC for any of the following reasons:

-Contempt of the Senate, which entails:
-deliberately misleading the Senate, or a Senatorial committee;
-refusing to testify before, or to produce documents to, a the Senate or a committee;
-attempting to influence a member of the Senate by bribery or threats.

-A Motion of No Confidence, such as a loss of supply or the loss of confidence of the Senate (applies only to the President and not to senators)

Any thoughts or suggestions/amendments?

Silly. The power of impeachment of the President rests with the Senate. If a Senator is physically/mentally unfit to hold office, can not legally do so, has died or has resigned at their own will, then that should be the only reason. Otherwise, then boo hop, tough luck. You voted a guy in, he serves his term, if you don't like him, next election vote for someone else. If Obama murdered someone, then the courts should revoke his Presidency, but he shouldn't have to face impreachment because some rednecks say so.

EDIT: Forgot to finish last sentence.
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Postby Strykla » Fri May 24, 2013 3:39 am

Old Tyrannia wrote:
Evraim wrote:First! And I'm willing to sponsor...

Excellent! Three more sponsors to go.

I'll sponsor.
Wolfmanne wrote:
Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Senatorial Accountability Act

Drafted by: Soviet Canuckistan (LD)

Co-Sponsors:


The government of our nation,

RECOGNIZES that senators must be accountable to their constituents and to the nation.

IS AWARE that legislation must be passed so senators will stay accountable to their constituents and the nation.

Hereby passes the Senatorial Accountability Act which,

CREATES the Senatorial Accountability Commission, which for the purposes of this act will be known as the SAC

MANDATES that the SAC:
-is a non-partisan commission
-provides all necessary papers and aid to all citizens, regardless of political affiliation or other factors (race, religion, etc.)
-be provided sufficient government funding to carry out its duties effectively


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is eligible to vote to recall the senator in their constituency and to initiate a by-election.

The process of recalling a senator shall be as follows:

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Senator Recall Petition (SRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 5% or more of the eligible voters in their constituency on the SRP.

3. The SRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the SRP to make sure they are valid

5. If the required 5% is met, the SAC will force the senator that the SRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to 5 years and fined up to 1,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 48 hours of the resignation, the by-election process will commence. The recalled senator will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to by-elections.

7. Within 60 days of the by-election process commencing but no less than 30 days of the process commencing, the by-election must be held.


ALLOWS any citizen over 18 that holds citizenship in this nation and is an eligible voter to recall the President and to initiate a Presidential election.

1.The citizen will acquire the necessary forms to start an official Presidential Recall Petition (PRP)

2.The citizen must obtain signatures from 10% or more of the eligible voters in the nation on the PRP. There must be signatures from 5% of the voters in each constituency for the PRP to be valid.

3. The PRP will be submitted to the SAC

4. The SAC will verify the signatures on the PRP to make sure they are valid and meet the requirements.

5. If the required 10% is met, the SAC will force the President that the PRP was filed against to resign within a 72 hour period. If a senator does not follow the orders of the SAC, they can be imprisoned for a period of up to life imprisonment and fined up to 5,000,000 dollars on the charge of Violating a SAC Mandate.

6. Within 72 hours of the resignation, the presidential election process will commence. The recalled President will be allowed to contest the election. All laws applying to elections will continue to apply to presidential election.

7. Within 90 days of the presidential election process commencing but no less than 50 days of the process commencing, the presidential election must be held.

MANDATES that the President or any senator may be forced to resign by the SAC for any of the following reasons:

-Contempt of the Senate, which entails:
-deliberately misleading the Senate, or a Senatorial committee;
-refusing to testify before, or to produce documents to, a the Senate or a committee;
-attempting to influence a member of the Senate by bribery or threats.

-A Motion of No Confidence, such as a loss of supply or the loss of confidence of the Senate (applies only to the President and not to senators)

Any thoughts or suggestions/amendments?

Silly. The power of impeachment of the President rests with the Senate. If a Senator is physically/mentally unfit to hold office, can not legally do so, has died or has resigned at their own will, then that should be the only reason. Otherwise, then boo hop, tough luck. You voted a guy in, he serves his term, if you don't like him, next election vote for someone else. If Obama murdered someone, then the courts should revoke his Presidency, but he shouldn't have to face impreachment

I agree. Even with being critical of this bill's parts, who hold the power to say how many people vote for the impeachment of a senator and/or president? And if five percent were all it took to force a senator out, then the senate would quickly be reduced to just a few people.
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Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 4:40 am

I fully endores the Senatorial Accountability Act.

We need to get an anti-discrimination bill in the works. Right now any employer, even at the federal level can refuse to hire someone due to race, gender or anything! We need to create protected categories too for hate crime legislation.
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Postby Great Nepal » Fri May 24, 2013 4:42 am

Senatorial Supremacy Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:Jetan, The Realm of God, Potenco, Old Tyrannia


This senate and this nation, hereby recognises senate to have absolute sovereignty, and reign supreme over all other government institutions and through out borders of the nation with no reservations, exception or circumscription. With this recognition, be it enacted by order of this senate assembled today,

Section 1: Enacts such that
a) This senate declares the right to make or unmake any and all law to lie solely with this senate and no other national or international body or organisation.
b) This senate declares that no national or international person or body has nor shall have right to override or set aside the legislation passed by the senate with sole exception of senate itself.
c) This act further establishes any proposals and/or treaties made by or between national, international groups or bodies must be ratified by this senate before it is brought into effect in any part or whole of this nation.
d) Establishes an exception to section 1 (b), which allows supreme court to overturn laws passed by this senate provided following conditions are met in their entirety:-
  • The law has been referred to senate to be re-evaluated atleast twice and,
  • The law was passed unconstitutionally without following parliamentary procedure or,
  • The law passed contradicts previous law passed by the senate.

Just posting it again, for comments and/ or sponsors...
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Postby The Realm of God » Fri May 24, 2013 4:57 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Senatorial Supremacy Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:Jetan


This senate and this nation, hereby recognises senate to have absolute sovereignty, and reign supreme over all other government institutions and through out borders of the nation with no reservations, exception or circumscription. With this recognition, be it enacted by order of this senate assembled today,

Section 1: Enacts such that
a) This senate declares the right to make or unmake any and all law to lie solely with this senate and no other national or international body or organisation.
b) This senate declares that no national or international person or body has nor shall have right to override or set aside the legislation passed by the senate with sole exception of senate itself.
c) This act further establishes any proposals and/or treaties made by or between national, international groups or bodies must be ratified by this senate before it is brought into effect in any part or whole of this nation.
d) Establishes an exception to section 1 (b), which allows supreme court to overturn laws passed by this senate provided following conditions are met in their entirety:-
  • The law has been referred to senate to be re-evaluated atleast twice and,
  • The law was passed unconstitutionally without following parliamentary procedure or,
  • The law passed contradicts previous law passed by the senate.

Just posting it again, for comments and/ or sponsors...


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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri May 24, 2013 5:42 am

Potenco wrote:I fully endores the Senatorial Accountability Act.

We need to get an anti-discrimination bill in the works. Right now any employer, even at the federal level can refuse to hire someone due to race, gender or anything! We need to create protected categories too for hate crime legislation.

Do you want to co-sponsor it.?
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Soviet Canuckistan wrote:It's not an extended period, at most it's 60 days.


Crucial bills can be passed in two or so days. If it lasts the full sixty days, then a Senator could miss up to thirty bills--and that's without factoring in omnibus proposals into the equation.

I'll change it to a compromise, that the senator will retain his seat till the deadline for candidacy papers, if he doesn't become a candidate he'll have to resign.
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Postby Soviet Canuckistan » Fri May 24, 2013 5:49 am

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Old Tyrannia wrote:Excellent! Three more sponsors to go.

I'll sponsor.
Wolfmanne wrote:Silly. The power of impeachment of the President rests with the Senate. If a Senator is physically/mentally unfit to hold office, can not legally do so, has died or has resigned at their own will, then that should be the only reason. Otherwise, then boo hop, tough luck. You voted a guy in, he serves his term, if you don't like him, next election vote for someone else. If Obama murdered someone, then the courts should revoke his Presidency, but he shouldn't have to face impreachment

I agree. Even with being critical of this bill's parts, who hold the power to say how many people vote for the impeachment of a senator and/or president? And if five percent were all it took to force a senator out, then the senate would quickly be reduced to just a few people.

It doesn't take 5%, the senator can still win back his seat in a by-election and the percentages will probably be raised. To address Wolfmanne's point, if a senator goes against the wishes of his constituents why should he get paid for not doing his job? If they vote him in, they should be able to vote him out within a reasonable period.
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Postby Vistulange » Fri May 24, 2013 5:52 am

Ainin wrote:
Research and Astronomy Improvement Act
Urgency: Low | Drafted By: Ainin (Minister of Research of Astronomy) | Sponsors: Strykla, Yanalia, Greater Pokarnia

The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the executive cabinet ministry by the name of the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is tasked with the duty of managing and sponsoring scientific research in Aurentina, providing funding to specialized research agencies alongside providing oversight to the space program and facilitating funding for research and space programs,

Reaffirming that the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is to promote and support scientific developments and aerospatial exploration through financial, social and diplomatic channels,

Section I: Funding
A) 7% of the annual budget of the Ministry is to be held in trust by the Ministry of Treasury and Finance as a "rainy-day fund"
B) A rainy-day fund is defined for the purpose of this law as a reserved amount of money to be used in times when regular income is decreased in order for typical operations to continue
C) The minister responsible or the prime minister may activate the fund at any time if they feel that operations may severely be affected without the additional funding

Section II: Accounting
A) The office of Ombudsman for the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is created to investigate rights violation and maladministration complaints filed by Aurentine citizens and enterprises
B) The Ombudsman is appointed by the Ministry of Justice and approved by a 10-person panel chosen from the Aurentine electorate
C) The Ombudsman is to be replaced every 4 years and selected by a new 10-person panel that may not contain people from prior ones
D) The Ombudsman is to have a university degree in accounting and is responsible for auditing the ministry at least twice a year

Section III: Astronaut Selection
A) The term astronaut is defined for the purpose of this law as an Aurentine public servant trained by a human spaceflight program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a spacecraft
B) Astronauts are selected among any candidates who present their names, along with the appropriate forms, less than 30 days after the job offering is posted
C) Candidates must not have any history of violent or uncontrollable mental or physical disorder or a violent felony on their criminal record
D) Candidates may not be rejected on basis of sex, race, religion or any category that does not impede the ability or performance of the person
E) Selected candidates must finish the two-month training camp and pass a written test

Section IV: Security and Protection
A) All astronauts are to be trained in emergency situation management in case of incident onboard a spacecraft
B) Deliberately sabotaging a spacecraft is classified as terrorism [note: that is, if the PCC passes]
C) Accidentally disabling functions of a spacecraft leading to fatalities is classified as reckless endangerment [note: see above note]
D) Scientists and contractors found to be deliberately misleading ministry officials with the aim of receiving money from the government will be charged with the newly-created crime of fraud (class II felony) [note: see note above above note]
E) The Ministry of Transportation is tasked with investigating accidents and incidents onboard or involving spacecraft

Concluding that this act provides an adequate plan for scientific development in Aurentina,

Requires clauses IV-B, IV-C and IV-D to be adequately replaced in case of the repeal of the mentioned sections of the Provisional Criminal Code, [note: that is, if the PCC passes]

Hereby Passes the Research and Astronomy Improvement Act


I'll sponsor this. However, should the rainy day fund usage be tied solely to one cabinet member or prime minister?

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Postby Quirina » Fri May 24, 2013 10:44 am

Quirina wrote:Fellas, the latest version of my bill. Read it and check for yourselves.
The Commerce Ministry Act


Drafted by: Quirina
Co-drafted by: Nationalist Eminral Republic, New Israelia, Regnum Dominae, Geilinor, Mishmahig, The Zeonic States, Evraim, Glasgia, Fulflood, Yanalia

The Senate of the Nation that has yet to be named;

WHEREAS, businesses have their own rules and regulations and remains uncontrolled by the NSG Government.

WHEREAS, there is no existing government agency to protect the boundary between businesses and government institutions.

OBSERVING that there are less or no regulations of the government concerning the rights and welfare of business institutions.

REALIZING that businesses must not be overrun nor be accounted as one of the agencies of the government.

PROPOSES that this new Ministry shall be called the "Ministry of Commerce".

MANDATES that this Ministry must be created to solidify the aim in placing boundaries and bridges between businesses and the government.

MANDATES that this Ministry shall be the open ground between the two aforementioned institutions.

MANDATES that this Ministry shall forward the rights and welfare of both the workers and employees, the businesses and the government.

MANDATES that the Ministry will work under the following responsibilities:
1.) The welfare and protection of the consumers
2.) The quality of the products being manufactured by the businesses for the consumers
3.) The welfare and rights of the workers and employees for the businesses' sufficient manpower
4.) The cultural and social barrier between the businesses and the government
5.) The gate-keeping of the Ministry in its inert aim to separate the businesses and the government in the state's political affairs
6.) The cooperation between the businesses and the Government through the Ministry of Commerce.
7.) The assurance of the Ministry that such responsibilities are done efficiently and effectively to avoid future problems such as corporatocracies, privatization and business-government rivalries.

MANDATES that the Ministry shall uphold impartial and unbiased service for the NSG in order for the responsibilities to be done in its maximum extent of effectivity.

MANDATES that the Ministry shall spearhead all economic activities by encouraging friendly foreign nations and states to initiate trade and communication with us and helping to facilitate investment in the country.

GRANTING that the workers' rights must be also upheld by the Ministry with importance and concern through the following privileges and bounds:
1.) Workers shall be given minimum wage per hour they work. Minimum wage for both private and public sector workers will be $15/hr.
2.) Overtime pay shall be paid as well.
3.) Workers may have a maximum workload of 8 hours a day, 5 days a week of work (for full-time workers) unless the employee agrees to have an extra/overtime.
4.) Workers shall be guaranteed 2 weeks of paid vacation
5.) Employers are responsible for the safety and security of the workplace.
6.) All government benefits established at the time being this Act is passed shall be granted to the workers' side of compensation. And these include health discounts, insurances, loan programs and the like.
7.) Worker unions, associations, and cooperatives are freely to be formed/established. However, businesses can also be free to recognize or deny recognition of such groups, depending on the working environment of the establishment, but shall have no right to deny their workers of their duly given rights.

PROHIBITS the businesses to influence government decision-making processes and related affairs of the State.

ESTABLISHES the Ministry of Commerce to be in charge of checking the bounds between businesses and the State, the freedom of the free market from government involvement and control, the assurance and feasibility of service for the rights and welfare of the workers and the efficiency of economic improvement through the Ministry of Commerce.

I'm bringing this up again before I let it to be on queue. There are two more concerns that I received for the bill, which I already fixed:
- Workers' rights are guaranteed by the Ministry of Commerce with the Ministry of Work, if we have MoW.
- About the encouragement of trade and commerce by the MoC, it's now added as one of the duties of the Ministry.
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Postby Byzantium Imperial » Fri May 24, 2013 11:33 am

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Excellent! Three more sponsors to go.

Second and willing to sponser
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Postby Geadland » Fri May 24, 2013 12:01 pm

I oppose the Senatorial Accountability Act for the following reasons:
  • It isn't entirely clear what system is used to elect the Senate (ICly). It can't be a FPTP system or any system with one Senator for each constituency, because otherwise there is no way you could have so many parties represented fairly evenly in the Senate. For all we know, constituencies may actually have more than one Senator representing them. This needs to be clarified.
  • Recall elections would not give power to the people; to create a big enough petition would require people to be paid to go from door to door, collecting signatures, and this would cost a lot of money. The source of this money would inevitably be businesses, unions and political campaign groups, which entirely defeats its purpose in first place - to make senators accountable to voters. It's actually a two way problem - a high threshold means that only big money can force a recall election, a low threshold means a recall election can be forced for frivolous reasons.
  • Recall petitions would likely be used for mischief. A sitting minister - or even the Prime Minister - would still have a constituency to represent (or at least, it appears to be this way). Within that constituency, it is almost certain that far more than 5% of the electorate in this constituency who will despise him/her and be willing to sign a recall petition. It's not going to be much fun governing Aurentina if your ministers keep geting ejected from the Senate.
  • The presidency itself doesn't have that much power so it's a bit pointless to have an expensive system for removing the President from office.
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Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 12:11 pm

Soviet Canuckistan wrote:
Potenco wrote:I fully endores the Senatorial Accountability Act.

We need to get an anti-discrimination bill in the works. Right now any employer, even at the federal level can refuse to hire someone due to race, gender or anything! We need to create protected categories too for hate crime legislation.

Do you want to co-sponsor it.?
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Crucial bills can be passed in two or so days. If it lasts the full sixty days, then a Senator could miss up to thirty bills--and that's without factoring in omnibus proposals into the equation.

I'll change it to a compromise, that the senator will retain his seat till the deadline for candidacy papers, if he doesn't become a candidate he'll have to resign.


I most certainly co-sponsor this bill. Also, is anyone interested in drafting a employment discrimination bill? For one, it is strange to run a country where gay people can be married but also fired for their orientation and we need to protect equality in hiring.
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Postby Potenco » Fri May 24, 2013 12:17 pm

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Senatorial Supremacy Act
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors:Jetan, The Realm of God


This senate and this nation, hereby recognises senate to have absolute sovereignty, and reign supreme over all other government institutions and through out borders of the nation with no reservations, exception or circumscription. With this recognition, be it enacted by order of this senate assembled today,

Section 1: Enacts such that
a) This senate declares the right to make or unmake any and all law to lie solely with this senate and no other national or international body or organisation.
b) This senate declares that no national or international person or body has nor shall have right to override or set aside the legislation passed by the senate with sole exception of senate itself.
c) This act further establishes any proposals and/or treaties made by or between national, international groups or bodies must be ratified by this senate before it is brought into effect in any part or whole of this nation.
d) Establishes an exception to section 1 (b), which allows supreme court to overturn laws passed by this senate provided following conditions are met in their entirety:-
  • The law has been referred to senate to be re-evaluated atleast twice and,
  • The law was passed unconstitutionally without following parliamentary procedure or,
  • The law passed contradicts previous law passed by the senate.

Just posting it again, for comments and/ or sponsors...


I certainly co-sponsor this
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Postby Ainin » Fri May 24, 2013 12:54 pm

Vistulange wrote:
Ainin wrote:
Research and Astronomy Improvement Act
Urgency: Low | Drafted By: Ainin (Minister of Research of Astronomy) | Sponsors: Strykla, Yanalia, Greater Pokarnia

The Senate of Aurentina,

Noting that the executive cabinet ministry by the name of the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is tasked with the duty of managing and sponsoring scientific research in Aurentina, providing funding to specialized research agencies alongside providing oversight to the space program and facilitating funding for research and space programs,

Reaffirming that the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is to promote and support scientific developments and aerospatial exploration through financial, social and diplomatic channels,

Section I: Funding
A) 7% of the annual budget of the Ministry is to be held in trust by the Ministry of Treasury and Finance as a "rainy-day fund"
B) A rainy-day fund is defined for the purpose of this law as a reserved amount of money to be used in times when regular income is decreased in order for typical operations to continue
C) The minister responsible or the prime minister may activate the fund at any time if they feel that operations may severely be affected without the additional funding

Section II: Accounting
A) The office of Ombudsman for the Ministry of Research and Astronomy is created to investigate rights violation and maladministration complaints filed by Aurentine citizens and enterprises
B) The Ombudsman is appointed by the Ministry of Justice and approved by a 10-person panel chosen from the Aurentine electorate
C) The Ombudsman is to be replaced every 4 years and selected by a new 10-person panel that may not contain people from prior ones
D) The Ombudsman is to have a university degree in accounting and is responsible for auditing the ministry at least twice a year

Section III: Astronaut Selection
A) The term astronaut is defined for the purpose of this law as an Aurentine public servant trained by a human spaceflight program to command, pilot, or serve as a crew member of a spacecraft
B) Astronauts are selected among any candidates who present their names, along with the appropriate forms, less than 30 days after the job offering is posted
C) Candidates must not have any history of violent or uncontrollable mental or physical disorder or a violent felony on their criminal record
D) Candidates may not be rejected on basis of sex, race, religion or any category that does not impede the ability or performance of the person
E) Selected candidates must finish the two-month training camp and pass a written test

Section IV: Security and Protection
A) All astronauts are to be trained in emergency situation management in case of incident onboard a spacecraft
B) Deliberately sabotaging a spacecraft is classified as terrorism [note: that is, if the PCC passes]
C) Accidentally disabling functions of a spacecraft leading to fatalities is classified as reckless endangerment [note: see above note]
D) Scientists and contractors found to be deliberately misleading ministry officials with the aim of receiving money from the government will be charged with the newly-created crime of fraud (class II felony) [note: see note above above note]
E) The Ministry of Transportation is tasked with investigating accidents and incidents onboard or involving spacecraft

Concluding that this act provides an adequate plan for scientific development in Aurentina,

Requires clauses IV-B, IV-C and IV-D to be adequately replaced in case of the repeal of the mentioned sections of the Provisional Criminal Code, [note: that is, if the PCC passes]

Hereby Passes the Research and Astronomy Improvement Act


I'll sponsor this. However, should the rainy day fund usage be tied solely to one cabinet member or prime minister?

The rainy day fund can be activated by the sitting MoRA or PM.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 24, 2013 1:18 pm

Anybody drafted Supreme Court legislation yet?
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Postby Wolfmanne » Fri May 24, 2013 1:20 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Anybody drafted Supreme Court legislation yet?

I will post it the moment I have access to a computer.
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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Fri May 24, 2013 1:21 pm

Wolfmanne wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Anybody drafted Supreme Court legislation yet?

I will post it the moment I have access to a computer.

Good. I want to be a Supreme Court justice.
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