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Cosara
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Postby Cosara » Wed May 08, 2013 9:11 am

The Sector Union wrote:I support capitalized healthcare with some regulation however. It does involve people's lives.

^This.
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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 9:13 am

Napkiraly wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
Just Monty Python. I suppose it would be for a christian or other such religious individual. To me its the accepted norm.

I am not religious in any way whatsoever.


I never said you did. I noticed what i can only describe as sarcasm.

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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 9:18 am

Khadgar wrote:
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I'm not i thought i was being rather sanguine about the whole life experience. I normally call it realism but call it what you will makes no difference to me. After all you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.


:lol2: Brilliant :lol2: Accepting the realities of the universe and ones own existence is worse than Nazism now? Blimey not really quite sure what to say to you knowing this?

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Postby Atra Mors » Wed May 08, 2013 9:21 am

I'm in full support, since it tends to generate competitions among companies to provide the latest up to date technology, etc. However, the government should be able to make defined regulations over the procedures carried out in the best interest of its citizens. SUch as, if an emergency care patient come in, they[the hospitals] has to accept them. Other than that, the company can make their own policies as long as it abides by the law.
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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 08, 2013 9:25 am

Altruistic Paladins wrote:
Khadgar wrote:
The wealthy work harder. That's it. Every one of those billionaires puts in 120 hour workweeks and the schlubs putting in a mere 80 a week at minimum wage deserve their starvation level budget.


What You Think You Are Saying:

"They're not Paris Hilton! They work 120-hour weeks to make those salaries!"

What We Hear:

"The only reason they have a hundred times more money than you is because they work a hundred times as hard!"
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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 9:26 am

Why have i got an advert at the side of my page that is telling me its time to learn Hebrew? Crazy!

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Postby Mavorpen » Wed May 08, 2013 9:37 am

Khadgar wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
I'm not i thought i was being rather sanguine about the whole life experience. I normally call it realism but call it what you will makes no difference to me. After all you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.

What an insult to National Socialists. Hipster nihilists are several times worse.
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Postby The Whispers » Wed May 08, 2013 9:38 am

NHS is all the capitalisation my healthcare needs.

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed May 08, 2013 10:46 am

Technopolis wrote:I honestly hope that you happen upon a spate of bad luck, lose everything and end up having to fall back on welfare to get your life back on track. Seems like that'd be the only thing that'd make you a bit less of a selfish twat.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed May 08, 2013 10:53 am

Mizrah wrote:What is "Capitalized Healthcare"?

no idea "capitalized" usually refers to a type of expense. for example purchasing an MRI machine would be "capitalized" expense, i buy a piece ofequipment that i will use for years. i write it off taxes over years. an "operational expense" would be the reoccuring expense of the tech running the machine, and the routine maintenance required to maintain and operate it.

so i am as lost as you are.
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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed May 08, 2013 10:57 am

Khadgar wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
I'm not i thought i was being rather sanguine about the whole life experience. I normally call it realism but call it what you will makes no difference to me. After all you come from nothing - you're going back to nothing. What have you lost? Nothing!

Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.


walter, the semi finals are on saturday.
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The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

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Postby Zottistan » Wed May 08, 2013 11:22 am

Gauntleted Fist wrote:
Zottistan wrote:Give me any possible example of somebody doing something for a reason other than feeling good or not feeling bad.

A sociopath integrating with society.

Almost always out to get something for themselves. Why else would they do it?


And even then, that's a ridiculously small minority of people.
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Postby Khadgar » Wed May 08, 2013 11:24 am

Ethel mermania wrote:
Khadgar wrote:Nihilists! Fuck me. I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos.


walter, the semi finals are on saturday.


Took long enough for someone to get that quote.

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Postby Napkiraly » Wed May 08, 2013 11:36 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
walter, the semi finals are on saturday.


Took long enough for someone to get that quote.

Man, I feel ashamed now.

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Postby Ethel mermania » Wed May 08, 2013 11:42 am

Khadgar wrote:
Ethel mermania wrote:
walter, the semi finals are on saturday.


Took long enough for someone to get that quote.


HEY!, i work cheap.

it is a great quote, one of these days i am going to go to a lebowski fest.
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--S. Huntington

The most fundamental problem of politics is not the control of wickedness but the limitation of righteousness. 

--H. Kissenger

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Postby Sociobiology » Wed May 08, 2013 1:41 pm

Lemanrussland wrote:
Risottia wrote:Not going to work.
Do you have any idea how much an efficient healthcare system (hence not the American one: more like a European one) costs?
Guess how much that would mean in sales taxes on those goods. Guess what would ensue: contraband of fatty foods, cigarettes and alcohol. Which means you'd also have to spend more money in crime fighting. So, no boost for the State coffers, but a nice boost for the Mob.

By the way, some kinds of fat and some kinds of alcoholic beverages, in some quantities, are actually beneficial for one's health (see the French paradox).

Also, it's not like risks factors are the only causes of poor health conditions.

Sales tax avoidance starts to spike past a 10 percent tax. Costs should be at least partially recouped through this kind of taxation.

direct wealth taxes are nice, and they encourage economic growth.
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Postby Sociobiology » Wed May 08, 2013 1:44 pm

United Paradisia wrote:We should make fat people, smokers and alcoholics have insurance or attend compulsory rehab/ exercise. Just like to drive you must have insurance.

you do realize fat people can eat a completely healthy diet and get a lot of exercise and still be fat. skinny people are just as likely to be unhealthy.
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Postby 4years » Wed May 08, 2013 1:46 pm

The Whispers wrote:NHS is all the capitalisation my healthcare needs.


Indeed.
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