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Postby Kouralia » Wed May 08, 2013 9:49 am

Wolfmanne wrote:The name National Guard makes no sense. It implies that it's more of a volunteer militia rather than a professional gendarmerie or paramilitary police force. Historically, a national guard has been a militia unit. France had the National Guard, the Spanish had the National Guard, Sri Lanka has their own (Sri Lanka National Guard), there was the White Guard in Finland to defend against the Soviet invasion and the United States has the National Guard, but all of them are militias which don't have an internal security role.

Internal Security Force Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Britcan (TR)

Preamble
The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: Formation
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: An Aurentinian Gendarmerie Academy shall also be established with the function of training officers.
1c: Also establishes specially trained sub-forces for special operations and riot control.
1d: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Aurentinian Gendarmerie or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1d: All Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers shall be accountable for their actions and subject to review by both the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Justice.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act in situations where which require the temporary deployment of Aurentinian Gendarmerie personnel or within jurisdictions that apply to the Aurentinian Gendarmerie.

Article 2: Jurisdiction and Deployment
2a: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
2b: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
2c: Herein also decrees that the Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall assist the Police, Emergency Medical Services and the Fire Service in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Article 3: Uniforms and Equipment
3a: All members of the Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall have three primary uniforms: Dress, Operational and Ceremonial.
3b: Operational uniforms shall consist of a standard red beret, black bulletproof vest and belt kit (both of which should not intrude into how the officer moves), a khaki green polo shirt and light khaki button shirt along with accompanying jersey and cargo pants as well as black combat boots.
3c: Mandating that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers on duty may carry the following equipment:
[*]One pair of handcuffs.
[*]One telescopic baton.
[*]One can of CS spray.
[*]One personal radio set.
[*]The badge of the Aurentinian Gendarmerie.
Additionally, it shall be mandated that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers shall have the minimum of one firearm per officer with spare ammunition as the officer sees fit.
3d: Mandating that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers use firearms that use the same calibre of ammunition as both the National Defense Force and the National Police Force. Officers may also use firearms seized from criminals and paramilitaries as long as they comply with safety regulations and are military grade or the equivalent.
3e: Herein forbids officers to use firearms which are temporarily seized from their owners or garishly decorated.
3f: Recommending that the Aurentinian Gendarmerie adopt a standardised vehicle for their respective tasks.
3g: Mandating that all non-combat vehicles carry a green and white livery with blue lights. Mandating that all combat vehicles carry a dark green livery with white letters and orange hazard lights.
3h: Allowing Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers to use non-combat and combat ground vehicles in operations.
3i: Allowing Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers the use of seized or captured non-combat and combat vehicles.


Where the PLEA(2013) is mentioned, maybe link to it? For ease of reading? viewtopic.php?p=14233997#p14233997
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Postby The Republic of Lanos » Wed May 08, 2013 9:50 am

Wolfmanne wrote:
The Republic of Lanos wrote:Why not place the force under the Justice ministry? Isn't that where the National Police is?

Why is the Police under the Justice ministry?

Wouldn't that be the logical choice for the police to be under the law enforcement ministry?

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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed May 08, 2013 9:51 am

The Republic of Lanos wrote:
Wolfmanne wrote:Why is the Police under the Justice ministry?

Wouldn't that be the logical choice for the police to be under the law enforcement ministry?

The role of a Justice ministry is primarily the handling of the judicial system, not the police force.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed May 08, 2013 10:00 am

The Senatorial Database has been established for your senators to provide their information etc. for the people's perusal. Senator Kourie (USLP) can be used as an example of how to write one.

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For those failure-children who don't look at the lobby or w/ever.
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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 08, 2013 10:02 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:
That would be a good way of doing it. Great idea.

Thanks, fixed. Can I count on your support then?
The Salary, Allowances and Pension of Senators Act, 2013
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal


Recognises that service to senate and this great nation is senators primary job and fulfil a vital task to this great nation. Furthermore, appreciates the amount of time and effort put in by the senators in this task, hence establishes following allowances and benefits to be made available to all active senators, establishing all costs associated with this bill to be mandatory spending for all governments. Salaries, allowances and benefits may be amended by order of senate however any changes will come into affect after six months.

Salaries and personal allowances: All senators will be entitled to basic salary of NS$400 per day in addition to attendance salary of NS$100 every day they attend meetings in senate. Furthermore, state will provide upon request of senator appropriate house to stay in with his family, ensuring all nessecery security arrangements to protect the senator, his family and his property provided their constituency is not within the capital.

Travel allowances: All senators will be entitled to allowance for travel cost, made from anywhere in the globe for purpose of attending a session of senate or a meeting of a Committee or for the purpose of attending to any other business connected with their duties as a senator, from their usual place of residence to the place where the session or the meeting is to be held or the other business is to be transacted and for the return journey from such place to senator's usual place of residence. This allowance will cover costs incurred by senator and senator's family, during aforementioned travels.

Free transit by railway and air: All senators will be entitled with one free, non transferable first or executive class pass which shall entitle senator alone to travel for free in any national train or in any national airlines, provided said journey is within national borders. This pass will be valid from start of senator's term to end of such term in office.

Health insurance: All senators shall be entitled to free medical insurance for themselves and their immediate family, which for purpose of this act shall be defined as "senator's parents, grand parents, spouse and children". While each senator will be responsible for arranging their own medical insurance, insurance company will be paid to by state on behalf of the senator.

Pension and after service benefits: All senators will be entitled to pension of NS$300 per day, unless they are impeached by senate or are proven guilty in court of law. After retirement, they will be entitled to full health insurance as stated above along with free travel by railway or airline in first class facility.


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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:02 am

Wolfmanne wrote:The name National Guard makes no sense. It implies that it's more of a volunteer militia rather than a professional gendarmerie or paramilitary police force. Historically, a national guard has been a militia unit. France had the National Guard, the Spanish had the National Guard, Sri Lanka has their own (Sri Lanka National Guard), there was the White Guard in Finland to defend against the Soviet invasion and the United States has the National Guard, but all of them are militias which don't have an internal security role.

Internal Security Force Bill (2013)
Co-drafted by: Costa Alegria and Wolfmanne || Urgency: High
Co-sponsors: Britcan (TR)

Preamble
The security of our nation is a top priority for the government and the Senate. Election to the Senate gives you the responsibility to ensure that you can hold the government to account in ensuring the safety and security of our people. However, it is not the responsibility of individual political parties to act as the judge, jury and executioner, for only multiple political parties and not just one can hold the government to account. Furthermore, we recognise that whether you support or oppose the Right to Bear Arms, in a time such as this, we need to reach a compromise until specific firearms legislation promoting or restricting the ownership of guns. In order to further the government's ability to ensure the security of this nation, we see the need for the creation of a government organisation to do just that, as evidenced by the 1st Festival of Republic, where armed right-wing paramilitaries are attempting to agitate left-wing paramilitaries into destabilising the nation.

Article 1: Formation
1a: In light of potential civil war and for use in a time of a national or regional emergency the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is to be established under the auspices of the Ministry of the Interior.
1b: An Aurentinian Gendarmerie Academy shall also be established with the function of training officers.
1c: Also establishes specially trained sub-forces for special operations and riot control.
1d: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall be organised into a series of Brigades consisting of a number of Regiments from different regions.
1e: In times of war, the Aurentinian Gendarmerie or individual Brigades and Regiments may be drafted by the National Defense Force to provide rear security, police the military and for national defense against external threats, based upon the threat to national security this war may have. Gendarmes are to be considered a part of the military and not civilians, however whilst the Aurentinian Gendarmerie is considered to be a military organisation, it does not come under the National Defense Force but the Ministry of the Interior, unless they have been drafted.
1d: All Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers shall be accountable for their actions and subject to review by both the Ministry of the Interior and the Ministry of Justice.
1f: Gendarmes shall have policing powers as established by the Policing and Law Enforcement Act in situations where which require the temporary deployment of Aurentinian Gendarmerie personnel or within jurisdictions that apply to the Aurentinian Gendarmerie.

Article 2: Jurisdiction and Deployment
2a: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall provide security of public institutions, ministries and courts, embassies and consulates international airports, national museums, nuclear power plants, riots & crowds control, publicly crowded events and our national borders.
2b: The Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall conduct high risk arrests, disaster response, SWAT operations, the suppression of internal armed conflicts and riots, the policing of areas without a sufficient amount of civilian police, to support local constabularies and counter-terrorism operations.
2c: Herein also decrees that the Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall assist the Police, Emergency Medical Services and the Fire Service in times of natural or man-made disaster.

Article 3: Uniforms and Equipment
3a: All members of the Aurentinian Gendarmerie shall have three primary uniforms: Dress, Operational and Ceremonial.
3b: Operational uniforms shall consist of a standard red beret, black bulletproof vest and belt kit (both of which should not intrude into how the officer moves), a khaki green polo shirt and light khaki button shirt along with accompanying jersey and cargo pants as well as black combat boots.
3c: Mandating that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers on duty may carry the following equipment:
[*]One pair of handcuffs.
[*]One telescopic baton.
[*]One can of CS spray.
[*]One personal radio set.
[*]The badge of the Aurentinian Gendarmerie.
Additionally, it shall be mandated that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers shall have the minimum of one firearm per officer with spare ammunition as the officer sees fit.
3d: Mandating that all Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers use firearms that use the same calibre of ammunition as both the National Defense Force and the National Police Force. Officers may also use firearms seized from criminals and paramilitaries as long as they comply with safety regulations and are military grade or the equivalent.
3e: Herein forbids officers to use firearms which are temporarily seized from their owners or garishly decorated.
3f: Recommending that the Aurentinian Gendarmerie adopt a standardised vehicle for their respective tasks.
3g: Mandating that all non-combat vehicles carry a green and white livery with blue lights. Mandating that all combat vehicles carry a dark green livery with white letters and orange hazard lights.
3h: Allowing Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers to use non-combat and combat ground vehicles in operations.
3i: Allowing Aurentinian Gendarmerie officers the use of seized or captured non-combat and combat vehicles.


What are you trying to say here, i am confused. You wrote the bill and now you disapprove?

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Postby Wolfmanne » Wed May 08, 2013 10:06 am

viewtopic.php?f=25&t=239509&p=14337238&hilit=internal+security+act#p14337238

Because it is now radically different and I have no idea why.
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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:12 am

Wolfmanne wrote:http://forum.nationstates.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=239509&p=14337238&hilit=internal+security+act#p14337238

Because it is now radically different and I have no idea why.


Oh i see. That's not good, i suppose you can change it back as you wrote a lot of it in the first place.

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed May 08, 2013 10:18 am

Ovisterra wrote:Yes, you can certainly count on it.

Thanks.
Anyone other takes, please... unless you guys want to continue work for free?
The Salary, Allowances and Pension of Senators Act, 2013
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal| Sponsors: Ovisterra, Rohamistan, Imperiatom, Hathradic States, DuThaal Craftworld


Recognises that service to senate and this great nation is senators primary job and fulfil a vital task to this great nation. Furthermore, appreciates the amount of time and effort put in by the senators in this task, hence establishes following allowances and benefits to be made available to all active senators, establishing all costs associated with this bill to be mandatory spending for all governments. Salaries, allowances and benefits may be amended by order of senate however any changes will come into affect after six months.

Salaries and personal allowances: All senators will be entitled to basic salary of NS$400 per day in addition to attendance salary of NS$100 every day they attend meetings in senate. Furthermore, state will provide upon request of senator appropriate house to stay in with his family, ensuring all nessecery security arrangements to protect the senator, his family and his property provided their constituency is not within the capital.

Travel allowances: All senators will be entitled to allowance for travel cost, made from anywhere in the globe for purpose of attending a session of senate or a meeting of a Committee or for the purpose of attending to any other business connected with their duties as a senator, from their usual place of residence to the place where the session or the meeting is to be held or the other business is to be transacted and for the return journey from such place to senator's usual place of residence. This allowance will cover costs incurred by senator and senator's family, during aforementioned travels.

Free transit by railway and air: All senators will be entitled with one free, non transferable first or executive class pass which shall entitle senator alone to travel for free in any national train or in any national airlines, provided said journey is within national borders. This pass will be valid from start of senator's term to end of such term in office.

Health insurance: All senators shall be entitled to free medical insurance for themselves and their immediate family, which for purpose of this act shall be defined as "senator's parents, grand parents, spouse and children". While each senator will be responsible for arranging their own medical insurance, insurance company will be paid to by state on behalf of the senator.

Pension and after service benefits: All senators will be entitled to pension of NS$300 per day, unless they are impeached by senate or are proven guilty in court of law. After retirement, they will be entitled to full health insurance as stated above along with free travel by railway or airline in first class facility.
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Postby Rohamistan » Wed May 08, 2013 10:19 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:Yes, you can certainly count on it.

Thanks.
Anyone other takes, please... unless you guys want to continue work for free?
The Salary, Allowances and Pension of Senators Act, 2013
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal


Recognises that service to senate and this great nation is senators primary job and fulfil a vital task to this great nation. Furthermore, appreciates the amount of time and effort put in by the senators in this task, hence establishes following allowances and benefits to be made available to all active senators, establishing all costs associated with this bill to be mandatory spending for all governments. Salaries, allowances and benefits may be amended by order of senate however any changes will come into affect after six months.

Salaries and personal allowances: All senators will be entitled to basic salary of NS$400 per day in addition to attendance salary of NS$100 every day they attend meetings in senate. Furthermore, state will provide upon request of senator appropriate house to stay in with his family, ensuring all nessecery security arrangements to protect the senator, his family and his property provided their constituency is not within the capital.

Travel allowances: All senators will be entitled to allowance for travel cost, made from anywhere in the globe for purpose of attending a session of senate or a meeting of a Committee or for the purpose of attending to any other business connected with their duties as a senator, from their usual place of residence to the place where the session or the meeting is to be held or the other business is to be transacted and for the return journey from such place to senator's usual place of residence. This allowance will cover costs incurred by senator and senator's family, during aforementioned travels.

Free transit by railway and air: All senators will be entitled with one free, non transferable first or executive class pass which shall entitle senator alone to travel for free in any national train or in any national airlines, provided said journey is within national borders. This pass will be valid from start of senator's term to end of such term in office.

Health insurance: All senators shall be entitled to free medical insurance for themselves and their immediate family, which for purpose of this act shall be defined as "senator's parents, grand parents, spouse and children". While each senator will be responsible for arranging their own medical insurance, insurance company will be paid to by state on behalf of the senator.

Pension and after service benefits: All senators will be entitled to pension of NS$300 per day, unless they are impeached by senate or are proven guilty in court of law. After retirement, they will be entitled to full health insurance as stated above along with free travel by railway or airline in first class facility.


I will support this act.
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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:20 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Ovisterra wrote:Yes, you can certainly count on it.

Thanks.
Anyone other takes, please... unless you guys want to continue work for free?
The Salary, Allowances and Pension of Senators Act, 2013
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal


Recognises that service to senate and this great nation is senators primary job and fulfil a vital task to this great nation. Furthermore, appreciates the amount of time and effort put in by the senators in this task, hence establishes following allowances and benefits to be made available to all active senators, establishing all costs associated with this bill to be mandatory spending for all governments. Salaries, allowances and benefits may be amended by order of senate however any changes will come into affect after six months.

Salaries and personal allowances: All senators will be entitled to basic salary of NS$400 per day in addition to attendance salary of NS$100 every day they attend meetings in senate. Furthermore, state will provide upon request of senator appropriate house to stay in with his family, ensuring all nessecery security arrangements to protect the senator, his family and his property provided their constituency is not within the capital.

Travel allowances: All senators will be entitled to allowance for travel cost, made from anywhere in the globe for purpose of attending a session of senate or a meeting of a Committee or for the purpose of attending to any other business connected with their duties as a senator, from their usual place of residence to the place where the session or the meeting is to be held or the other business is to be transacted and for the return journey from such place to senator's usual place of residence. This allowance will cover costs incurred by senator and senator's family, during aforementioned travels.

Free transit by railway and air: All senators will be entitled with one free, non transferable first or executive class pass which shall entitle senator alone to travel for free in any national train or in any national airlines, provided said journey is within national borders. This pass will be valid from start of senator's term to end of such term in office.

Health insurance: All senators shall be entitled to free medical insurance for themselves and their immediate family, which for purpose of this act shall be defined as "senator's parents, grand parents, spouse and children". While each senator will be responsible for arranging their own medical insurance, insurance company will be paid to by state on behalf of the senator.

Pension and after service benefits: All senators will be entitled to pension of NS$300 per day, unless they are impeached by senate or are proven guilty in court of law. After retirement, they will be entitled to full health insurance as stated above along with free travel by railway or airline in first class facility.



What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed May 08, 2013 10:22 am

Rohamistan wrote:I will support this act.

Can I add you as sponsor please?

Imperiatom wrote:What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

I thought that would be covered under travel allowance, where state will pay for travel costs to travel to senate.
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Postby Kouralia » Wed May 08, 2013 10:23 am

Imperiatom wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Thanks.
Anyone other takes, please... unless you guys want to continue work for free?
The Salary, Allowances and Pension of Senators Act, 2013
Urgency: High| Drafted by: Great Nepal


Recognises that service to senate and this great nation is senators primary job and fulfil a vital task to this great nation. Furthermore, appreciates the amount of time and effort put in by the senators in this task, hence establishes following allowances and benefits to be made available to all active senators, establishing all costs associated with this bill to be mandatory spending for all governments. Salaries, allowances and benefits may be amended by order of senate however any changes will come into affect after six months.

Salaries and personal allowances: All senators will be entitled to basic salary of NS$400 per day in addition to attendance salary of NS$100 every day they attend meetings in senate. Furthermore, state will provide upon request of senator appropriate house to stay in with his family, ensuring all nessecery security arrangements to protect the senator, his family and his property provided their constituency is not within the capital.

Travel allowances: All senators will be entitled to allowance for travel cost, made from anywhere in the globe for purpose of attending a session of senate or a meeting of a Committee or for the purpose of attending to any other business connected with their duties as a senator, from their usual place of residence to the place where the session or the meeting is to be held or the other business is to be transacted and for the return journey from such place to senator's usual place of residence. This allowance will cover costs incurred by senator and senator's family, during aforementioned travels.

Free transit by railway and air: All senators will be entitled with one free, non transferable first or executive class pass which shall entitle senator alone to travel for free in any national train or in any national airlines, provided said journey is within national borders. This pass will be valid from start of senator's term to end of such term in office.

Health insurance: All senators shall be entitled to free medical insurance for themselves and their immediate family, which for purpose of this act shall be defined as "senator's parents, grand parents, spouse and children". While each senator will be responsible for arranging their own medical insurance, insurance company will be paid to by state on behalf of the senator.

Pension and after service benefits: All senators will be entitled to pension of NS$300 per day, unless they are impeached by senate or are proven guilty in court of law. After retirement, they will be entitled to full health insurance as stated above along with free travel by railway or airline in first class facility.



What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

Get your own car, bike or shoes! Don't steal the money of the people to swan about in some souped-up wanker-car! :<
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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 08, 2013 10:25 am

Kouralia wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:

What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

Get your own car, bike or shoes! Don't steal the money of the people to swan about in some souped-up wanker-car! :<



Can I use my travel allowance to buy a senatorial one of these?
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Postby Rohamistan » Wed May 08, 2013 10:25 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Rohamistan wrote:I will support this act.

Can I add you as sponsor please?

Imperiatom wrote:What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

I thought that would be covered under travel allowance, where state will pay for travel costs to travel to senate.


Yes.
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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:26 am

Great Nepal wrote:
Rohamistan wrote:I will support this act.

Can I add you as sponsor please?

Imperiatom wrote:What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

I thought that would be covered under travel allowance, where state will pay for travel costs to travel to senate.


A car makes the process simpler.

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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:28 am

Kouralia wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:

What about the use of a senatorial car when in the capital?

Get your own car, bike or shoes! Don't steal the money of the people to swan about in some souped-up wanker-car! :<



Hey its wankar!

I will... off the state.

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Postby Britcan » Wed May 08, 2013 10:28 am

Imperiatom wrote:
Great Nepal wrote:Can I add you as sponsor please?


I thought that would be covered under travel allowance, where state will pay for travel costs to travel to senate.


A car makes the process simpler.

I don't think we should just be giving senators cars.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:28 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Get your own car, bike or shoes! Don't steal the money of the people to swan about in some souped-up wanker-car! :<



Can I use my travel allowance to buy a senatorial one of these?


:lol2: Why?

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 08, 2013 10:30 am



Because it's a sexy hunk of metal. Also it'd give me political cred.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

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Postby Britcan » Wed May 08, 2013 10:31 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Kouralia wrote:Get your own car, bike or shoes! Don't steal the money of the people to swan about in some souped-up wanker-car! :<



Can I use my travel allowance to buy a senatorial one of these?

Only if you paint flames on it and add a TR sticker.

This nation should not be taken to be representative of my real-life views, nor should any of the nonsense I posted on here as a teenager.

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Postby Redernia » Wed May 08, 2013 10:34 am

*Walks in naked*

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Postby Ovisterra » Wed May 08, 2013 10:34 am

Britcan wrote:

Only if you paint flames on it and add a TR sticker.


I was gonna paint it fluorescent orange with with the TR logo on a flag trailing behind, but your idea is cool too.
Removing the text from people's sigs doesn't make it any less true. I stand with Yalta.

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Postby Imperiatom » Wed May 08, 2013 10:34 am

Ovisterra wrote:
Imperiatom wrote:
:lol2: Why?


Because it's a sexy hunk of metal. Also it'd give me political cred.


Interesting opinion. I think most people would laugh at you if they saw you coming down the street on that!

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Postby Great Nepal » Wed May 08, 2013 10:34 am

Rohamistan wrote:Yes.

Thanks.

Imperiatom wrote:A car makes the process simpler.

I suppose if you buy car for primary purpose for travel to and from senate, you could get it financed as per travel allowance.


Of course... I myself plan to buy one of these.
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