Hey everyone, let's piss off the Chinese!

[Lackadaisical2]

China is just acting pissed off. They knew that the US was going to sell arms to Taiwan and they know there is nothing they can do about it. However, the arms sale is largely symbolic as if China really wanted to, they could invade and occupy Taiwan with ease. They are just making noise because the US is interfering in their regional affairs and they don't like it.

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

Its a bit different, considering the Taiwanese have de facto, and to an extent de jure independence from the Mainland.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

China is just acting pissed off. They knew that the US was going to sell arms to Taiwan and they know there is nothing they can do about it. However, the arms sale is largely symbolic as if China really wanted to, they could invade and occupy Taiwan with ease. They are just making noise because the US is interfering in their regional affairs and they don't like it.

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

If they can find out where US and A is on world map in order to get independence...

[Tharra]

Personally, I consider the PRC to be nothing but a joke on the international stage.
Their economy is heavily dependent on the (failing) American market, which, as stated in this thread, purchases its inferior goods and sets the value of its currency, which really has no market value anyway, considering it's not only dependent on the American dollar to assess its worth, but also is kept artificially weak by the Chinese government. Even their military is subpar, with their expenditures only pegged at $20 billion more than France and the UK, and greatly dwarfed by the budget in the USA (by over $500 billion).
IMO, at the rapid rate of industrialization they are experiencing, their economy is modernizing and expanding far too fast for its own good. If the bubble were to ever burst, it would be wreck the entire country, far more devastatingly than any economic collapse in a more stable and established global power (and considering the recent instability in the global market, that isn't too radical of an assumption).
And, let's face it, for a supposedly "atheist" country, the government of the PRC has immensely backward social policies and attitudes. Not to mention ruinous environmental policies that will take their toll on the country in only a matter of time.
Essentially, I see the PRC as a self destructive and unstable construct that is rapidly moving towards its own demise.

Now India having very decent prospects for economic growth and strength in the next two decades, that's another story...

[Urstania]

Every now and then governments turn up and heat a bit to help perpetuate distrust and hate amougst the people which in turn creates fear (possably rascism) helping to justify wars and control the people. dont buy into thier shit

[Anime Daisuki]

Maybe they should, but somehow I don't think that'll turn out so well. Also, i'd hardly say that a mjaority of Texans and Alaskans want indepedance from the US. Not nearly on the same level as the Taiwanese.

What they do have is a ton of money. It would be easy to put that money to work by supporting pro-secession groups, whether Alaskan, Texan, or many of the pro-Mexico Latino groups in the US. It's not going to succeed overnight, but 10 or 20 years down the road...

[Tharra]

What they do have is a ton of money.

Coupled with a weak currency. You be the judge.

[Anime Daisuki]

Also don't overestimate the cohesion of the United States, esp. in the south, when the population make-up is changing so rapidly. Even without doing anything, in 30 years Southern United States is going to be very pro-Mexico.

[Israslovakahzerbajan]

Maybe they should, but somehow I don't think that'll turn out so well. Also, i'd hardly say that a mjaority of Texans and Alaskans want indepedance from the US. Not nearly on the same level as the Taiwanese.

What they do have is a ton of money. It would be easy to put that money to work by supporting pro-secession groups, whether Alaskan, Texan, or many of the pro-Mexico Latino groups in the US. It's not going to succeed overnight, but 10 or 20 years down the road...

Yo no quiero unir con Texas, mantenga!
I also doubt Mexico wants the US, it has a SELF-DEFENCE policy.

[Moreau Catholic High]

We will never pay off our debts, which they own, if they get too rough with us.

What are they going do? Repo our country? How? They can't even invade a small island off their coast, how the hell are they going to invade the worlds greatest naval, air, and land power that's several thousand miles away? Who is going to make us pay them?

They could certainly limit our ability to influence overseas events drastically if it's clear we're not going to pay up. They could easily obstruct us by causing our credit rating to go down and simply use their influence to counter ours, especially in places like Africa.

Oh my god, they'll attract more starving Ethiopians than us! What will we ever do!?

This is Earin by the way, I accidentally posted on my puppet.

You are clearly not aware of the natural resources sitting in Africa, which the Chinese could block our access to, given their positive relations with many African nations.

[Hegstoria]

We will never pay off our debts, which they own, if they get too rough with us.

What are they going do? Repo our country? How? They can't even invade a small island off their coast, how the hell are they going to invade the worlds greatest naval, air, and land power that's several thousand miles away? Who is going to make us pay them?

They could certainly limit our ability to influence overseas events drastically if it's clear we're not going to pay up. They could easily obstruct us by causing our credit rating to go down and simply use their influence to counter ours, especially in places like Africa.

Oh my god, they'll attract more starving Ethiopians than us! What will we ever do!?

This is Earin by the way, I accidentally posted on my puppet.

You are clearly not aware of the natural resources sitting in Africa, which the Chinese could block our access to, given their positive relations with many African nations.

I completely agree, they have complete control over the oil fields in the Sudan.

[Lackadaisical2]

We will never pay off our debts, which they own, if they get too rough with us.

What are they going do? Repo our country? How? They can't even invade a small island off their coast, how the hell are they going to invade the worlds greatest naval, air, and land power that's several thousand miles away? Who is going to make us pay them?

They could certainly limit our ability to influence overseas events drastically if it's clear we're not going to pay up. They could easily obstruct us by causing our credit rating to go down and simply use their influence to counter ours, especially in places like Africa.

Oh my god, they'll attract more starving Ethiopians than us! What will we ever do!?

This is Earin by the way, I accidentally posted on my puppet.

You are clearly not aware of the natural resources sitting in Africa, which the Chinese could block our access to, given their positive relations with many African nations.

They're pretty much buying up all the resources from those places anyway, but if they did move to actually block our access to them, wait to see a liberation somewhere in Africa soon there after.

[Fanaglia]

So after attacks on their policies concerning censorship and a sale of $6.4 billion in weapons to Taiwan, China is less than happy with the US.

What does NSG think - Are they right to be pissed? Was it a good idea to get them all hot and bothered? Will anything come of this, or will it just sort of blow over like it usually does?

I for one, consider myself relatively prepared should this happen.

Note to Self: Pick up set of Power Armor, Reservation to Vault.... 101 sounds kind of OK, Laser Based Weapon, and Fawkes.

Karma too low for Fawkes - going with Clover:

[JJ Place]

So after attacks on their policies concerning censorship and a sale of $6.4 billion in weapons to Taiwan, China is less than happy with the US.

What does NSG think - Are they right to be pissed? Was it a good idea to get them all hot and bothered? Will anything come of this, or will it just sort of blow over like it usually does?

I for one, consider myself relatively prepared should this happen.

Note to Self: Pick up set of Power Armor, Reservation to Vault.... 101 sounds kind of OK, Laser Based Weapon, and Fawkes.

Karma too low for Fawkes - going with Clover:

Ah, I always go for the accual Hero path, which entails both perfect Karma and perfect actions. Clover died in my world when I invaded the Slaver Town and liberated the remaining slaves. Fawkes is nearly invicible at level 30, carries an awsome weapon, and is 10 feet tall.

[United Russian State]

You already did. XD

Your messing up it's peaceful unification plans, and I thin they have right to be piss off at America. Even more so because how much they help America.

[Panzerjaeger]

We will never pay off our debts, which they own, if they get too rough with us.

What are they going do? Repo our country? How? They can't even invade a small island off their coast, how the hell are they going to invade the worlds greatest naval, air, and land power that's several thousand miles away? Who is going to make us pay them?

Pretty much this. The PRC is a joke who can't even take back its "own" territory who the hell cares what the PRC does they can't enforce it with any conviction. Sabre rattling is the best they can do and will ever be able to do in the foreseeable future.

[New Azura]

China's got plenty of troops to defeat us; just not a way to get them over here.

"Oh, hey! Here comes the Chinese Army!"

"Throw rocks at their boat."

"Oh, hey! There goes the Chinese Army!"

[Brogavia]

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

Texans and Alaskans have better taste in guns than what the Chinese can offer.

[Virabia]

They're all bad drivers?!?! they mad yet

[Lackadaisical2]

Their all bad drivers?!?! they mad yet

Maybe, but you also just insulted the English language there..

[Greed and Death]

China is just acting pissed off. They knew that the US was going to sell arms to Taiwan and they know there is nothing they can do about it. However, the arms sale is largely symbolic as if China really wanted to, they could invade and occupy Taiwan with ease. They are just making noise because the US is interfering in their regional affairs and they don't like it.

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

I would relish the chance to buy Chinese weapons.

[Greed and Death]

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

Texans and Alaskans have better taste in guns than what the Chinese can offer.

yeah but the tanks and aircraft would be nice.

[Brogavia]

Maybe the Chinese should sell arms to Texas or Alaska peeps who want independence from the United States.

Texans and Alaskans have better taste in guns than what the Chinese can offer.

yeah but the tanks and aircraft would be nice.

I'd feel safer with a bomb strapped to my chest than in a Chinese jet fighter.

Seriously, its a knock off of Russian technology. It would probably catch fire if I looked at it wrong.

[Moreau Catholic High]

We will never pay off our debts, which they own, if they get too rough with us.

What are they going do? Repo our country? How? They can't even invade a small island off their coast, how the hell are they going to invade the worlds greatest naval, air, and land power that's several thousand miles away? Who is going to make us pay them?

They could certainly limit our ability to influence overseas events drastically if it's clear we're not going to pay up. They could easily obstruct us by causing our credit rating to go down and simply use their influence to counter ours, especially in places like Africa.

Oh my god, they'll attract more starving Ethiopians than us! What will we ever do!?

This is Earin by the way, I accidentally posted on my puppet.

You are clearly not aware of the natural resources sitting in Africa, which the Chinese could block our access to, given their positive relations with many African nations.

They're pretty much buying up all the resources from those places anyway, but if they did move to actually block our access to them, wait to see a liberation somewhere in Africa soon there after.

I'd rather we not have to use "liberation movements" to obtain access to resources. It's too messy.

[The Romulan Republic]

So after attacks on their policies concerning censorship and a sale of $6.4 billion in weapons to Taiwan, China is less than happy with the US.

What does NSG think - Are they right to be pissed? Was it a good idea to get them all hot and bothered? Will anything come of this, or will it just sort of blow over like it usually does?

I for one, consider myself relatively prepared should this happen.

Yeah, China's not going to go to war with a massive trading partner who has nuclear weapons over this. They'll act all upset about it, and then like you said, it will blow over.

I don't know about giving Taiwan weapons, but I'm completely behind attacks on their censorship.

[Rolamec]

Hmm...Obama tries to become extra friendly with the Chinese, they pretty much tell him to stick it. So now they are pissed because we decided to sell some weapons to Taiwan? Tough crap.

And no, there won't be a war with China, they need our goods, we need theirs