Which God?

[Straughn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

[Straughn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

That's actually true of all women, you know -- that we become virgins again after penetration. As long as we don't get too stretched out from passing babies and whatnot, we do eventually get our virginity back. Of course, we have to go a long time without sex for that to happen, but it does. So all anyone has to do is go find 70+ women who are either virgins or nuns or have just been really damned fed up with dudes for 7+ years.

What if it's halting your virginity WITH a grape?
And i don't infer Barney or Grape Ape.

[Muravyets]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

I don't know if being able to penetrate a grape is really something you should be bragging about.

[Milks Empire]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

I don't know if being able to penetrate a grape is really something you should be bragging about.

I'd penetrate grapes... with my teeth.

[Imsogone]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

gRapist.

[Straughn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

I don't know if being able to penetrate a grape is really something you should be bragging about.

Gotta have goals. *shrug*
I don't even know if could make the whole 72, or if i'd fall asleep somewhere along the line.

[Straughn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

gRapist.

Win?

[Sidh Ohn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

LOL! I'm glad someone agrees with me! Sexually inexperienced girls remind me of being a teenager, and awkward confrontations in the backseat of a car. I really don’t want to relive that when I die.

Seconded I suppose they could always go with Halla instead, who promises them a seedy dive filled with sluts...

All praise Halla!

Just watch out though ; Hastur hangs out in that neighborhood...

[Sidh Ohn]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

It's my extremely biassed opinion that grapes were just a metaphor for the nubile nipples and clitori of multiple young ladies.

Those sick perves...oh how I envy their afterlife of depravity...

[Callisdrun]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

As it turns out, it's grapes, not virgins.

http://channel.nationalgeographic.com/e ... 6/Overview

It´s virgins, dear, the Huris to be exact, and they become virgin again after penetrating - who do you think would be interested in grapes ?

No, it's grapes. The tapestries and the accenting marks of the language make a persuasive argument about grapes, not so much "virgins".
That's not to say i wouldn't penetrate 72 grapes if someone were kind enough to hold them for me.

It's my extremely biassed opinion that grapes were just a metaphor for the nubile nipples and clitori of multiple young ladies.

Those sick perves...oh how I envy their afterlife of depravity...

It wouldn't be. They cut off the clitoris over there.


Yes, I know, unfair. It's a really tasteless joke.

Still, who the fuck would want 72 virgins?

[Muravyets]

It wouldn't be. They cut off the clitoris over there.


Yes, I know, unfair. It's a really tasteless joke.

Still, who the fuck would want 72 virgins?

Someone who doesn't know any better?

[UnhealthyTruthseeker]

1. Because you said it.

That's impressive reasoning there.

[Callisdrun]

It wouldn't be. They cut off the clitoris over there.


Yes, I know, unfair. It's a really tasteless joke.

Still, who the fuck would want 72 virgins?

Someone who doesn't know any better?

I can only assume so. Poor fuckers.

[Callisdrun]

1. Because you said it.

That's impressive reasoning there.

I'm rather fond of it, yes.

[Muravyets]

It wouldn't be. They cut off the clitoris over there.


Yes, I know, unfair. It's a really tasteless joke.

Still, who the fuck would want 72 virgins?

Someone who doesn't know any better?

I can only assume so. Poor fuckers.

In more ways than one.

[Nordicus]

Another thing, they may be statistics, but what were the chances that he was going to be related to someone that goes to my church? Those are some pretty impossible statistics.

The chances of that happening to a person who was related to someone from your church? Approximately: [(Number of people related to members of your church) * (average number of cases of that condition causing hospitalization and recovery globally within an average human lifespan)] / (Total global population); probably pretty low, though if it's a common condition and you go to a mega-church of a religion which strongly encourages large families...

The chances of that happening to someone who was related to a church-going person who would spread the story around? Quite a lot more likely, given the sheer number of church-going (or equivalent) people on the planet.

Lastly, you are being hypocritical. You say that I need proof and resources for my claims, and yet you didn't have one for yours?

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. If I claim that I had a turkey sandwich for lunch, that isn't going to require any proof... it's a very ordinary claim. Saying that God personally intervened to keep a relative alive for a few minutes so you could say goodbye, on the other hand, is a lot harder to believe than that family member hanging on through force of will, particularly given that similar things happen for non-Christians.

It was like watching Donnie Darko (which I never saw) it makes you feel weird

To say every prayer answered is a coincidence is stupid. If they were really coincidences, the majority of them wouldn't have happened.

That's the thing, though... most prayers do go unanswered.

lets think for a minute that there is beyond all doubt a God, scientifically proven and all

Or let's not, since, you know, there isn't even a shred of scientific evidence for God that I've ever heard of. ("I don't know how else it could have happened, so it must be God," doesn't count. That's not scientific.)

1. Lâ ilâha illallâh, Muḥammadun rasûlullâh. I don't believe it, and I don't accept it as doctrine. I believe there are many gods. Whilst Muhammed may indeed have been a prophet of the Abrahamic god, I do not hold that god to be the only one. Thus, I cannot accept the first pillar.

Do you have some sort of logical basis for this...?

Do you have some sort of logical basis for monotheism? Sorry, but you left yourself open for that one.

Perhaps it's not that He is silent, but that we are too noisy. The bigger you are, the smaller God gets - metaphorically speaking.

And yet, it would be easily rectified if he would speak directly to humans like he is claimed to have done in the olden days. Unless, of course, he didn't really speak to anyone, which would mean that the Bible was most likely lying (or, at the very least, is so extremely metaphorical that none of it can be trusted as being literal).

That's more than ridiculous.

Coming from the guy who has a patched-together political idea made from mutually-incompatible pieces of three different political and economic systems which you apparently only skimmed over when researching?

The Christian life is one of the hardest lives (if not the hardest) to live because we suffer for our faith.

Yes, such suffering you guys must feel. After all, Christianity is the dominant religion in the United States, where you have no significant discrimination against your religion, and can safely assume that most people you meet will be of the same core religious beliefs as you, and where nearly every federal Congressman (not to mention so many of the Presidents) share your religious views. Oh, woe is you!

And everyone mocks your faith and is suspicious of you!--oh, wait, no, that's the Mormons and Muslims (among others). Oh, well, a few states still have sections of their constitutions that (though unenforceable) claim to prevent you from holding office due to your religious views!--oh, wait, nope again, that's atheists. Oh, oh, but your people have been brutally butchered in the past!--er, wait, no, your people often did the butchering in the past...

Give it a rest. It's not the hard life. You guys don't have it any significantly worse than anybody else; hell, there's no shortage of people who would gladly trade their lots in life for what you are complaining about.

1066 CE

I've never liked the BCE/CE dating. In my opinion, if they were looking for something to use as an alternative to the Christian dating system, then they should have, you know, picked something else to use as the basis for the dates rather than slapping a new name on the same system. I know a lot of things in history don't have well-defined dates on which they began or ended, but you can't tell me that in all of known human history, there isn't even a single event that is both significant and reasonably well-defined enough to have been used as an alternative.

a gay cant be moral

Do you have a list of random remarks that you pull these things from?

from my brain

Ah, I guess that explains a lot about your contributions to this thread. Or, rather, your lack thereof.
Seriously, I think it's safe to say you aren't impressing anyone with the small-minded bigotry you've been posting in here.

The fact that the pilgrims left the "hedonistic" society of Europe to found their own "Christian" nation (which by the way - is in no way similar to the Christianity seen today), is not really debatable. Even secular historians support this, and therefore the dominance of organized Christianity in the Western hemisphere is slightly obvious.

However, the Pilgrims weren't even the first English colonists of the Americas, let alone the first European colonists. Heck, Georgia was originally founded from men released from debtor's prisons to work at the colony; I highly doubt that anyone would be able to make a strong case of it being significantly religious, but it is also one of the the original colonies, just like Massachusetts.

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

I believe the common joke is "Wouldn't you rather have a bunch of girls who know what they're doing?"

[Coffin-Breathe]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

I believe the common joke is "Wouldn't you rather have a bunch of girls who know what they're doing?"

I wouldn´t care to much, as long as they´re nice ones...and quick learners.

[Karsol]

My penis shall be your god, for it heralds a new age of eternal bliss and enlightenment.

[Helgrin]

My penis shall be your god, for it heralds a new age of eternal bliss and enlightenment.

Um...no thanks.

[The Alma Mater]

My penis shall be your god, for it heralds a new age of eternal bliss and enlightenment.

*covers it with gold*
*then seperates it from you body to put it on an altar to worship*

[Callisdrun]

I've never liked the BCE/CE dating. In my opinion, if they were looking for something to use as an alternative to the Christian dating system, then they should have, you know, picked something else to use as the basis for the dates rather than slapping a new name on the same system. I know a lot of things in history don't have well-defined dates on which they began or ended, but you can't tell me that in all of known human history, there isn't even a single event that is both significant and reasonably well-defined enough to have been used as an alternative.

Read the fucking thread. I explained my position on this already. It's not the date I object to but the terminology.

[Bottle]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

I believe the common joke is "Wouldn't you rather have a bunch of girls who know what they're doing?"

I wouldn´t care to much, as long as they´re nice ones...and quick learners.

Boy, you all make it sound like so much fun to be a girl.

[Callisdrun]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

I believe the common joke is "Wouldn't you rather have a bunch of girls who know what they're doing?"

I wouldn´t care to much, as long as they´re nice ones...and quick learners.

Boy, you all make it sound like so much fun to be a girl.

I just think the emphasis placed on virginity in the minds of some is a bit silly. All else being equal, I think I'd rather be with a person who's had some experience.

[Abdju]

I've never liked the BCE/CE dating. In my opinion, if they were looking for something to use as an alternative to the Christian dating system, then they should have, you know, picked something else to use as the basis for the dates rather than slapping a new name on the same system. I know a lot of things in history don't have well-defined dates on which they began or ended, but you can't tell me that in all of known human history, there isn't even a single event that is both significant and reasonably well-defined enough to have been used as an alternative.

Read the fucking thread. I explained my position on this already. It's not the date I object to but the terminology.

Agreed. The date itself lost religious connotations a long time ago, especially when non-Christian countries adopted it for administrative efficiency. It is literally a common system, so CE (Common Era) is simply an accurate and natural term that everyone can agree on. 2010 isn't "Anno Domini", it's just a common, shared numerical reference to this year that most people adopt to discuss times and dates.

[Bottle]

Depending on what you prefer for afterlife (severe lifelong worshipping required), Allah seems to offer some pretty good things (paradise filled with virgins, aso)

Nobody's ever been able to adequately explain why I should want that.

I believe the common joke is "Wouldn't you rather have a bunch of girls who know what they're doing?"

I wouldn´t care to much, as long as they´re nice ones...and quick learners.

Boy, you all make it sound like so much fun to be a girl.

I just think the emphasis placed on virginity in the minds of some is a bit silly. All else being equal, I think I'd rather be with a person who's had some experience.

I'd rather not go to a "Heaven" where they hand out sex partners as if they were bunches of grapes.