Israel-Palestine conflict

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

If Gazans want self determination, they get the whole shebang. They don't get to choose which parts they want self determination. Defense, keeping the order, enforcing law is ALL their responsibility. Israel shouldn't be left holding the bag. Israel was right to disengage. Had Israel kept army in Gaza, can you imagine the outrage and outcry? "See they are not willing to give back Gaza! They are trying to keep control over the area! Oppression, oppression!"

Come on, you do see that, don't you?

As I recall Israeli forces are standing near the Gaza border and shoot protesters, or severely wounding them. Armies these days need to be put on a leash

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

[Al Meajilia]

If Gazans want self determination, they get the whole shebang. They don't get to choose which parts they want self determination. Defense, keeping the order, enforcing law is ALL their responsibility. Israel shouldn't be left holding the bag. Israel was right to disengage. Had Israel kept army in Gaza, can you imagine the outrage and outcry? "See they are not willing to give back Gaza! They are trying to keep control over the area! Oppression, oppression!"

Come on, you do see that, don't you?

Does it really matter who is outraged over what? It's not like Israel gives a shit.

You sir are the most sensible person here.

[DogDoo 7]

I had you pegged as a Hertzliya/Ramat HaSharon resident but that's literally like 14 km from the checkpoint.

Just east of Hertzliya, lol. I'm part of the monster that is Hod Hasharon/Kfar Saba/Ra'anana.

So literally 10 minutes from my friend's house in Azzun. Hell, you could probably ride a bicycle to the Qalqilya Zoo (and see the world's most depressed lion

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

If Gazans want self determination, they get the whole shebang. They don't get to choose which parts they want self determination. Defense, keeping the order, enforcing law is ALL their responsibility. Israel shouldn't be left holding the bag. Israel was right to disengage. Had Israel kept army in Gaza, can you imagine the outrage and outcry? "See they are not willing to give back Gaza! They are trying to keep control over the area! Oppression, oppression!"

Come on, you do see that, don't you?

Does it really matter who is outraged over what? It's not like Israel gives a shit.

??? So Israel gives up Gaza, and you still claim that Israel doesn't give a shit. Now I think if Israel gives up WB, you are still going to claim that Israel doesn't give a shit. Am I right?

[Regnum Dominae]

There are no settlements and Israeli military bases left in Gaza. Ergo, Gazans can build whatever they want in those lands now. They choose not to.

Israel maintains a 300 meter buffer zone next to the wall, which effectively prevents Gazans from farming 9% of their land

That would mean that gaza is only 3.3km wide. It is at least twice that.

[Chinese Regions]

How do we no you aren't a Jew (or rather Israelite)

Genetically proven.

Bible is not a source and being Taboo only means it was frowned upon or crime not that it never happened.
And not only do you claim descent from the Israelites, you claim to be a pure descendant. Where the genetic proof you have no DNA from a white person in you?

[Divair]

Just east of Hertzliya, lol. I'm part of the monster that is Hod Hasharon/Kfar Saba/Ra'anana.

So literally 10 minutes from my friend's house in Azzun. Hell, you could probably ride a bicycle to the Qalqilya Zoo (and see the world's most depressed lion

Possibly. Horrible traffic around these parts, though. They're building a huge highway through this monster of a region in an attempt to alleviate traffic, but it'll probably do nothing at all.

[Al Meajilia]

As I recall Israeli forces are standing near the Gaza border and shoot protesters, or severely wounding them. Armies these days need to be put on a leash

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

Oh I never knew rocks were firearms. Oh and don't forget a recent incident where Israeli soldiers have been entering Al Aqsa mosque and harassing Palestinian students and burning the Quran.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

There are no settlements and Israeli military bases left in Gaza. Ergo, Gazans can build whatever they want in those lands now. They choose not to.

Israel maintains a 300 meter buffer zone next to the wall, which effectively prevents Gazans from farming 9% of their land

9%? Hard to believe. Gaza is bigger than you suppose.

[DogDoo 7]

As I recall Israeli forces are standing near the Gaza border and shoot protesters, or severely wounding them. Armies these days need to be put on a leash

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

lolno. http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=567976

No fucking guns here.

[Yehuddah]

Genetically proven.

Bible is not a source and being Taboo only means it was frowned upon or crime not that it never happened.
And not only do you claim descent from the Israelites, you claim to be a pure descendant. Where the genetic proof you have no DNA from a white person in you?

I tell you genetically proven.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

Oh I never knew rocks were firearms. Oh and don't forget a recent incident where Israeli soldiers have been entering Al Aqsa mosque and harassing Palestinian students and burning the Quran.

Hahahaha. you really think Gaza is devoid of firearms and is some sort of peacenik paradise? They have rockets and firearms galore. Don't believe me? Go visit.

[Al Meajilia]

Just east of Hertzliya, lol. I'm part of the monster that is Hod Hasharon/Kfar Saba/Ra'anana.

So literally 10 minutes from my friend's house in Azzun. Hell, you could probably ride a bicycle to the Qalqilya Zoo (and see the world's most depressed lion

You have obviously not seen Kuwait zoo before you say which is the most depressed lion lol

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

lolno. http://www.maannews.net/eng/ViewDetails.aspx?ID=567976

No fucking guns here.

Approached fence. Threat. Respond with show of force. The man didn't die. Nice strawman.

[Al Meajilia]

Oh I never knew rocks were firearms. Oh and don't forget a recent incident where Israeli soldiers have been entering Al Aqsa mosque and harassing Palestinian students and burning the Quran.

Hahahaha. you really think Gaza is devoid of firearms and is some sort of peacenik paradise? They have rockets and firearms galore. Don't believe me? Go visit.

The Government! Not the People!

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Hahahaha. you really think Gaza is devoid of firearms and is some sort of peacenik paradise? They have rockets and firearms galore. Don't believe me? Go visit.

The Government! Not the People!

I respectfully disagree. Go visit. There are plenty of non government entities with guns.

[Yehuddah]

Hahahaha. you really think Gaza is devoid of firearms and is some sort of peacenik paradise? They have rockets and firearms galore. Don't believe me? Go visit.

The Government! Not the People!

The Gazans elected Hamas.
The wars in Gaza is their fault.

[Chinese Regions]

Why are they not Jewish?

Even by Halachah they are not.
They GENETICALLY are not Jewish, and even by their theory they are not by the Halachah.

Genetically you might not be Israelite.

They say the are the decendents of Solomon and Sheba, which is untrue, AND EVEN IF IT WAS, by the Halachah, Judaism is maternal.

Why is it untrue, because their black? One Israelite ruling over a nation of black people, yeah, skin colour is not exactly going to remain, just like how Israelites in a continent full of white people wouldn't.

However, their "theory" is known to be incorrect, they are not Jews and are a threat to the Jewish state.

Your "theory" that Israelites never bred with foreigners incorrect as is the notion that all Ashkenzim and full blooded pure descendants of Israelites.

[DogDoo 7]

Israel maintains a 300 meter buffer zone next to the wall, which effectively prevents Gazans from farming 9% of their land

9%? Hard to believe. Gaza is bigger than you suppose.

It averages 7-8 km wide. 300 meters of that + the two end pieces is about 9%.

[Al Meajilia]

The Government! Not the People!

I respectfully disagree. Go visit. There are plenty of non government entities with guns.

I want evidence first, have you visited Gaza?

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

Hey, Chinese regions, what's your ethnicity?

[Chinese Regions]

Bible is not a source and being Taboo only means it was frowned upon or crime not that it never happened.
And not only do you claim descent from the Israelites, you claim to be a pure descendant. Where the genetic proof you have no DNA from a white person in you?

I tell you genetically proven.

Source it then.

[Grad Duchy of Luxembourg]

I respectfully disagree. Go visit. There are plenty of non government entities with guns.

I want evidence first, have you visited Gaza?

Yes I have. But I don't have any pictures or anything that can constitute evidence. Just my words. I suggest you visit if you can. It's a lot harder now, but not impossible. Or ask. There are Gazans that you can interact with, you know.

[DogDoo 7]

Protesters are warned only if they cross the control line dividing Gaza from Israel. They are only aimed and shot if they threaten the soldiers themselves with firearms. Protesters have grown brazen and have themselves to fault for crossing control lines they know full well are the limits of protest area.

Approached fence. Threat. Respond with show of force. The man didn't die. Nice strawman.

I'm sorry, what did you say?

[DogDoo 7]

I want evidence first, have you visited Gaza?

Yes I have. But I don't have any pictures or anything that can constitute evidence. Just my words. I suggest you visit if you can. It's a lot harder now, but not impossible. Or ask. There are Gazans that you can interact with, you know.

Ah, livin' it up in Gush Katif