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by Voldoviana » Mon Mar 04, 2013 9:59 pm
by Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:00 pm
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:01 pm
by Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:01 pm
Defensor wrote:And as if 9mm wasn't bad enough, standard issue M9's suck ass. Hell, even our M4's are outdated and in desperate need of replacements. This damn budget cut is really making shit hard on us. We'd probably be better armed if our leadership let us bring our own arms in
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:02 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:And as if 9mm wasn't bad enough, standard issue M9's suck ass. Hell, even our M4's are outdated and in desperate need of replacements. This damn budget cut is really making shit hard on us. We'd probably be better armed if our leadership let us bring our own arms in
Am I the only person here who has had zero problems whatsoever with the 92FS?
by Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:03 pm
Spreewerke wrote:
Wiki. has muzzle velocities within 100fps within one another between .38 Super and 10mm Auto. I also doubt ~1mm difference in bullet diameter is going to make that big of a difference considering 9mm HPs can perform just as well as .45ACP HPs anymore.
by San-Silvacian » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:04 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Nua Corda wrote:
Because you can get more performance out of a 10, and I hate the number 9.
Star Modelo B, as seen in pulp fiction
Wiki. has muzzle velocities within 100fps within one another between .38 Super and 10mm Auto. I also doubt ~1mm difference in bullet diameter is going to make that big of a difference considering 9mm HPs can perform just as well as .45ACP HPs anymore.
by Voldoviana » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:05 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:And as if 9mm wasn't bad enough, standard issue M9's suck ass. Hell, even our M4's are outdated and in desperate need of replacements. This damn budget cut is really making shit hard on us. We'd probably be better armed if our leadership let us bring our own arms in
Am I the only person here who has had zero problems whatsoever with the 92FS?
by Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:05 pm
by Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:06 pm
Voldoviana wrote:
As someone who's handled a friend's civvie version at the range many times, not at all. It seems like a fine enough pistol. Granted, personal preference makes me pick an M1911, but the 92FS seems fine enough if it fills the role.
by Aqizithiuda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:08 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:And as if 9mm wasn't bad enough, standard issue M9's suck ass. Hell, even our M4's are outdated and in desperate need of replacements. This damn budget cut is really making shit hard on us. We'd probably be better armed if our leadership let us bring our own arms in
Am I the only person here who has had zero problems whatsoever with the 92FS?
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by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:09 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:And as if 9mm wasn't bad enough, standard issue M9's suck ass. Hell, even our M4's are outdated and in desperate need of replacements. This damn budget cut is really making shit hard on us. We'd probably be better armed if our leadership let us bring our own arms in
Am I the only person here who has had zero problems whatsoever with the 92FS?
by Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:10 pm
Defensor wrote:
Here's my problem. Too bulky for my taste (again, 1911 purist), too heavy for a 9mm, I've seen better accuracy with a Hi-Point, not the absolute easiest to field strip, and I can't say too many good things about it's durability. Mine's been deployed twice and it's alreayd looking like shit, jams after a couple hundred rounds, and is a pain in the ass the clean after a long day at the range. So all in all, not a bad gun, but I could pick 100 better 9mm's to start with (IMO).
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:10 pm
Nua Corda wrote:Voldoviana wrote:As someone who's handled a friend's civvie version at the range many times, not at all. It seems like a fine enough pistol. Granted, personal preference makes me pick an M1911, but the 92FS seems fine enough if it fills the role.
That open slide is practically an invitation to get foreign material into the action. Ever stress-tested one with sand?
by San-Silvacian » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:11 pm
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:11 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:Here's my problem. Too bulky for my taste (again, 1911 purist), too heavy for a 9mm, I've seen better accuracy with a Hi-Point, not the absolute easiest to field strip, and I can't say too many good things about it's durability. Mine's been deployed twice and it's alreayd looking like shit, jams after a couple hundred rounds, and is a pain in the ass the clean after a long day at the range. So all in all, not a bad gun, but I could pick 100 better 9mm's to start with (IMO).
How is it not easy to field-strip?
by Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:13 pm
by Nua Corda » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:13 pm
Defensor wrote:
Here's my problem. Too bulky for my taste (again, 1911 purist), too heavy for a 9mm, I've seen better accuracy with a Hi-Point, not the absolute easiest to field strip, and I can't say too many good things about it's durability. Mine's been deployed twice and it's alreayd looking like shit, jams after a couple hundred rounds, and is a pain in the ass the clean after a long day at the range. So all in all, not a bad gun, but I could pick 100 better 9mm's to start with (IMO).
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:15 pm
Spreewerke wrote:Defensor wrote:Didn't say it wasn't easy, just not compared to a glock...or an M&P...or any 1911...or a Springfield...or a etc. etc. etc.
It is easier than all of those things in my experience.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5oeJfuUe54w
I can strip and reassemble a 1911 blindfolded, but that doesn't mean it's still easier than the P.38/P1/92-series.
by Spreewerke » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:15 pm
by Defensor » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:16 pm
Nua Corda wrote:Defensor wrote:Here's my problem. Too bulky for my taste (again, 1911 purist), too heavy for a 9mm, I've seen better accuracy with a Hi-Point, not the absolute easiest to field strip, and I can't say too many good things about it's durability. Mine's been deployed twice and it's alreayd looking like shit, jams after a couple hundred rounds, and is a pain in the ass the clean after a long day at the range. So all in all, not a bad gun, but I could pick 100 better 9mm's to start with (IMO).
If I absolutely had to have a 9mm, it would probably be a Para-Ordinance M1911, or a SIG. I like the look of Ruger Pxx series pistols, but in my experience they stovepipe and jam regularly if not oiled religiously.San-Silvacian wrote:
I wasn't saying it was HURR BEST PISTOL EVER was I?
Its the sexiest pistol ever. Even better than a nickle plated ivory handled Gov. issued 1911.
Best 9mm over all is Hi-Power.
It's mildly cool-looking, but there are far sexier pistols IMO. Like a 10mm Auto, full-dust-jacket, slab-sided, underbarrel railed M1911 with Pachmyr American Legend grips, a parkerized frame and a nickle-plated slide.
by Black cats luck » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:16 pm
by Gingeyland » Mon Mar 04, 2013 10:17 pm
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