Hello, and welcome to SPINN Presents. A platform The South Pacific Independent News Network will use to explore specific topics in NS. Our goal is to foster discussion on the topic, so feel free to post in between the articles we will be posting on the subject.
Our first issue of SPINN presents is on NationStates Nazis. This is a topic I find to be very interesting because unlike a lot of other 'NS ideologies', Nazism is one that has a real life tie and has been specifically protected in NS. Over the last few months it has also been getting more attention around NS, from various wars declared on Nazi regions to the UDL making policy changes on how to react to Nazis.
It really issue an issue where regions react much differently then they would otherwise. A specific example is one I was involved in at DEN. DEN and our bitter rivals of the time, the Pacific Defenders teamed up to raid a Nazi region. This is despite the fact that both regions fought daily at update and that the Pacific Defenders key member was an ex-DEN turn coat. For a moment there was unity between the two groups in order to take a stand against real life hate.
So, us at SPINN want to take the time to learn more about what role Nazi's play in NS and how this small group impacts the rest of the game. I hope you enjoy SPINN's coverage of this topic, and if you wish to contribute to this topic or future NS presents topics, please Telegram me!!
Now to kick us off, I have asked a handful of players this question: Do you think liberating a Nazi region just so it can be raided is justified? Why or why not?
Rachel Anumia- Balder:
Personally, I do not like the idea of liberating a Nazi region so that it may be raided. You're talking about removing a regions ability to close its borders and I don't think that the fact that it is Nazi is good enough to warrant this. I can't recall an instance prior to this when it was felt that a liberation should go against the wishes of the region. Furthermore, it's not like the closing of their borders hasn't damaged them. They can't recruit and will continue to slowly decline, it's like a trade embargo on them and I'm perfectly content with that resolution. I don't understand this need for blood by people, because this is achieving the same thing and it is enough. There is no need to further vengeful aims against them except for personal anger and peoples need to see them destroyed. It's too much
Mahaj- Defender:
I don't think its justified. There are two or so reasons for this:
One is that if we use the Liberation resolution once to invade a region, it opens up a terrible precedent of using the SC to forcibly raid a region. We didn't like it when Nazi Europe tried it, and we shouldn't like it now. It cheapens liberation resolutions and could harm the chances of a Liberation in the future for a region that truly needs it.
I also believe that in a situation where the region isn't harming anybody, there isn't any need to do something like this, regardless of their ideology.
Zemnaya Svoboda- former TNP Delegate:
Zemnaya Svoboda believes that a properly presented Liberation of a region which inherently egregiously runs counter to the Security Council's values of interregional peace and goodwill may be Liberated offensively.
Mallorea and Riva- The Black Hawks:
I think it is an interesting question, and an answer would really depend on the perspective of the player. Personally I believe it is justified, but then again I think that all raiding is justified. For those who are not normally raiders, but neutrals, it is justified because hey, who doesn't love trashing nazis? For Defenders though, it is not. Defenders should never seek to use raiding as a means to any end against a community.
A Mean Old Man- Honorary Pacifican:
I don't think that the region's Nazism should be the justification for the liberation. I regard Nazism as a repulsive ideology, which is why I believe we should do as much as we can to ignore it in NS and suffocate its proponents' attempts to gain activity and numbers. If we're talking about NE specifically here, I think a very good case for a liberation-followed-by-destruction could be made regarding that region's idiosyncratic history in the gameplay world, but I also feel like it's sort of late for that.
Hileville- Former Delegate of The South Pacific:
It is most certainly justified. The belief and practice of promoting Nazism is disgusting and shouldn't even be allowed in NationStates. You won't here me say this often but I believe that any Nazi region should be taken and pound into the ground. If people want to spread such controversial beliefs they should not have the ability to run and hid in a region by creating a password and preventing those who don't share the same beliefs from acting against them.
ArgenReich, Former Minister of Interior of the Greater German Reich:
I believe it is not justified at all. Of course, as we reject the World Assembly, and our socialist enemies dominate it, it was obvius they were going to come up with something like this, using some sort of legal gap. It is not justified, because it's like....how to say it? Playing dirty. We, the "evil nazis-fascist-nationalists-capitalists" never did something like that]
Blackbird- TPC:
Liberating any region or taking any action to help raiders is not justified.
For more please check the TSP forums: http://forums.thesouthpacific.org/topic/8515730/1/