by Lysanders » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:34 pm
by Blouman Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2010 4:53 pm
by Lysanders » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:09 pm
Blouman Empire wrote:Interesting concept, though it is probably more a case of what happens in most groups of people the person who is different is made to feel like an outcast until they conform.
by Urzamalandi » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:14 pm
Brogavia wrote:Start wearing white robes and hand out fliers at college campuses talking about how you have discovered the true path happiness and all that junk.
by Blouman Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:25 pm
by Errinundera » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:56 pm
by UnhealthyTruthseeker » Thu Jan 14, 2010 5:59 pm
by Panzerjaeger » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:18 pm
Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Errinundera » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:19 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Catholicism and the Papacy does not equal Christianity.
by Panzerjaeger » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:21 pm
Errinundera wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Catholicism and the Papacy does not equal Christianity.
How many Christian religions are democratic?
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Blouman Empire » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:26 pm
Errinundera wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Catholicism and the Papacy does not equal Christianity.
How many Christian religions are democratic?
by Allbeama » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:28 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Catholicism and the Papacy does not equal Christianity.
How many Christian religions are democratic?
Democratic? Christianity is a Religion and not a System of Governance. If you mean rule by decree like the Papacy most aren't.
Also Democracy does not equal Egalitarianism that is moving the goal posts.
by Panzerjaeger » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:29 pm
Allbeama wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Panzerjaeger wrote:Errinundera wrote:Couple of details points I disagree with in the article.
1) Christianity is egalitarian? Yeah, sure. Tell the pope and his cronies that.
2) The writer is surprised that children see animals as the equal of humans. In an godless universe no creature has a greater "right" to exist than any other. For sure, I have power over my pet cat but I don't have any superior moral existence.
Catholicism and the Papacy does not equal Christianity.
How many Christian religions are democratic?
Democratic? Christianity is a Religion and not a System of Governance. If you mean rule by decree like the Papacy most aren't.
Also Democracy does not equal Egalitarianism that is moving the goal posts.
Most Christianity refers to sheep and shepherds. Hardly sounds egalitarian to me. Inherent in the idea is there is the Masses that need to be lead and an elite group of spiritually superior people that have some authority to exert over said masses. That is not in the spirit of egalitarianism. It is authoritarianism.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by Dragontide » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:30 pm
by JJ Place » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:37 pm
UnhealthyTruthseeker wrote:I remember Penn Jillette said that he never understood why the guilt needed to be there. If it turns out some of our practices harmed the environment, why couldn't we just do something about the problem without feeling guilty for our own Darwinian success?
by Barringtonia » Thu Jan 14, 2010 6:56 pm
by Lysanders » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:30 pm
Blouman Empire wrote:
Well because they have been brought up that they must be green and that in order to be a good person you must be green those that don't do it are made to feel like an outcast because it isn't the norm and people have been brainwashed that to be different is bad and to not be green is bad. We still see it happening today from fashion to exterme greenies who are pushing for more and more luxries to be taken away.
Dragontide wrote:Another attack on Gore. Typical.
What is the religion connection between Joseph Fourier discovering greenhouse effect science 180 years ago, a continuation of the research that had a Harvard professor ask Al Gore back in the 70s to keep an eye on the climate and the Gore pointing out the obvious with a film?
What is religious about opening up green think tanks and new factories to create green products?
It's pretty easy to feel guilty now that the costs of climate change damage has skyrocketed.
by Dragontide » Thu Jan 14, 2010 7:48 pm
Lysanders wrote:
I hardly see his point of view as being unfair to Gore or to climate research.
There are also high priests of the new religion, with Al Gore ("the Goracle") playing an especially prophetic role.
What are the costs of climate change, and why should we feel guilty about it?
Among the major findings reported in this assessment are that droughts, heavy downpours, excessive heat, and intense hurricanes are likely to become more commonplace as humans continue to increase the atmospheric concentrations of heat-trapping greenhouse gases.
by Natapoc » Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:06 am
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