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Postby Bombadil » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:12 pm

Radiatia wrote:I absolutely love the police and have an undying respect for them. They have saved my life twice now.

My only wish is that one day New Zealand arms the police - I am tired of these brave people being put on the front lines against scum armed with only some pepper spray and a tazer.


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Postby Anarkadia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:14 pm

Every breath you take and every move you make...every bond you break, every step you take, they'll be watching you.

Personally, I think Michael Parenti summed it up nicely when he said their primary function wasn't necessarily to fight crime, but social control and the protection of property.
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:14 pm

As with any other profession, some cops are assholes, some are great and upstanding members of the community, and most are somewhere in between. Except I think many people have a problem with the fact that a police officer has authority over them, fueling childish behaviour. Why do people complain so much? Would you rather have a soldier than a police officer?
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:15 pm

Northern Nordic Nation wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:The police here in Boston are OK. They might make the odd mistake here or there, or occasionally hassle people for things that are not really a big deal; but on the whole it is good to have them around. You really do need police officers to maintain order in cities.

The quality of police really does depend on where you are, though. When I was a kid, I knew Prince George's County, Maryland, was a shithole by the number of police brutality cases I heard about in the local news.


Obviously you haven't had any experience with Boston's Drug Control Unit. You will; regardless if you've ever even see an illegal drug, you will be accused at sometime in your future. White, black, or Purple, they're coming for you. My guess is you live in Southie or Charlestown, which means it's sooner rather than later for you!


Nope, never been involved with the Drug Control Unit. I've lived in Boston for several years already and it has not been an issue.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:17 pm

Radiatia wrote:I absolutely love the police and have an undying respect for them. They have saved my life twice now.


That's why I am willing to forgive them for a little bit of obnoxiousness, because when you actually need the cops, sometimes you really need them.
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Postby Genivaria » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:18 pm

I think that police are people and therefore extremely varied in their integrity and actions.

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:19 pm

Bombadil wrote:
Radiatia wrote:I absolutely love the police and have an undying respect for them. They have saved my life twice now.

My only wish is that one day New Zealand arms the police - I am tired of these brave people being put on the front lines against scum armed with only some pepper spray and a tazer.


Yes, the anarchic hell that is New Zealand..

I, for one, blame Obama for the horrific nightmare that is downtown Wellington.
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Postby Curiosityness » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 pm

my dad was a police officer and once he pulled someone over who was drinking and driving, and the man was given a choice. ticket, or dance on top of his car. i wish i was their
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 pm

I have no problems with the police in New Zealand. My local constables are nice people who aren't generally threatening and respond very quickly to incidents. For example, on New Years, one of our cars was vandalised by some drunken youths and the police were up to the camp further up the road from us within five minutes of the call.

Yes, there have been some problems but I generally think the police are actually too criticised for their actions. Such as when a police chase ends in the death of a driver, the public blames the police. It's really quite annoying and I wish the public was a little less prone to acting like a bunch of unintelligent sheep.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:20 pm

Curiosityness wrote:my dad was a police officer and once he pulled someone over who was drinking and driving, and the man was given a choice. ticket, or dance on top of his car. i wish i was their

Incidentally, it's things like that that give cops bad names.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:21 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Yes, the anarchic hell that is New Zealand..

I, for one, blame Obama for the horrific nightmare that is downtown Wellington.


At least Canada is committed to zombie-free policies, NZ just lets the fuckers roam about as they please..

http://rt.com/news/canada-free-of-zombies-189/
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 pm

The police have never bothered me yet, so it astounds me that some people would hate them.
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Postby Costa Alegria » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Bombadil wrote:
Yes, the anarchic hell that is New Zealand..

I, for one, blame Obama for the horrific nightmare that is downtown Wellington.


I blame Wellingtonians.

Seriously, there was a proposal for a "Wellywood" sign erected near the airport. It would have been more appropriate if it was a giant penis painted in the colours of the Australian flag.
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Postby Curiosityness » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:22 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Curiosityness wrote:my dad was a police officer and once he pulled someone over who was drinking and driving, and the man was given a choice. ticket, or dance on top of his car. i wish i was their

Incidentally, it's things like that that give cops bad names.

well the guy was drunk...and he was being nice if you think about it
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:23 pm

Curiosityness wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:Incidentally, it's things like that that give cops bad names.

well the guy was drunk...and he was being nice if you think about it

And also giving the driver an opportunity to kill somebody in the future.
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Postby Bombadil » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:24 pm

Saiwania wrote:The police have never bothered me yet, so it astounds me that some people would hate them.


When the police bother Saiwana, that's the time to hate them people.
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Postby Hallistar » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:25 pm

Saiwania wrote:The police have never bothered me yet, so it astounds me that some people would hate them.


You'll find dozens of cases about police brutality/abuse in the US, Canada, Australia, Greece, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, etc.

I'm not saying the majority of police officers in western nations are abusive, just that I don't get why you're astounded that people might hate Law Enforcement agencies

Unless you're referring to the specific police in your county/town?
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Postby Curiosityness » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Curiosityness wrote:well the guy was drunk...and he was being nice if you think about it

And also giving the driver an opportunity to kill somebody in the future.

how would a ticket change that? i think he arrested him anyways
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Postby Die Oranje-Vrystaat » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 pm

Also, the police are more efficient than the DMV or Postal Service, so that's another plus. Being a government institution that actually functions.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 pm

Curiosityness wrote:
Wisconsin9 wrote:And also giving the driver an opportunity to kill somebody in the future.

how would a ticket change that? i think he arrested him anyways

Things like that tend to go on a person's record.
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Postby Saiwania » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:26 pm

Bombadil wrote:When the police bother Saiwana, that's the time to hate them people.


So long as you know how to follow directions or orders, 9 times out of 10 the police aren't going to be violent/abusive towards you.
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Postby Hallistar » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:27 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Bombadil wrote:When the police bother Saiwana, that's the time to hate them people.


So long as you know how to follow directions or orders, 9 times out of 10 the police aren't going to be violent/abusive towards you.


I take it the cases of those who are deaf or mentally impaired fall under that 1/10th chance?

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Postby Frisivisia » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 pm

Saiwania wrote:
Bombadil wrote:When the police bother Saiwana, that's the time to hate them people.


So long as you know how to follow directions or orders, 9 times out of 10 the police aren't going to be violent/abusive towards you.

Unless you're black and in LA, with a x4 multiplier if you're Rodney King.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Saiwania wrote:
So long as you know how to follow directions or orders, 9 times out of 10 the police aren't going to be violent/abusive towards you.


I take it the cases of those who are deaf or mentally impaired fall under that 1/10th chance?

Or drunk, or stupid, or just hate the police and do the opposite of whatever they say to piss them off (which probably falls under stupid).
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Postby Curiosityness » Tue Feb 19, 2013 9:28 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Curiosityness wrote:how would a ticket change that? i think he arrested him anyways

Things like that tend to go on a person's record.

yes but people like that tend to not give a damn and seem to always do it again, cause if you actually cared about what was on your record you probably wouldnt do it in the first place. so why not have a little fun
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