All this sex scandal needs is a strawberry on top....oh wait

[Howdoyoudoland]

Yes I did. *nod*

So you're the one making it a "liberal matter", when really it has nothing to do with liberals.

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

[Wikkiwallana]

I really don't see how what happens between consenting adults should have to do with their job, unless they're porn stars/prostitutes.

Apparently the lady didn't consent to being sent nude photos. So…

[Ovisterra]

So you're the one making it a "liberal matter", when really it has nothing to do with liberals.

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

By that logic it's about every ideology, because everyone has opinions on the conduct of officials. You're just making it a "liberal matter" because you seem to have lost the ability to have a discussion without making a knee-jerk post about how it's all the fault of the goddamned liberals.

[Ifreann]

I don't know where you got the idea that public officials are supposed to be the best, the brightest, the most virtuous and most ethical. They're supposed to be the people who win the election.

You wouldn't want a person possessing the attributes above to win elections?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm getting at. Top job on deciphering my encoded message.

[Neo Art]

The conduct of "liberals" has nothing to do with the thread topic, which was the conduct of an elected official in South Africa. To engage in that line is thread jacking at best. How about we remain on topic and not let ourselves get dragged down with him, hmm?

[Wikkiwallana]

He can stay erect with ice cream on his penis? And we're not giving out awards?

We don't give awards for photoshopping.

Yeah, what do you think this is? Cracked.com?

[Ovisterra]

I really don't see how what happens between consenting adults should have to do with their job, unless they're porn stars/prostitutes.

Apparently the lady didn't consent to being sent nude photos. So…

Ah, then it's another matter.

[Desperate Measures]

What are you talking about? And why are you sighing? Are you sleepy? Do you want to take a nap?

You don't understand that simple question?

I do understand that simple question.

[Ifreann]

You wouldn't want a person possessing the attributes above to win elections?

He never said that, he just said that it's extremely unlikely.

I didn't say that either.

[Ovisterra]

The conduct of "liberals" has nothing to do with the thread topic, which was the conduct of an elected official in South Africa. To engage in that line is thread jacking at best. How about we remain on topic and not let ourselves get dragged down with him, hmm?

Good point.

[Gauthier]

So you're the one making it a "liberal matter", when really it has nothing to do with liberals.

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

Given that this is in South Africa and thus the usual American partisanships are pretty fucking meaningless, this is way more than a simple strawman. This is Strawzilla.

[Ovisterra]

He never said that, he just said that it's extremely unlikely.

I didn't say that either.

True. It was implied, though.

[Eaglleia]

I can understand why people are so absurdly interested in the sex lives of famous people, but there's really no excuse why that should create "scandals" and cost those people their positions.
"Oh my god! That man engaged in normal adult sexual behavior! He must be shunned and removed from office!"
It's stupid.

[Howdoyoudoland]

The conduct of "liberals" has nothing to do with the thread topic, which was the conduct of an elected official in South Africa. To engage in that line is thread jacking at best. How about we remain on topic and not let ourselves get dragged down with him, hmm?

Depends, I call most all leftist liberals. In any case, I'm attacking the attitude of not caring and it's source.

If you have a counter-argument, present it. Otherwise, stop bothering me.

[Howdoyoudoland]

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

Given that this is in South Africa and thus the usual American partisanships are pretty fucking meaningless, this is way more than a simple strawman. This is Strawzilla.

Oh, I'm sorry I don't use the exact same terms for everything you do. Truly, I apologize.

[Neo Art]

I can understand why people are so absurdly interested in the sex lives of famous people, but there's really no excuse why that should create "scandals" and cost those people their positions.
"Oh my god! That man engaged in normal adult sexual behavior! He must be shunned and removed from office!"
It's stupid.

Well as far as we can tell, his "normal sexual behavior" consisted of doing so with a subordinate, who didn't really want to see his penis.

So...yeah. I'm cool with him getting fired.

[Howdoyoudoland]

The conduct of "liberals" has nothing to do with the thread topic, which was the conduct of an elected official in South Africa. To engage in that line is thread jacking at best. How about we remain on topic and not let ourselves get dragged down with him, hmm?

Good point.

Not really.

[Howdoyoudoland]

You don't understand that simple question?

I do understand that simple question.

Then why did you ask what I'm talking about? If you understand the question, what are you referring to when you ask that?

[Ifreann]

Well as far as we can tell, his "normal sexual behavior" consisted of doing so with a subordinate, who didn't really want to see his penis.

So...yeah. I'm cool with him getting fired.

And maybe a stern talking to on the proper way to serve strawberries.

[Howdoyoudoland]

You wouldn't want a person possessing the attributes above to win elections?

Yes, that's exactly what I'm getting at. Top job on deciphering my encoded message.

I'm asking you a question, not insinuating anything.

God, why is everyone on this site so defensive? Just answer the question.

[Rubiconic Crossings V2 rev 1f]

So you're the one making it a "liberal matter", when really it has nothing to do with liberals.

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

Yes. You rightists think its perfectly ok to sexually harass people and of course are willing to defraud the public purse.

[Ovisterra]

I do understand that simple question.

Then why did you ask what I'm talking about? If you understand the question, what are you referring to when you ask that?

I think (and I'm not 100% sure here) that he's wondering why on earth you're asking such a question when it's only slightly relevant and the answer is obvious.

[Howdoyoudoland]

Rather, it absolutely has to do with liberals and their attitude towards the conduct of elected officials.

Yes. You rightists think its perfectly ok to sexually harass people and of course are willing to defraud the public purse.

Not really, no. But if you ask the majority of leftist on this site (such as the Op), they're perfectly fine with this sort of hanky-panky from elected officials even when it's consensual.

This is what I have a problem with.

[Neo Art]

Well as far as we can tell, his "normal sexual behavior" consisted of doing so with a subordinate, who didn't really want to see his penis.

So...yeah. I'm cool with him getting fired.

And maybe a stern talking to on the proper way to serve strawberries.

seems a fucking waste of good strawberries. I doubt HE ate them.

[Howdoyoudoland]

Then why did you ask what I'm talking about? If you understand the question, what are you referring to when you ask that?

I think (and I'm not 100% sure here) that he's wondering why on earth you're asking such a question when it's only slightly relevant and the answer is obvious.

Responding to the point about our politicians being the person who gets elected.

I mean, that's obvious. What I'm asking is what sort of people should get elected.