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by Zaddaa » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:30 pm
by Greed and Death » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:30 pm
Muravyets wrote:Antilon wrote:Muravyets wrote:Tagmatium wrote:Melkor Unchained wrote:Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.
It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.
Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.
According to his bio...He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.
Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?
The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.
The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.
From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.
Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.
Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.
So, what you're telling us is that his entire political career is based on a selfish desire to get his own way in everything?
by Israslovakahzerbajan » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:36 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:
Oh, I bet it counts alright...otaku gets anyone a x50 multiplier on their hell points.
by Flameswroth » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:09 am
Daistallia 2104 wrote:While the elk may have it good, canned hunts are indeed douchebaggery. And, while legal in Idaho, it's illegal in many states. (I'm actually surprised it's still legal in Idaho.) If you want a trophy, go earn it.
Czardas wrote:Why should we bail out climate change with billions of dollars, when lesbians are starving in the streets because they can't afford an abortion?
Reagan Clone wrote:What you are proposing is glorifying God by loving, respecting, or at least tolerating, his other creations.
That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.
by Vervaria » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:19 am
Robustian wrote:If you disagree with me, you are wrong. Period.
Ashmoria wrote:it worries me more when people who hate the government and dont think it can do a good job at anything get into power and start running things.
Wanderjar wrote:hiding behind this "I WANT SOURCES" wall is very quaint
Self--Esteem wrote:No. I love smearing those people who evidently like their country blown by a nuke and who are too foolish to realise that middle-eastern terrorism is nothing to be fond of.
Novistranaya wrote:After the Civil War, the majority of Southerners were more than happy to accept defeat and acknowledge the fact that (though not immediately) blacks were going to have the same rights as them.
by Melkor Unchained » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:08 am
Vervaria wrote:.... What. The. Fuck? Are Republican candidates from Idaho usually this insane?
by Barrettstia » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:13 am
Late last month, the church issued a statement distancing itself from the prophecy and from Rammell, saying the prophecy has "not been substantiated by historical research."
by United Russian State » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:19 am
by Flameswroth » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:33 am
Barrettstia wrote:Late last month, the church issued a statement distancing itself from the prophecy and from Rammell, saying the prophecy has "not been substantiated by historical research."
Considering what Mormons will recognize as 'historical research' that's saying quite a bit!
Czardas wrote:Why should we bail out climate change with billions of dollars, when lesbians are starving in the streets because they can't afford an abortion?
Reagan Clone wrote:What you are proposing is glorifying God by loving, respecting, or at least tolerating, his other creations.
That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.
by Lunatic Goofballs » Wed Jan 06, 2010 10:51 am
greed and death wrote:This is a little early to be panicking anyways. The GOP has an incumbent Governor already and the primary is in may. The incumbent almost always wins those unless your Joe Lieberman.
by Greed and Death » Wed Jan 06, 2010 11:32 am
Lunatic Goofballs wrote:greed and death wrote:This is a little early to be panicking anyways. The GOP has an incumbent Governor already and the primary is in may. The incumbent almost always wins those unless your Joe Lieberman.
I wonder if the fact that Joe Lieberman has never been Governor makes that more amusing or less. I'm leaning toward more.
by KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:48 pm
by KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:50 pm
by Chrobalta » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:04 pm
by KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:08 pm
Muravyets wrote:Antilon wrote:Muravyets wrote:Tagmatium wrote:Melkor Unchained wrote:Isn't that sort of what they were doing when Cheney shot that guy in the face a few years back? It was this kind controlled hunt or something, IIRC. I don't know who this guy is or what he's doing with Elk ( ) but it sounds kind of similar based on what I've read here.
It is probably one of the smaller issues with the dude, though.
Yeah, to be honest, though "hunting" domesticated animals illustrates very neatly his douchebaggery, I am far more concerned with all that Christian Soldier crap. This man clearly has no idea what the US is or how its government, Constitution and laws work. He is clearly not competent to hold national office.
According to his bio...He was just coming off a major confrontation with the State of Idaho, Department of Agriculture over whether Rex needed a license or not to own an elk ranch. Since 1994 it was a requirement that all elk ranches be licensed. Prior to 2001, the Department of Agriculture inventoried the elk by counting heads. In 2001 they decided each elk needed an individual inventory. This required catching each elk and reading their small metal ear tags.
Rex was unable to catch nine elk that were on the mountain, but still contained in his 1000 acre facility. Because he couldn’t catch the elk and refused to dart them, the Department of Agriculture refused to renew his license. Rex challenged their authority to license ranches. Being a veterinarian and having worked with many cattle, sheep, and horse ranches he knew that they were not required to have a license, so why should elk ranches have the requirement?
The Department of Agriculture frustrated by the challenge and their inability to enforce the licensing, went to the 2001 legislature and changed the civil penalty law for what they ostensibly claimed were “bad actors” that thumbed their noses at the law.
The law prior to 2001 was a $100 minimum with a $5,000 maximum if a person was found guilty. Following the law change in 2001 it read, “each day of a continuing offense can be treated as a new offense.” So instead of a maximum penalty of $5,000 per offense if convicted, the new law allowed for $5,000 a day.
From the day the new law became effective until Rex had a formal settlement meeting for operating without a license the potential fines were over $750,000.00.
Rex’s solution to the problem was change the law! And that is what he did. With the help of Representative Dennis Lake in the House and Senator Don Burtenshaw in the Senate, the civil penalty law of 2001 was repealed and the rule requiring licensing of elk ranches was deleted.
Rex was profoundly moved by the victory and realized that rather then submitting to bad laws it is a person’s responsibility to try and change them. He also learned that it is possible for one man to make a stand against the government and win. This led to an intense study of the Constitution by Rex.
So, what you're telling us is that his entire political career is based on a selfish desire to get his own way in everything?
by Vervaria » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:10 pm
Robustian wrote:If you disagree with me, you are wrong. Period.
Ashmoria wrote:it worries me more when people who hate the government and dont think it can do a good job at anything get into power and start running things.
Wanderjar wrote:hiding behind this "I WANT SOURCES" wall is very quaint
Self--Esteem wrote:No. I love smearing those people who evidently like their country blown by a nuke and who are too foolish to realise that middle-eastern terrorism is nothing to be fond of.
Novistranaya wrote:After the Civil War, the majority of Southerners were more than happy to accept defeat and acknowledge the fact that (though not immediately) blacks were going to have the same rights as them.
by Angleter » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:15 pm
by Sel Appa » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:15 pm
by Flameswroth » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:17 pm
Angleter wrote:Looks like the GOP's found its 2012 Presidential candidate. Rammell/Huckabee 2012- you heard it here first.
Czardas wrote:Why should we bail out climate change with billions of dollars, when lesbians are starving in the streets because they can't afford an abortion?
Reagan Clone wrote:What you are proposing is glorifying God by loving, respecting, or at least tolerating, his other creations.
That is the gayest fucking shit I've ever heard, and I had Barry Manilow perform at the White House in '82.
by Rolling squid » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:30 pm
Daistallia 2104 wrote:Rolling squid wrote:We need to get him, that guy in virgina with the crazy website, and Glen Beck together, let them run a small country for a year, and bet on how long it takes them to crash and burn.
Sounds like a great follow up to the BBC's "How to Start Your Own Country". But who is "that guy in virgina with the crazy website"?
And BTW, on the subject of canned Elkhunts.... In the Hill Country in Texas, we have 8 foot high fenced ranches SPECIFICALLY to fence in game. Then, we charge hunters to come in and kill them.
Hunting is one of the biggest industries in my neck of the woods.
GASP!!! The inhumanity of it all.
Hammurab wrote:An athiest doesn't attend mass, go to confession, or know a lot about catholicism. So basically, an athiest is the same as a catholic.
Post-Unity Terra wrote:Golly gosh, one group of out-of-touch rich white guys is apparently more in touch with the average man than the other group of out-of-touch rich white guys.
by Panzerjaeger » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:32 pm
KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Oh great... Yet another Mormon bashing thread. Should we just ban me now to save the trouble? Gimme a break people.
Caninope wrote:Toyota: Keep moving forward, even when you don't want to!
Christmahanikwanzikah wrote:Timothy McVeigh casts... Pyrotechnics!
Greater Americania wrote:lol "No Comrade Ivan! Don't stick your head in there! That's the wood chi...!"
New Kereptica wrote:Fascism: because people are too smart nowadays.
by KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:56 pm
Panzerjaeger wrote:KiloMikeAlpha wrote:Oh great... Yet another Mormon bashing thread. Should we just ban me now to save the trouble? Gimme a break people.
I don't see any Mormon Bashing in here. Less martyrdom please? All I see is bashing of a psychotic Mormon probably a member of the John Birch Society who the Church has dropped like it is hot. I would say more people in this thread are glad the Church distanced themselves from this loony instead of embracing him thus making the likelihood of him getting support from Local Mormons rather low.
by KiloMikeAlpha » Wed Jan 06, 2010 1:57 pm
Rolling squid wrote:Daistallia 2104 wrote:Rolling squid wrote:We need to get him, that guy in virgina with the crazy website, and Glen Beck together, let them run a small country for a year, and bet on how long it takes them to crash and burn.
Sounds like a great follow up to the BBC's "How to Start Your Own Country". But who is "that guy in virgina with the crazy website"?
This guy. He's actually North Carolinan.And BTW, on the subject of canned Elkhunts.... In the Hill Country in Texas, we have 8 foot high fenced ranches SPECIFICALLY to fence in game. Then, we charge hunters to come in and kill them.
Hunting is one of the biggest industries in my neck of the woods.
GASP!!! The inhumanity of it all.
That's not hunting. It may not be immoral, but to call it hunting is an insult to anyone who actually hunts.
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