What is your sexuality? For people who are not closed minded

[The Emerald Dawn]

Would you have sex with someone of your gender? Yes or no?

That depends. Do I know she identifies as a he?

[The Truth and Light]

Would you have sex with someone of your gender? Yes or no?

That depends. Do I know she identifies as a he?

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

[The Emerald Dawn]

That depends. Do I know she identifies as a he?

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

No, I'm quite male. Though I'm half the man I used to be. (Half the man I used to be.) I'm saying that if I meet a self-identifying he who has she-parts, it would be different than a self-identifying he who had he parts. As stated earlier in this thread, I'm anti-sea cucumber.

[Zweite Alaje]

That depends. Do I know she identifies as a he?

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

God dammit guys, does this clusterfuck ever stop?

PS: I will be responding to the horde of replies you all have swarmed me with within the next few hours.

[The Emerald Dawn]

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

God dammit guys, does this clusterfuck ever stop?

PS: I will be responding to the horde of replies you all have swarmed me with within the next few hours.

No brakes on the thread-train.

[The Truth and Light]

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

God dammit guys, does this clusterfuck ever stop?

PS: I will be responding to the horde of replies you all have swarmed me with within the next few hours.

I await with anticipation.

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

I am confused. You admit to have total, ridiculously complete ignorance to how transgender psychology works. You don't know where it comes from, you don't know how they think, you don't know what causes it, common traits, chemical affects, or anything else that is possible used in clinical psychology to classify, understand, and analyze personality types, trauma, disorders, or anything like that.

And despite your ignorance, despite your lack of knowledge on the subject and apparent lack of experience interacting with transgender people, you go ahead and say, "FUCK ALL YALL" to the scientific, psychiatric, neuroscientific, genetic, and transgender communities. And what do you go with? "Oh it's just not common, so it's can't be considered good."

You have committed the worst, most disgusting genetic fallacy I have ever seen.

My reasoning isn't so much about it being "uncommon" as it is about it being illogical and not grounded in reality, no person in their right mind thinks or wants to be what they are not.

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

[North Cvandia]

I'm an out Gay.

[Zweite Alaje]

My reasoning isn't so much about it being "uncommon" as it is about it being illogical and not grounded in reality, no person in their right mind thinks or wants to be what they are not.

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

[New England and The Maritimes]

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

You are completely missing the point. If a male has his penis chopped off and replaced with a vagina, hormones put into his body, etc., he is now female. If a man wants to be a woman, and decides to act as such, he is a woman. Gender and sex are two separate things that are only tangentially related. Try to stop making an ass of yourself, if you can.

[The Truth and Light]

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

You don't even know what trans is.

[Zottistan]

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

Explain to me the difference between having an asset you like (money) and an asset you like (a body that matches your mind).

[The Emerald Dawn]

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

Explain to me the difference between having an asset you like (money) and an asset you like (a body that matches your mind).

I'd rather someone with the second, than the first?

[Umbra Ac Silentium]

brb going to mental hospital because I want to be wealthy

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

Nah, pretty sure that's full context there.

My reasoning ... is ... not grounded in reality

That is being taken out of context.
I provided the full section in question. :l That's very much in context.

[Zottistan]

Explain to me the difference between having an asset you like (money) and an asset you like (a body that matches your mind).

I'd rather someone with the second, than the first?

...Touche...

[Zweite Alaje]

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

You are completely missing the point.

No, not really.

If a male has his penis chopped off and replaced with a vagina, hormones put into his body, etc., he is now female.

No, that makes him a man that had his penis lopped off.

If a man wants to be a woman, and decides to act as such, he is a woman. Gender and sex are two separate things that are only tangentially related. Try to stop making an ass of yourself, if you can.

No, he's just a man that acts like a woman. A man can't be a woman, and a woman can't be a man.

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

You don't even know what trans is.

Actually yes, I do. I they think they're "trapped" in the "wrong body".

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

Explain to me the difference between having an asset you like (money) and an asset you like (a body that matches your mind).

Money is an obtainable asset, it is impossible to change ones gender-sex.

[Free South Califas]

You're a female, correct? If he identifies as a male, he's not your gender...

God dammit guys, does this clusterfuck ever stop?

Nope, gender keeps on happening whether you are capable of understanding it or.......otherwise. Not sure what reaction you're trying to raise by rehashing your thoroughly debunked, outdated pseudo-medical bigotry at this point.

NO, that is taking my statements out of context. We're talking about transexuality.

You are completely missing the point. If a male has his penis chopped off and replaced with a vagina, hormones put into his body, etc., he is now female. If a man wants to be a woman, and decides to act as such, he is a woman. Gender and sex are two separate things that are only tangentially related. Try to stop making an ass of yourself, if you can.

We can dream.

[Zottistan]

Explain to me the difference between having an asset you like (money) and an asset you like (a body that matches your mind).

Money is an obtainable asset, it is impossible to change ones gender-sex.

Except that people can and do change their sex.

EDIT: And if they can't, why can't they try?

[The Emerald Dawn]

God dammit guys, does this clusterfuck ever stop?

Nope, gender keeps on happening whether you are capable of understanding it or.......otherwise. Not sure what reaction you're trying to raise by rehashing your thoroughly debunked, outdated pseudo-medical bigotry at this point.

You are completely missing the point. If a male has his penis chopped off and replaced with a vagina, hormones put into his body, etc., he is now female. If a man wants to be a woman, and decides to act as such, he is a woman. Gender and sex are two separate things that are only tangentially related. Try to stop making an ass of yourself, if you can.

We can dream.

To my knowledge, the penis is not "chopped off". Parts-interior are removed, and it is "tucked in" to create part of the new primary characteristic.

[New England and The Maritimes]

Nope, gender keeps on happening whether you are capable of understanding it or.......otherwise. Not sure what reaction you're trying to raise by rehashing your thoroughly debunked, outdated pseudo-medical bigotry at this point.


We can dream.

To my knowledge, the penis is not "chopped off". Parts-interior are removed, and it is "tucked in" to create part of the new primary characteristic.

I was simplifying, I know the process.

[The Emerald Dawn]

To my knowledge, the penis is not "chopped off". Parts-interior are removed, and it is "tucked in" to create part of the new primary characteristic.

I was simplifying, I know the process.

The simplification may cause confusion and or incorrect subsequent expectations in the uninitiated.

[The Truth and Light]

From Wiki...

Transgender is the state of one's gender identity (self-identification as woman, man, neither or both) not matching one's assigned sex (identification by others as male, female or intersex based on physical/genetic sex).[1] Transgender does not imply any specific form of sexual orientation; transgender people may identify as heterosexual, homosexual, bisexual, pansexual, polysexual, or asexual; some may consider conventional sexual orientation labels inadequate or inapplicable to them. The precise definition for transgender remains in flux.

There are three established definitions that need to be made clear here.

Sex is a biological distinction between male and female. The basis for this distinction is establish through microbiology; different organism have different mechanism to reproduce. Some organisms are asexual and reproduce by making an exact copy of them selves. Most other organisms reproduce sexually, which typically implies that they utilize organic structure attach to themselves to induce the reproduction process. The structures produce something called gametes, or "sex cells", both arbitrarily defined as male or female. In humans, the male gamete is the sperm, and the female gamete is the egg.

Gender is a construct that exist in human society, independent of biological sex. It is based around one's identity and self-created role in society, in relation to others around them. Although a gender stereotype is often applied to you based on your biological sex, this is arbitrary and doesn't have to be the case. Every individual society has their own gender stereotypes, and sometimes they overlap. Some people, transgenders, feel that their society's construct of gender based around their does not fit them, so they perform the role of the opposite gender. This is not considered a mental illness, although many transgender people do suffer trauma from discrimination and bullying.

Information that everyone should read before they try to contest the sanity of transgender people.

EDIT: I said "three", but I only wrote two. Sue me...

[Zweite Alaje]

I challenge you to make your stand against me if you feel I am incorrect, Hypersomnia. You are Trans, correct? As I said defend yourself.

Why should anybody "defend themselves" to you?

You seem to be confusing anger with contempt, Zweite. People aren't angry at you, they are looking at you the same way they'd look at someone who thought that dropping his pants and pooping on the floor was a convincing reply during a debate.

Your posts are giving us an opportunity to expose and discuss some of the more common points of ignorance when it comes to trans issues, but honestly any old bigot could fill your role. You've given no reason why anybody should care what you think.

Puffing our your feathers and strutting around cawing "Come at me, bro!!!" is just pitiful.

I'm attacking their belief system.

Contempt and anger are the same to me.

I'm not "just any bigot", you will never find anyone like me, my ideological thought processes are unique as well as my manner of evaluating issues. If I feel I'm without question defeated in an arguement, I will concede. But I do care what you think, because you are incorrect.

I'm confrontational, that should be evident by now. I view debates as battles.

[The Truth and Light]

And the ultimate graph of proper information.

Genderbread Person!

I'd like it if from now on, when someone is terribly misinformed, we refer them to my posts to save time.

[Immoren]

I view debates as battles.

But silly Alaje. You are not Dovah.

And the ultimate graph of proper information.

Genderbread Person!

I'd like it if from now on, when someone is terribly misinformed, we refer them to my posts to save time.

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