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Vapor: A Steampunk RP Region (OOC v. 2.0 -- CLOSED)

A staging-point for declarations of war and other major diplomatic events. [In character]

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Nukes?

Allow them and their use. Nuclear holocaust is inevitable. Opens possibility of post-apocalyptic RPs.
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Allow them but not their use. No nuclear holocaust, but nations can make empty threats.
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9%
(Mish's plan) Allow their discovery, but not their use beyond initial tests, after which, the weaponized technology will be destroyed. Allows for Mish's research RP and for later nuclear power, but no nuclear weapons.
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Use alternative laws of physics that somehow prevent nuclear technology from functioning at all.
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Total votes : 173

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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:10 pm

@Cygnar The style of fighting used by my ground forces involves fast-moving, unpredictable and unorthodox maneuvers backed up by slow-moving support artillery and tanks. Warjacks are too large to move around as fast as regular troops, and they're too small to go with the support lines.
"Asking NSG about military strategy is like asking Stephen Hawking about running hurdles."~Blazedtown

"There is no fixing the world. There is just making it suck a little less."~Corsca

"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

"Capitalism is a petrol station with unreasonably priced drinks on the highway to utopia."~Forster Keys
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Social Libertarian|Authoritarian: -6.87
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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:11 pm

Sri Tschow wrote:@Cygnar The style of fighting used by my ground forces involves fast-moving, unpredictable and unorthodox maneuvers backed up by slow-moving support artillery and tanks. Warjacks are too large to move around as fast as regular troops, and they're too small to go with the support lines.

They are faster than tanks at least. And too small?
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Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
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Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:12 pm

Yeah, I would like to have a reserve(50 warjacks) for the Capital, bu they really do not go into our Army Doctrine. And our IFVs and APCs are faster than the Warjacks
I'm really tired

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Cygnar
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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:14 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Yeah, I would like to have a reserve(50 warjacks) for the Capital, bu they really do not go into our Army Doctrine. And our IFVs and APCs are faster than the Warjacks

Well I never said Warjacks replaced APCs or IFVs. They are made to replace tanks
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Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:15 pm

Cygnar wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Yeah, I would like to have a reserve(50 warjacks) for the Capital, bu they really do not go into our Army Doctrine. And our IFVs and APCs are faster than the Warjacks

Well I never said Warjacks replaced APCs or IFVs. They are made to replace tanks

We do not really use tanks. They are simply mobile artillery. While, we do have tanks, but they are not very common compared to Gun Carriers of IFVs.

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Postby Pavlostani » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:15 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Pretty assassin assassinate Nova leaders?

Just sign a waiver saying that the Pavlostani government is not responsible for lives lost, property damaged, or injuries including but not limited to punctures, lacerations, evisceration, decapitation or incineration. Side effects of hiring an assassin include loss of money, world disapproval, seizures and in rare cases death. If you experience any of the following symptoms, please call your doctor as Pavlostani Assassin's Incorporated may not be right for you. :p
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Cygnar
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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:17 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Cygnar wrote:Well I never said Warjacks replaced APCs or IFVs. They are made to replace tanks

We do not really use tanks. They are simply mobile artillery. While, we do have tanks, but they are not very common compared to Gun Carriers of IFVs.

2,000 POST!

Congrats! :clap:
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:18 pm

Yeah, Cygnar, our strategy is to kill off infantry and LVs with APCs and IFVs, then draw enemies into fire zones for massed arty
I'm really tired

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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:18 pm

Warjacks aren't a bad idea, but there are issues in my doctrine like the others. For one thing, it's difficult to create this sort of armor that fits a person and can make them slightly more mobile, be relatively well armed, and armored as much as a tank. Also, it's expensive to have a bunch of Warjacks charge across a field rather than send many soldiers armed probably just as well as a couple warjacks and support them with obsolete tanks that still have the guns to pack the punch and are cheap to build.

In Magor, Warjacks are no problem and I won't object, but in Vapor, that's a different story.

Kirashima over a Warjack any day. :P
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Sri Tschow
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Postby Sri Tschow » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:20 pm

Since everyone seems to be doing this:

Sri Tschowan-Businesses
  • Chong-Sun Enterprises (High-performance engines)
  • Zechou Arms National (Military-grade arms supplier)
  • Yokohama Fleet Systems (Airship technology)
  • LaoRail (Rail transport solutions)
  • Thawaii Shiprights Incorperated (Naval technology)
  • Chee Exports (Rice and fish exporter)
"Asking NSG about military strategy is like asking Stephen Hawking about running hurdles."~Blazedtown

"There is no fixing the world. There is just making it suck a little less."~Corsca

"Humans fight to the last. When all hope is lost, when everything stands to be taken? That's when they fight the hardest. I see no reason not to continue that tradition."~The Emerald Legion

"Capitalism is a petrol station with unreasonably priced drinks on the highway to utopia."~Forster Keys
Economic Left|Right: -5.88
Social Libertarian|Authoritarian: -6.87
Vapor Political Spectrum
Are found here.

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Cygnar
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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:22 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:7Kirashima over a Warjack any day. :P



Sure
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:24 pm

An Gargarian IFV Mark VI has 4x20mm autocannons and 1x35mm cannon It has 5cm of armor. What does a light warjack have?
I'm really tired

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The Keystone Federation
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Postby The Keystone Federation » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:26 pm

Does anyone have a prediction on when this Rp may be open? I have another nation that would fit perfectly for a Steampunk RP..

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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:26 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:Warjacks aren't a bad idea, but there are issues in my doctrine like the others. For one thing, it's difficult to create this sort of armor that fits a person and can make them slightly more mobile, be relatively well armed, and armored as much as a tank.


First, the warjack doesnt fit the person, the person fits the warjack, and second the warjack is made to fit to almost everyone, minor adjustments can be made inside the armor.

Also, it's expensive to have a bunch of Warjacks charge across a field rather than send many soldiers armed probably just as well as a couple warjacks and support them with obsolete tanks that still have the guns to pack the punch and are cheap to build.


Who said I would charge with Warjacks only? First infantry, then while the enemy is distracted fighting them, send the close quarters warjacks in to finish off the enemy.
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:27 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:An Gargarian IFV Mark VI has 4x20mm autocannons and 1x35mm cannon It has 5cm of armor. What does a light warjack have?

This cannon? And I've never gotten into specifications regarding the armor and weapons of my warjacks.
Last edited by Cygnar on Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:28 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:28 pm

Cygnar wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:An Gargarian IFV Mark VI has 4x20mm autocannons and 1x35mm cannon It has 5cm of armor. What does a light warjack have?

This cannon?

Is it Auto? What mm?
I'm really tired

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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:29 pm

Cygnar wrote:
Cyprum Xecuii wrote:Warjacks aren't a bad idea, but there are issues in my doctrine like the others. For one thing, it's difficult to create this sort of armor that fits a person and can make them slightly more mobile, be relatively well armed, and armored as much as a tank.


First, the warjack doesnt fit the person, the person fits the warjack, and second the warjack is made to fit to almost everyone, minor adjustments can be made inside the armor.

Also, it's expensive to have a bunch of Warjacks charge across a field rather than send many soldiers armed probably just as well as a couple warjacks and support them with obsolete tanks that still have the guns to pack the punch and are cheap to build.


Who said I would charge with Warjacks only? First infantry, then while the enemy is distracted fighting them, send the close quarters warjacks in to finish off the enemy.


I meant why they don't work for my doctrine. Whatever you do with them is all on you.

Warjack fits everyone huh? Some confidence there...ah but I can't complain. Whatever, like I said, all on you.

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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:30 pm

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:Warjack fits everyone huh? Some confidence there...ah but I can't complain. Whatever, like I said, all on you.




Cygnar wrote:First, the warjack doesnt fit the person, the person fits the warjack, and second the warjack is made to fit to almost everyone, minor adjustments can be made inside the armor.
Last edited by Cygnar on Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:31 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:31 pm

So a 4ft dwarf and Shaq can fit into Warjacks?
I'm really tired

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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:32 pm

And guys, the whole point of this being steampunk is that we use steampunk-ish stuff. If we all use ww1 tanks, planes and vehicles, it wouldnt be steampunk, it would be PT. Right?
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Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:34 pm

Cygnar wrote:And guys, the whole point of this being steampunk is that we use steampunk-ish stuff. If we all use ww1 tanks, planes and vehicles, it wouldnt be steampunk, it would be PT. Right?

Oh aye. Use it. Other might not however, and are giving there reasons not too. This RP is really Quasi-Steampunk BTW. And just make specs for the Warjack up.
I'm really tired

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Pavlostani
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Postby Pavlostani » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:34 pm

The Keystone Federation wrote:Does anyone have a prediction on when this Rp may be open? I have another nation that would fit perfectly for a Steampunk RP..

Probably when we have a colonial RP. We keep saying we'll have one, but we never get around to it. The last one we tried didn't go so well. It turned into a wankfest, if that's the right term.
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Postby Cygnar » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:36 pm

The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:
Cygnar wrote:And guys, the whole point of this being steampunk is that we use steampunk-ish stuff. If we all use ww1 tanks, planes and vehicles, it wouldnt be steampunk, it would be PT. Right?

Oh aye. Use it. Other might not however, and are giving there reasons not too. This RP is really Quasi-Steampunk BTW. And just make specs for the Warjack up.

Also, the guns some of the warjacks carry can be easily exchanged.
Vitzenburg wrote:Cygnar, high on powa! Just try to stop him! He'll sock ya in the mouth as his boys Vitz and Servoth come a knockin!

Cyprum Xecuii wrote:
Servoth wrote:Micro-dick.

Our micro dicks make lots of people. Your 'larger' dicks still create a .000000000000000000000001 % growth rate.
EASTERNERS UNITE!
Servoth wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:What burns in Life, itself burns in Death. To Hades is smote, thee who defy the Divine.


Divine! Bah! We could build a god from our own foundries.
Unidox wrote:LSD, no thanks. Give me some NSG.


Oh, hell yeah, thats the stuff...
♔ ||Cygnaran Königreich|| ♔
♔ ||Steampunk-Dieselpunk Nation|| ♔

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The Holy Dominion of Inesea
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Cygnar wrote:
The Holy Dominion of Inesea wrote:Oh aye. Use it. Other might not however, and are giving there reasons not too. This RP is really Quasi-Steampunk BTW. And just make specs for the Warjack up.

Also, the guns some of the warjacks carry can be easily exchanged.

exchanged or interchanged? And what is the generic mm of the guns?
I'm really tired

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Cyprum Xecuii
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Postby Cyprum Xecuii » Sun Jan 06, 2013 7:37 pm

Cygnar wrote:And guys, the whole point of this being steampunk is that we use steampunk-ish stuff. If we all use ww1 tanks, planes and vehicles, it wouldnt be steampunk, it would be PT. Right?


Errr...that's why I felt kind of Iffy doing this in the first place. Magor is more what you should be RPing in since regular vapor...has some odd restrictions despite being "steampunk". No radio until 1900s as Fan said, yet Vitz has his 'robotic soldiers' similar to your Warjacks in the V-land crisis (which is 1890s). Plus, we're already going onto diesel in the 1900s so where is the steam now? I may participate in Magor so I can do my Cypheri and super-steam tech thing but I'm too lazy to do anything now.

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