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What denomination are you?

Catholic,
261
30%
Mormon,
13
1%
Anglican,
38
4%
Orthodox,
54
6%
Baptist,
112
13%
Lutheran,
51
6%
Society of Friends,
8
1%
Episcopal,
27
3%
Mystic,
21
2%
Other
294
33%
 
Total votes : 879

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Prussia-Steinbach
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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:33 pm

Menassa wrote:Are Witnesses not Christians?

No.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Menassa wrote:Are Witnesses not Christians?

No.

Ahah.

By the way.... are you baptist?

Your fervor reminds me of baptism.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
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"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The Orson Empire » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Menassa wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:Nothing. And Jah is not simply a god.

Actually one of God's names is Kuh (replace that k with a y) so in German I assume it would be Juh.

Are Witnesses not Christians?

Nope.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:34 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:How do you determine morality? What is right and wrong? Who are you to tell anyone they are good or bad?


I thought we were still on the first question.

Please, answer any of them.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:35 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I thought we were still on the first question.

Please, answer any of them.


I like to go in normal order. I'll bring us back to the first question and once I feel it is resolved, we can go onto the rest.

Aren't you begging the question when you ask who decides right and wrong?

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:36 pm

Menassa wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:No.

Ahah.

By the way.... are you baptist?

Your fervor reminds me of baptism.

*sigh* Technically, I am Southern Baptist. However, I identify simply as a Calvinist, and there is plenty I disagree with the SBC and the rest of Baptistry on.

I am not a backwoods, Bible-thumping, country-church fundie, if that is what you are thinking, anyway.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:37 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Please, answer any of them.


I like to go in normal order. I'll bring us back to the first question and once I feel it is resolved, we can go onto the rest.

Aren't you begging the question when you ask who decides right and wrong?

Who or what. How. Answer it any way you like.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:38 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
The Mighty Warrior Horse wrote:I speak French in France, German in Germany, and mandarin in china.
I see no issue with calling god ja.

There is no problem with it. I simply will not call Him that.

Every time you type "Him" it makes me think H.I.M. :p

Now concerning Mormons, although some of their beliefs are...different then most of ours, if they are Christ-accepting brethren I don't see why they shouldn't be considered part of Christianity. They are however, definitely not mainstream.
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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:38 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Menassa wrote:Ahah.

By the way.... are you baptist?

Your fervor reminds me of baptism.

*sigh* Technically, I am Southern Baptist. However, I identify simply as a Calvinist, and there is plenty I disagree with the SBC and the rest of Baptistry on.

I am not a backwoods, Bible-thumping, country-church fundie, if that is what you are thinking, anyway.

Ah Calvinism.... interesting.

What do you disagree with?
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:38 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:There is no problem with it. I simply will not call Him that.

Every time you type "Him" it makes me think H.I.M. :p

Now concerning Mormons, although some of their beliefs are...different then most of ours, if they are Christ-accepting brethren I don't see why they shouldn't be considered part of Christianity. They are however, definitely not mainstream.

So you think Witnesses are Christian.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:40 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I like to go in normal order. I'll bring us back to the first question and once I feel it is resolved, we can go onto the rest.

Aren't you begging the question when you ask who decides right and wrong?

Who or what. How. Answer it any way you like.


I advocate for the science of morality as described by Joseph Daledin and Sam Harris.

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:41 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who or what. How. Answer it any way you like.


I advocate for the science of morality as described by Joseph Daledin and Sam Harris.

May I ask why?
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Postby Reggae Magmia » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Menassa wrote:
Reggae Magmia wrote:Every time you type "Him" it makes me think H.I.M. :p

Now concerning Mormons, although some of their beliefs are...different then most of ours, if they are Christ-accepting brethren I don't see why they shouldn't be considered part of Christianity. They are however, definitely not mainstream.

So you think Witnesses are Christian.

Imo, yes.
This is no longer my main nation (got bored with it).

Switching over to Ancient Magmia

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:42 pm

Menassa wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:*sigh* Technically, I am Southern Baptist. However, I identify simply as a Calvinist, and there is plenty I disagree with the SBC and the rest of Baptistry on.

I am not a backwoods, Bible-thumping, country-church fundie, if that is what you are thinking, anyway.

Ah Calvinism.... interesting.

What do you disagree with?

Eh. Several things. Calvinism being the main, big-time difference. The SBC is not Calvinist - they're Arminian, the heretical bastards.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:43 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I advocate for the science of morality as described by Joseph Daledin and Sam Harris.

May I ask why?


I believe that it is the best explanation of natural ethics.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:43 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Prussia-Steinbach wrote:Who or what. How. Answer it any way you like.


I advocate for the science of morality as described by Joseph Daledin and Sam Harris.

You know, I wish I felt like looking up who those people are.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:43 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:May I ask why?


I believe that it is the best explanation of natural ethics.

Ah, and what denomination are you?
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:44 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I believe that it is the best explanation of natural ethics.

Ah, and what denomination are you?

He's not Christian.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby The United Soviet Socialist Republic » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:45 pm

Menassa wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Ah, and what denomination are you?

He's not Christian.

Oh. Is he an atheist? A Jew? Or what?
Gay and Proudand also a brony
Political Compass:Left: 7.76, Authoritarian: 5.6
I am: Fascist/Corporatist on economy,
Conservative on social issues(Support same sex marriage),
Anti secularist on religion,
Anti-Republican on government,
Interventionist/Imperialist on international issues

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:46 pm

Reggae Magmia wrote:
Menassa wrote:So you think Witnesses are Christian.

Imo, yes.

If I denied practically all aspects of mainstream Christianity, except for Christ being the Saviour, would you say I was Christian?
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:46 pm

Prussia-Steinbach wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I advocate for the science of morality as described by Joseph Daledin and Sam Harris.

You know, I wish I felt like looking up who those people are.


I didn't want to bore you with a long argument for it.

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Postby Menassa » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:46 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Menassa wrote:He's not Christian.

Oh. Is he an atheist? A Jew? Or what?

I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.
Remember what Amalek did to you on your journey --- Do not Forget!
Their hollow inheritance.
This is my god and I shall exalt him
Jewish Discussion Thread בְּ
"A missionary uses the Bible like a drunk uses a lamppost, not so much for illumination, but for support"
"Imagine of a bunch of Zulu tribesmen told Congress how to read the Constitution, that's how it feels to a Jew when you tell us how to read our bible"
"God said: you must teach, as I taught, without a fee."
"Against your will you are formed, against your will you are born, against your will you live, against your will you die, and against your will you are destined to give a judgement and accounting before the king, king of all kings..."

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:47 pm

The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
Typhlochactas wrote:
I believe that it is the best explanation of natural ethics.

Ah, and what denomination are you?

He isn't Christian.

I am betting on secular humanism, myself.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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Postby Typhlochactas » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:47 pm

Menassa wrote:
The United Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:Oh. Is he an atheist? A Jew? Or what?

I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.


My answer to the question of the existence of god is ''How do you define god?''. From there, I can tell if I believe in 'god' or not.

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Postby Prussia-Steinbach » Thu Dec 27, 2012 11:49 pm

Typhlochactas wrote:
Menassa wrote:I believe he's some sort of Deist type.... but he can best answer for himself.


My answer to the question of the existence of god is ''How do you define god?''. From there, I can tell if I believe in 'god' or not.

Ah. Ignostic, I assume.
I don't care if people hate my guts; I assume most of them do.
The question is whether they are in a position to do anything about it. ― William S. Burroughs


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