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What are you grateful to God for?

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What are you grateful to God for?

1. Family
15
11%
2. Kids
0
No votes
3. The chance to have life
30
22%
4. Having created you
16
12%
5. Giving you what you have prayed for
6
4%
6. Grateful God has turned your life around
6
4%
7. Other (please list it below)
63
46%
 
Total votes : 136

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Vareiln
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Postby Vareiln » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:44 pm

If there's a god, then I have nothing to be grateful for from him.

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The Multiversal Species Alliance
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Postby The Multiversal Species Alliance » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:44 pm

Which God or Goddess? There is an infinite number of them, which should I thank? The Abrahamic God? Brahma? Zeus? Aphrodite? Odin? Celestia? Luna? Pele? Violet? Khorne? Slaneesh? Satan? Freyja?
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Postby Seperates » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:44 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:So God didn't make the evil things? That means he's not omnipotent.

There are no evil objects, only evil wills.

Then from where does evil will come from?
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Postby Romalae » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:44 pm

For giving me the winning ticket in life's lottery (being born in a first world nation).
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:44 pm

New Cardelle wrote:Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

Go to church if you want to praise god. That's literally the entire point of the place.
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Postby Divair » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

The Multiversal Species Alliance wrote:Which God or Goddess? There is an infinite number of them, which should I thank? The Abrahamic God? Brahma? Zeus? Aphrodite? Odin? Celestia? Luna? Pele? Violet? Khorne? Slaneesh? Satan? Freyja?

All of them at once.

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Postby Enadail » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

San Leggera wrote:
Nidaria wrote:There are no evil objects, only evil wills.

Hurricanes are evil objects. Explain that.


Meh, hurricanes are not evil... hell, they're necessary for environmental balance. Their interactions with humanity can lead to bad things happening, but they're not evil.

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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

New Cardelle wrote:Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

Welcome to NSG. This is a debate forum. You have a lot to learn about the people here. I would suggest not posting a religious thread. These people will eat you alive.

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New Cardelle
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Postby New Cardelle » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

It was a discussion on our love for god!

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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Frisivisia wrote:So God didn't make the evil things? That means he's not omnipotent.

There are no evil objects, only evil wills.

God creates everything, including wills, right? Do you want to re-open the free-will argument I crushed you in?
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Postby Choronzon » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

New Cardelle wrote:Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

That is most certainly not the purpose of this forum.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:45 pm

New Cardelle wrote:
Cannot think of a name wrote:Thread, the forum was intended for debate. And write, not right.

I think we already wrecked your thread. We can't have nice things. Sorry man.


It wasn't for debate it was for people to write things in praise of god.

I wasn't clear enough. This is a thread. The place the thread is in is the forum. It's a confusion of terms. However, if you put a thread in a debate forum regardless of intent it can (and will) turn into a debate. We don't have to be dicks about it, but we can't have everything...
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Nidaria
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Postby Nidaria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Seperates wrote:
Nidaria wrote:Everything good, then. My apologies for your lack of ability to read between the lines.

So your god didn't create everything?

As well, define 'good'.

God did create everything. As I said, rebellion against God brought evil into the world.

Good, as per traditional morality, is that which is in accord with the will of God.
"He who denies the existence of God has some reason for wishing that God did not exist." --St. Augustine
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Frisivisia
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Romalae wrote:For giving me the winning ticket in life's lottery (being born in a first world nation).

Also: Being white, male, and upper middle class.
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Choronzon
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Postby Choronzon » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

New Cardelle wrote:It was a discussion on our love for god!

No it wasn't. You asked what we were thankful for. Some of us are not thankful to your god in any capacity. We're allowed to voice that.
Last edited by Choronzon on Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm, edited 1 time in total.

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San Leggera
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Postby San Leggera » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

New Cardelle wrote:It was a discussion on our love for god!

You're embarrassing yourself. If you're going to start capitalising the first letter of his name, at least stick to it, for christ's sake.
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New Cardelle
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Postby New Cardelle » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

I am respectful to Atheist threads so I belive I ame entitled to the same respect of my forum.

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Divair
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Postby Divair » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

New Cardelle wrote:It was a discussion on our love for god!

If all you are going to do is discuss the Christian god in general, then go post in the Christian discussion thread. No need for another one.

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Postby Cannot think of a name » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

Romalae wrote:For giving me the winning ticket in life's lottery (being born in a first world nation).

It is a pretty sweet deal.
"...I have been gravely disappointed with the white moderate. I have almost reached the regrettable conclusion that the Negro's great stumbling block in the stride toward freedom is not the White Citizen's Council-er or the Ku Klux Klanner, but the white moderate who is more devoted to "order" than to justice; who prefers a negative peace which is the absence of tension to a positive peace which is the presence of justice; who constantly says "I agree with you in the goal you seek, but I can't agree with your methods of direct action;" who paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." -MLK Jr.

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Wisconsin9
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:46 pm

New Cardelle wrote:It was a discussion on our love for god!

It's not a discussion if everyone is saying exactly the same thing.
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Postby The Orson Empire » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

New Cardelle wrote:I am respectful to Atheist threads so I belive I ame entitled to the same respect of my forum.

This is a debate forum, not a pulpit. Trust me on this.

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Frisivisia
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Postby Frisivisia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Nidaria wrote:
Seperates wrote:So your god didn't create everything?

As well, define 'good'.

God did create everything. As I said, rebellion against God brought evil into the world.

Good, as per traditional morality, is that which is in accord with the will of God.

When you consider that God and Free Will can't exist in the same universe, your argument kinda falls to shit.
Impeach The Queen, Legalize Anarchy, Stealing Things Is Not Theft. Sex Pistols 2017.
I'm the evil gubmint PC inspector, here to take your Guns, outlaw your God, and steal your freedom and give it to black people.
I'm Joe Biden. So far as you know.

For: Anarchy, Punk Rock Fury
Against: Thatcher, Fascists, That Fascist Thatcher, Reagan, Nazi Punks, Everyone
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

New Cardelle wrote:I am respectful to Atheist threads so I belive I ame entitled to the same respect of my forum.

Hmm... nah.
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Nidaria
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Postby Nidaria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

Frisivisia wrote:
Nidaria wrote:There are no evil objects, only evil wills.

God creates everything, including wills, right? Do you want to re-open the free-will argument I crushed you in?

On the contrary, individuals decide their wills. And no, you certainly did not crush me.
"He who denies the existence of God has some reason for wishing that God did not exist." --St. Augustine
"There is only one difference between genius and stupidity: genius has limits." --Albert Einstein
"When statesmen forsake their own private conscience for the sake of their public duties... they lead their country by a short route to chaos." --St. Thomas More
Anti-gay, Pro-life, Traditionalist, Libertarian, Non-interventionist, Loyal Roman Catholic
Cosmopolitan/Nationalistic 25%
Secular/Fundamentalist 67%
Visionary/Reactionary 21%
Anarchistic/Authoritarian 6%
Communist/Capitalist 41%
Pacifist/Militaristic 7%
Ecological/Anthropocentric 52%

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Postby The Tiger Kingdom » Wed Dec 19, 2012 3:47 pm

New Cardelle wrote:Everyone in here is off topic, the purpose of this forum is to praise God!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAHOOOOOO!
Oh boy. Man, you have got a lot to learn.
I guess I'm grateful that he doesn't exist to smite me and all my kine/descendants like he's so apparently fond of doing. And I guess if he does exist (which he doesn't), we should be grateful he hasn't decided to mow us down yet, like he also allows all the time.
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