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Sedgistan
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Postby Sedgistan » Wed Oct 24, 2012 5:04 pm

I haven't read the whole discussion here, but I can say this - the civil rights stats for that issue are probably going to be changed. Thanks for pointing it out, Sayyid.

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Sayyidonia
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Postby Sayyidonia » Sun Oct 28, 2012 11:06 am

Issue #61 (granting estates/titles of nobility) might be worth looking into as well. Maybe it's just because my political and economic rights are already reasonably high, but it gave me a big civil rights effect without any change to political or economic freedom when I picked option #2 (let people rise/fall on their own merits). A feudal system, I would think, would impact all three detrimentally -- and vice versa. You live wherever and marry whomever the Lord tells you (civil rights), work when and where the Lord tells you (economic rights), and my understanding is that titles of nobility don't get voted upon (political rights). Given that assumption, I was hoping that I'd at least get a boost to my political freedoms from banning it. If I'd thought it was going to be just civil rights, I might have gone feudal...

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Christian Democrats
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:39 pm

Issue 165: Wedlock Worries, Option 3

"That's crazy!" says Mark Spirit, your Minister of Domestic Affairs. "Everyone knows that the people who screw your life up most are your parents! And now you consider letting them to decide whom you marry?! I think we, the government, should arrange all marriages by national census. Distribute everyone to a place and person in an economically stimulating way - why, we'd solve the housing problems just like that! Especially if we dismiss outmoded things like divorce and monogamy! This could be a golden opportunity for us."

It should say "whom you marry." It is not correct for someone to say "who you marry."

EDIT: Also, it would read better if the word "to" were removed.

"And now you consider letting them decide whom you marry?!"
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

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Issue #284, Drug Legality Run Amok

Postby Aibohphobia » Tue Oct 30, 2012 10:18 pm

Drug Legality Run Amok

"has run", or "ran", or "runs", maybe?

4. "Also alcohol!" screams protesting teetotaler...

Should be "teetotaller" (two "l").

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Oct 31, 2012 6:49 am

Aibohphobia wrote:
4. "Also alcohol!" screams protesting teetotaler...

Should be "teetotaller" (two "l").

Both are acceptable. It's one of those American-English/British-English conflicts.
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Postby Aibohphobia » Wed Oct 31, 2012 4:58 pm

Sanctaria wrote:Both are acceptable. It's one of those American-English/British-English conflicts.

Hmm... Thank you. I shall make more research into AE then :-\

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Postby Hugoland » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:00 pm

"5 hours ago: Following new legislation in Hugoland, vanity is considered the eighth cardinal virtue." - This is taken from the beauty contest issue. There is an error here, as the issue pressuposes that there are seven cardinal virtures, where in fact, they are four, v.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_virtues . This might be a confusion with the seven virtues opposed to the seven capital sins, v.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_si ... en_Virtues .

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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Nov 21, 2012 12:05 pm

Hugoland wrote:"5 hours ago: Following new legislation in Hugoland, vanity is considered the eighth cardinal virtue." - This is taken from the beauty contest issue. There is an error here, as the issue pressuposes that there are seven cardinal virtures, where in fact, they are four, v.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cardinal_virtues . This might be a confusion with the seven virtues opposed to the seven capital sins, v.g. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_si ... en_Virtues .

Yeah, I think "cardinal" needs to be take out. There does exist something called the seven virtues, which includes the four cardinal ones, which I'm assuming this effect was supposed to put forward.

So yeah, omission of the word "cardinal", I think. AFAIK the seven are called "heavenly virtues".
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Postby Atmos » Fri Nov 23, 2012 11:46 am

It's my first time addressing an issue and I'm not sure if questioning the effects of an issue should be raised in this or some other thread, but feel free to correct me if I'm in the wrong place.

That said, Option 4 of Issue 312 "The Empire Strikes First?" should probably have its effects examined slightly. Specifically, I expected a far greater increase in Pacifism than I saw, and in general it seems there should be more areas affected. Things like Niceness, Safety, perhaps even Lifespan and Old Age could all have at least a small positive bump. On the other end, there should have also have been a decrease in the Arms Manufacturing Industry, of which I saw none.

I realize the effects sometimes vary based on the nation, but I thought I'd point it out in case someone wanted to take a peek at the issue. The choice definitely seems dramatic enough to have more dramatic effects.
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Postby Christian Democrats » Sat Nov 24, 2012 12:23 am

Issue 190, Option 4

"It's not our war? It's not our war?" cries (in)famous Christian Democrats-born fascist Tim Sanchez. "Well maybe it's time it became our war! Christian Democrats should take a more active, and by 'active' I mean 'hostile', role in international politics! This ethnic squabbling will be over when the war is over, and WE can end that war and purge the impure! Iēsvs via et vēritās et vīta est! Sieg Christian Democrats!"

The last sentence is obviously a reference to the Nazi cry sieg heil! In German, the phrase "sieg heil" means "hail victory." Thus, "Sieg Christian Democrats!" means "Victory Christian Democrats!" It would make a lot more sense, in my opinion, for the option to say "Heil Christian Democrats!" This could still be a Nazi reference, but the reference would be to the phrase "Heil Hitler!" Another possible change could be to the phrase "Heil @@LEADER@@!" To say "Victory Christian Democrats!" doesn't make much sense.
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GA#160: Forced Marriages Ban Act (79%)
GA#175: Organ and Blood Donations Act (68%)^
SC#082: Repeal "Liberate Catholic" (80%)
GA#200: Foreign Marriage Recognition (54%)
GA#213: Privacy Protection Act (70%)
GA#231: Marital Rape Justice Act (81%)^
GA#233: Ban Profits on Workers' Deaths (80%)*
GA#249: Stopping Suicide Seeds (70%)^
GA#253: Repeal "Freedom in Medical Research" (76%)
GA#285: Assisted Suicide Act (70%)^
GA#310: Disabled Voters Act (81%)
GA#373: Repeal "Convention on Execution" (54%)
GA#468: Prohibit Private Prisons (57%)^

* denotes coauthorship
^ repealed resolution
#360: Electile Dysfunction
#452: Foetal Furore
#560: Bicameral Backlash
#570: Clerical Errors

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United States of Natan
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:24 am

the issue "Need for Speed" has the word kilometers spelled wrong.
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Luna Amore
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Postby Luna Amore » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:40 am

United States of Natan wrote:the issue "Need for Speed" has the word kilometers spelled wrong.

Both kilometer and kilometre are correct.

Considering America doesn't use the metric system, it'd be weird to use the American 'kilometer' spelling I think. :p

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United States of Natan
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Postby United States of Natan » Sat Nov 24, 2012 10:57 am

Luna Amore wrote:
United States of Natan wrote:the issue "Need for Speed" has the word kilometers spelled wrong.

Both kilometer and kilometre are correct.

Considering America doesn't use the metric system, it'd be weird to use the American 'kilometer' spelling I think. :p

oh, I did not know it could be spelled that way.
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Issue #159

Postby Aibohphobia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 4:53 pm

Once again, a nation with no prisons got this issue. How very strange. Apparently, no prisons are also considered "an underfunded prison system".

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Sun Nov 25, 2012 5:39 pm

Aibohphobia wrote:Once again, a nation with no prisons got this issue. How very strange. Apparently, no prisons are also considered "an underfunded prison system".

Just because a possible error was reported in this thread, doesn't mean it was instantly fixed. We tend to let them pile up and do a whole batch at once. Also, we have a new Issues Tech who is evaluating several areas of inconsistencies within the issue library. I'm sure he'll eventually reconcile the prisons, but he's got other priorities at present.

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Postby Aibohphobia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 11:48 pm

Frisbeeteria wrote:Just because a possible error was reported in this thread, doesn't mean it was instantly fixed. We tend to let them pile up and do a whole batch at once. Also, we have a new Issues Tech who is evaluating several areas of inconsistencies within the issue library. I'm sure he'll eventually reconcile the prisons, but he's got other priorities at present.

Thank you.

First time I mentioned that problem in this thread, I forgot the issue number and didn't specify it. This new post was made for the sole purpose of rectifying my past mistake.

And this is the second issue with the same problem that I have mentioned beforehand.

I will eventually compile every inconsistency that I have found into a single post :?




Issue #285, A Right Not to Work?

I think, including the national religion into that issue was a mistake. I might be wrong.
High ranking officials and devout followers of @@FAITH@@ have requested that the government close down retail stores during the Sabbath in accordance to their religious views.

Everyone knows "Sabbath" is a holiday of a very particular religion. In my humble opinion, either "Sabbath" should be substituted by "holiday" or "their sacred holiday" (something more general) or @@FAITH@@ by "Judaism". Otherwise, it just doesn't work, semantically.
Also, it doesn't really correlate with the original issue that sets the value of @@FAITH@@. I'm pretty sure Violent Violetists don't celebrate Sabbath and neither do the followers of my personality cult :lol:
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Postby Republic Of Hell » Wed Dec 05, 2012 1:19 pm

Issue 239, option 1:

"Yes, yes!" cries Zeke Malik, waving a wooden sword enthusiastically. "You've gotta do this, man! Gladiator fights are like the ultimate in spectator sports! And it doesn't just have to be people! We could pit man against Psyker! Blade against claw! Nothing to their names but their wits and their stamina! You'd have to pay people a lot to risk their lives doing this but I bet you'd earn a whole lot more from merchandise and wagers and stuff!"

Shouldn't it be "men against Psykers?"...

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Postby Frisbeeteria » Wed Dec 05, 2012 4:34 pm

Republic Of Hell wrote:Shouldn't it be "men against Psykers?"...

Psyker is your national animal. We have no way of determining the plural of a player-supplied value, so we use the singular (or plural, your choice).

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Postby Coffin-Breathe » Fri Dec 07, 2012 4:56 pm

Aibohphobia wrote:Once again, a nation with no prisons got this issue. How very strange. Apparently, no prisons are also considered "an underfunded prison system".


If "no prison" means, no "prisonrelated issues", then there also shouldn´t be a "new religious advisor" for a nation where religion is banned, no "military budget issue" for a nation without a military, and, oh, I so like to say this, no "private business-related issues/options", when "private business is illegal"...

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Aibohphobia
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Postby Aibohphobia » Mon Dec 17, 2012 11:48 pm

Coffin-Breathe wrote:If "no prison" means, no "prisonrelated issues", then there also shouldn´t be a "new religious advisor" for a nation where religion is banned, no "military budget issue" for a nation without a military, and, oh, I so like to say this, no "private business-related issues/options", when "private business is illegal"...

Not sure if this was supposed to be sarcasm or not, but that's how it should happen (ideally).
There are, however, no issues for banning the military (as far as I know), you can only decrease military spendings. As for private enterprises, there are real life examples of how they can exist within economies that prohibit them (kids selling lemonade on the sidewalk, yeah).
Give me a historical example of someone building a prison in a country where they are prohibited. It never happened. Ever.


Issue #250: Recession, Depression, And Deficit
5. "Deregulation isn't the problem - quite the opposite," suggests Al McGuffin, representative of a consortium of banks and major corporations. "Government checks and balances and competition laws have been the grasping stranglehold on the economy's throat for far too long. Do you really think corporations would allow the economy to suffer like this if it had full control? No, it would not. It is bad for business and what's bad for business needs to be removed. If you want this nation to survive, the market must be freed from these shackles."

Should be:
Do you really think corporations would allow the economy to suffer like this if they had full control?

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Postby Delfinoland » Wed Dec 19, 2012 8:08 am

On the WA issue, when you decide to stay in the WA:

Following new legislation in Delfinoland, dozens of additional foreign policy specialists have been sent to the country’s WA Mission.

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Sanctaria
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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:02 am

Delfinoland wrote:On the WA issue, when you decide to stay in the WA:

Following new legislation in Delfinoland, dozens of additional foreign policy specialists have been sent to the country’s WA Mission.

Yeah, I see how that happened.

An admin/game mod will fix this as soon as they see this. As opposed to a grammar/spelling issue, this is a priority fix. :)

Thanks for the report.
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Postby Ballotonia » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:19 am

Sanctaria wrote:An admin/game mod will fix this as soon as they see this. As opposed to a grammar/spelling issue, this is a priority fix. :)

Thanks for the report.


Fixed for all new cases from here on out. I hope you understand I will not hunt through NS to fix all nation event logs as well. As nations answer more issues the bad characters in the logs will vanish by themselves, as nations only remember the event texts from the past 4 issues answered.

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Postby Sanctaria » Wed Dec 19, 2012 11:29 am

Ballotonia wrote:
Sanctaria wrote:An admin/game mod will fix this as soon as they see this. As opposed to a grammar/spelling issue, this is a priority fix. :)

Thanks for the report.


Fixed for all new cases from here on out. I hope you understand I will not hunt through NS to fix all nation event logs as well. As nations answer more issues the bad characters in the logs will vanish by themselves, as nations only remember the event texts from the past 4 issues answered.

Ballotonia

Wouldn't expect you to :p

Thanks Ballo!
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Dr. Bethany Greer CMD, Sanctarian Ambassador to the World Assembly
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Frisbeeteria wrote:Do people not realize that moderators can tell when someone is wanking?

Luna Amore wrote:Sanc is always watching. Ever vigilant.

Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

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Postby Miltonan » Sat Jan 19, 2013 11:48 am

Some of the issues do not clearly differentiate whether they are for the public sector or private sector or both. For example I read the surveillance camera one as banning it for the government but it appears that I have banned it for all. Also on the Pot smoking one. I would like pot to be legal but employers to be able to fire workers who use it It if they choose to. The only choices I have though are legal and banned in public. I am not sure if choosing legal will prevent businesses from firing workers who use or not. Thanks

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