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[Soviet Canuckistan]

What do you expect? That when Russia was not RPed that there was no military force in Moscow? And just because I have been on for one day in this RP does not justify that I am a godmod. What about you? How long have you been in this RP?

He's been here since December 8th, got his old account deleted(founded April 2012) and is now using this new one of his.

[Vehemia]

Just when I thought we had settled things down NST stirs it up again.

[The New Sea Territory]

I think a lot of these problems stem from the fact we had a Russian player join, post once, then evaporate.

Yep.

But, I even asked Delanshar if I could take Russia. He said wait three days.
Then Aeken came, and he assumed he would decimate me. But he was wrong. He underestimated me, and is getting beaten. Now, he screams GODMOD!!! because he is losing. If he were winning, he wouldn't have said anything.


The fact is that Russia makes the Middle east look like political heaven. And that the RNU is HUGE! Like, Cordis Die from Black Ops 2 Huge.

I was one of the original players.


@Vehemia: That is trying to get me to say stuff.

[Machtergreifung]

The Vityazi have captured 3 Federal officials.

Godmodding^^, thus you are a godmodder. Also, you're a rebel force not a state of the art military, how would you get anything ultra-modern, I can under stand some old tanks but not state-of-the-art weapons.

Even now, AFAIU the Russian Armed Forces are still leaking equipment like a water from a tap. Certainly you'd not be able to make a brigade of T-90's disappear, but plenty of personal arms and older equipment will be un-accounted for.

If the RNU player was really smart, he'd have attacked the storage warehouses of all the old Cold War and WW2 equipment that would have had a dew dozen guards at most.

[The New Sea Territory]

Godmodding^^, thus you are a godmodder. Also, you're a rebel force not a state of the art military, how would you get anything ultra-modern, I can under stand some old tanks but not state-of-the-art weapons.

Even now, AFAIU the Russian Armed Forces are still leaking equipment like a water from a tap. Certainly you'd not be able to make a brigade of T-90's disappear, but plenty of personal arms and older equipment will be un-accounted for.

If the RNU player was really smart, he'd have attacked the storage warehouses of all the old Cold War and WW2 equipment that would have had a dew dozen guards at most.

Thanks for the Idea.

And for the last time: I didn't buy the T-90s from Russia. China was implied, because it is so corrupt, but others use it.

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I think a lot of these problems stem from the fact we had a Russian player join, post once, then evaporate.

Yep.

But, I even asked Delanshar if I could take Russia. He said wait three days.
Then Aeken came, and he assumed he would decimate me. But he was wrong. He underestimated me, and is getting beaten. Now, he screams GODMOD!!! because he is losing. If he were winning, he wouldn't have said anything.


The fact is that Russia makes the Middle east look like political heaven. And that the RNU is HUGE! Like, Cordis Die from Black Ops 2 Huge.

I was one of the original players.


@Vehemia: That is trying to get me to say stuff.

1.He's OP, it's all his decision
2.Since you godmodded, you assume you're beating him
3.Cordis Die is fictional, this RP has a mostly-RL basis
4.Good for you, that doesn't make you better than anyone else.

[Aeken]

I think a lot of these problems stem from the fact we had a Russian player join, post once, then evaporate.

Yep.

But, I even asked Delanshar if I could take Russia. He said wait three days.
Then Aeken came, and he assumed he would decimate me. But he was wrong. He underestimated me, and is getting beaten. Now, he screams GODMOD!!! because he is losing. If he were winning, he wouldn't have said anything.


The fact is that Russia makes the Middle east look like political heaven. And that the RNU is HUGE! Like, Cordis Die from Black Ops 2 Huge.

I was one of the original players.


@Vehemia: That is trying to get me to say stuff.

Why are you complaining that I don't want to concede. That is not it. You are very misguided on my intentions.

I could switch back to Kazahkstan, my original choice, but it should be up to Del.

[Vehemia]

Godmodding^^, thus you are a godmodder. Also, you're a rebel force not a state of the art military, how would you get anything ultra-modern, I can under stand some old tanks but not state-of-the-art weapons.

Even now, AFAIU the Russian Armed Forces are still leaking equipment like a water from a tap. Certainly you'd not be able to make a brigade of T-90's disappear, but plenty of personal arms and older equipment will be un-accounted for.

If the RNU player was really smart, he'd have attacked the storage warehouses of all the old Cold War and WW2 equipment that would have had a dew dozen guards at most.

I'd be fine with taking t-55s and t-72s, but t-90s and experimental fighters?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

Even now, AFAIU the Russian Armed Forces are still leaking equipment like a water from a tap. Certainly you'd not be able to make a brigade of T-90's disappear, but plenty of personal arms and older equipment will be un-accounted for.

If the RNU player was really smart, he'd have attacked the storage warehouses of all the old Cold War and WW2 equipment that would have had a dew dozen guards at most.

Thanks for the Idea.

And for the last time: I didn't buy the T-90s from Russia. China was implied, because it is so corrupt, but others use it.

China doesn't own T-90s

[The New Sea Territory]

Even now, AFAIU the Russian Armed Forces are still leaking equipment like a water from a tap. Certainly you'd not be able to make a brigade of T-90's disappear, but plenty of personal arms and older equipment will be un-accounted for.

If the RNU player was really smart, he'd have attacked the storage warehouses of all the old Cold War and WW2 equipment that would have had a dew dozen guards at most.

I'd be fine with taking t-55s and t-72s, but t-90s and experimental fighters?

I said I got confused with the PAK FAs. I'll change those. However, anything is possible with money.
If you read the IC, you'll see I got the money, the troops, the planning, the support, the time, the leaders, the power.

How does China not own T-90s if he sent some to Cuba?

[Soviet Canuckistan]

I'd be fine with taking t-55s and t-72s, but t-90s and experimental fighters?

I said I got confused with the PAK FAs. I'll change those. However, anything is possible with money.
If you read the IC, you'll see I got the money, the troops, the planning, the support, the time, the leaders, the power.

How does China not own T-90s if he sent some to Cuba?

Russia also has what you have and more and that is China's problem

[Minnysota]

And he said in a TG to me that he would if I started flying people out.

AKA, you relinquish the island. Nothing short of surrendering the island will save your 2,000+ troops there.

[The New Sea Territory]

I said I got confused with the PAK FAs. I'll change those. However, anything is possible with money.
If you read the IC, you'll see I got the money, the troops, the planning, the support, the time, the leaders, the power.

How does China not own T-90s if he sent some to Cuba?

Russia also has what you have and more and that is China's problem

Ok. He has "ballistic Missiles" and all his ORBAT that was only an ORBAT. Outstanding!

Yes Cordis Die was fake, but it is possible. Now, I'm not saying 2 billion are under my control, but at least half of Russia is.


Delanshar will decide, and I would like to have everything told to him CALMLY before he makes his decision. I'll leave, but only if he tells me to.

Vehemia is saying "Russia has foreign support". What troops were sent? Other than Cuba?

[Machtergreifung]

And he said in a TG to me that he would if I started flying people out.

AKA, you relinquish the island. Nothing short of surrendering the island will save your 2,000+ troops there.

Well, bombardment won't kill them all if they're spread out over the island so that gives the US no choice but to starve them out or fight them out foxhole by foxhole.

[New Nassrau]

I'd be fine with taking t-55s and t-72s, but t-90s and experimental fighters?

I said I got confused with the PAK FAs. I'll change those. However, anything is possible with money.
If you read the IC, you'll see I got the money, the troops, the planning, the support, the time, the leaders, the power.

How does China not own T-90s if he sent some to Cuba?

Welp, China is mistaken, thus Cuba can't have T-90's either.

The states that have T-90's are India which would never give them to you
Cyprus, which would never give them to you
Azerbajan and Turkmenistan which have so few it would be noticeable
India which wouldn't give them to you
Algeria, however there's no way in hell your boats wouldn't be spotted carrying T-90's
And finally Russia which you already know the answer to that

All of these states own T-90s as their main battle tank, not reserve so it would be very noticable if they were gone

[Minnysota]

Well, bombardment won't kill them all if they're spread out over the island so that gives the US no choice but to starve them out or fight them out foxhole by foxhole.

>bomb the defenses
>land in an organized fashion after bombings are complete
>US thoroughly trashes the Brazilians

You can't deny the effectiveness of bombing a force that has had under 14 days to entrench. Hell, the roll even declared that your defenses have been hit pretty badly. You're in no position to be saying that you could make this bloody, because you can't unless the US just swims ashore from their ships.

EDIT: Starving out the troops would also work, though. Destroying your logistical force wouldn't be difficult at all. Hell, the USN could quite easily obliterate your fleet. If they wanted to go the time-consuming way and just starve you out, they could do that with literally no contest.

[Machtergreifung]

Well, bombardment won't kill them all if they're spread out over the island so that gives the US no choice but to starve them out or fight them out foxhole by foxhole.

>bomb the defenses
>land in an organized fashion after bombings are complete
>US thoroughly trashes the Brazilians

You can't deny the effectiveness of bombing a force that has had under 14 days to entrench. Hell, the roll even declared that your defenses have been hit pretty badly. You're in no position to be saying that you could make this bloody, because you can't unless the US just swims ashore from their ships.

Sure but bombing a foxhole makes...a bigger hole and if these 14 days have led to such poor defenses, then what am I losing? I fail to see how you can actually destroy a defensive system comprised of trenches and foxholes, which has been one of my arguements from the start, but if you say it's possible, then it must be.

Certainly, the outcome is a forgone conclusion, but unless America tags every Brazilian foxhole and trench with a missile, then the troops still need to get ashore to physicaly take the island. Sea or air, the Americans are still going to take losses when they land. Not as much as the Brazilian troops will lose, but losses regardless.

[Bojikami]

I said I got confused with the PAK FAs. I'll change those. However, anything is possible with money.
If you read the IC, you'll see I got the money, the troops, the planning, the support, the time, the leaders, the power.

How does China not own T-90s if he sent some to Cuba?

Welp, China is mistaken, thus Cuba can't have T-90's either.

The states that have T-90's are India which would never give them to you
Cyprus, which would never give them to you
Azerbajan and Turkmenistan which have so few it would be noticeable
India which wouldn't give them to you
Algeria, however there's no way in hell your boats wouldn't be spotted carrying T-90's
And finally Russia which you already know the answer to that

All of these states own T-90s as their main battle tank, not reserve so it would be very noticable if they were gone

I meant the Type-99's.

[New Nassrau]

Yes, there will be losses, thus you must remember the US has air superiority, think airstrikes stop when they land? They won't

[Aeken]

>bomb the defenses
>land in an organized fashion after bombings are complete
>US thoroughly trashes the Brazilians

You can't deny the effectiveness of bombing a force that has had under 14 days to entrench. Hell, the roll even declared that your defenses have been hit pretty badly. You're in no position to be saying that you could make this bloody, because you can't unless the US just swims ashore from their ships.

Sure but bombing a foxhole makes...a bigger hole and if these 14 days have led to such poor defenses, then what am I losing? I fail to see how you can actually destroy a defensive system comprised of trenches and foxholes, which has been one of my arguements from the start, but if you say it's possible, then it must be.

Certainly, the outcome is a forgone conclusion, but unless America tags every Brazilian foxhole and trench with a missile, then the troops still need to get ashore to physicaly take the island. Sea or air, the Americans are still going to take losses when they land. Not as much as the Brazilian troops will lose, but losses regardless.

Not neccesarily. A simple blockade would do the job. Evac civilians using a scapegoat, and systematically starve the Brazilian troops.

[Machtergreifung]

Yes, there will be losses, thus you must remember the US has air superiority, think airstrikes stop when they land? They won't

They've not got a infinte supply of munitions. At the current rate, they need to send replenishment ships sometime shortly. Even so, the Americans are expending expensive munitions to destroy squad and company sized formations.

Sure but bombing a foxhole makes...a bigger hole and if these 14 days have led to such poor defenses, then what am I losing? I fail to see how you can actually destroy a defensive system comprised of trenches and foxholes, which has been one of my arguements from the start, but if you say it's possible, then it must be.

Certainly, the outcome is a forgone conclusion, but unless America tags every Brazilian foxhole and trench with a missile, then the troops still need to get ashore to physicaly take the island. Sea or air, the Americans are still going to take losses when they land. Not as much as the Brazilian troops will lose, but losses regardless.

Not neccesarily. A simple blockade would do the job. Evac civilians using a scapegoat, and systematically starve the Brazilian troops.

Exactly, but then you're sitting about till my food runs out. With the actual war (over the Falklands) in a ceasefire, Al-Jazeria and the internet starts to rail on about American imperialism. But if America wants to expend millions of dollars in equipment of Pablo, Raoul and Juan in their foxhole, go ahead!

[The New Sea Territory]

Welp, China is mistaken, thus Cuba can't have T-90's either.

The states that have T-90's are India which would never give them to you
Cyprus, which would never give them to you
Azerbajan and Turkmenistan which have so few it would be noticeable
India which wouldn't give them to you
Algeria, however there's no way in hell your boats wouldn't be spotted carrying T-90's
And finally Russia which you already know the answer to that

All of these states own T-90s as their main battle tank, not reserve so it would be very noticable if they were gone

I meant the Type-99's.

Well...................ok then.
We could say the T-90s are actually T-72s sold to me by China. They lied to me.

[Bojikami]

I meant the Type-99's.

Well...................ok then.
We could say the T-90s are actually T-72s sold to me by China. They lied to me.

China has type-99's.

[New Nassrau]

IRL if this same scenario occurred and military action had to be taken this would have ended alot sooner as victory for the US

[Mezique]

NS Name: Mezique
Faction Name: The United Mexican States
Faction Leader: Enrique Peña Nieto
Faction Capital (or base of power, if not nation): Mexico City
Military Strength: 343,905
Economic Strength* (Bankrupt/Developing/Semi-Developed/Developed): Developed ($1.231 trillion nominal GDP; 2012)
Total Population*: 113,910,608
Allies at start: United States, Canada, Spain, United Kingdom, France, Argentina, Brazil, Colombia, Japan and South Korea
RP Sample:
Projected Availability (1-10): 5 (I will have much more time after the 21^st)