LGBT Christians, yeah we exist.

[Zottistan]

Yes. Its rather 'not cool' to not accept yourself as you were made.

Why exactly is it any of your business?

He's entitled to his opinions. He's wrong, but still. You can have an opinion on something that's none of your business. Problems only arise when you act on them.

I'm noticing that your LGB is lacking in T.

Yes. Its rather 'not cool' to not accept yourself as you were made.

Why? What's wrong with a person looking on the outside how they feel on the inside?

[Tarsonis Survivors]

This post is nothing shy of outrageous. You guys are so accepting.

He is not as much as a Bigot aqs most christians are, ya know the rednecks, who try to convert and maybe even try to kill you if you don't belive in their god

Yeah cause that statement isn't bigoted at all.

[Dogapus]

do you think it's okay for the LGBT community to be part of Christianity?

I don't think it's okay for anybody to be a part of Christianity.

^This

[Olivaero]

So you figured out there are gay christians, want a cookie? Next topic.

Known it for a while, first time I've personally known one in the clergy, cheers for your sarcasm though, much appreciated.

[Reggae Magmia]

He is not as much as a Bigot aqs most christians are, ya know the rednecks, who try to convert and maybe even try to kill you if you don't belive in their god

Bigotry at its finest...

[Tsuntion]

I'm noticing that your LGB is lacking in T.

Yes. Its rather 'not cool' to not accept yourself as you were made.

Fingernails were made to grow. Therefore nobody should ever cut their fingernails.

[Vazdania]

Yes. Its rather 'not cool' to not accept yourself as you were made.

Tsk tsk, Vazzy, they were made correctly -- In their minds. They just need to find a way to make the sock fit the foot.

Like how people born in Iran can still become Christian if they feel like its a better fit.

I finally got a nickname from someone other than my region mates YAY!

They were made with boy parts or girl parts, (And sometimes in between) but wanting to change THAT isn't really accepting yourself for who you were born and made as. Yes Yes the whole 'Im a woman in a mans body' argument but you were born with the parts you were born with.

[Chinamerica]

This is good. Very good. I'm fucking sick and tired of the athiest assholes who try to make ALL Christians look like fundamentalist, homophobic, racist, extremist, stupid, archaic sexists. Well I got news for you bigots out there: MOST CHRISTIANS ARE NORMAL, DECENT PEOPLE WHO WOULDN'T HARM ANYONE AND ARE JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE EXCEPT THEY BELIEVE IN THE TEACHINGS OF JESUS! Pick up a fucking history book and grow a brain!

End of rant.

[The French Kingdom]

I'm a gay Christian. And I've written alot on it.

I've found no verse that, in context, actually mentions anything about homosexuality or loving, monogamous same-sex relationships. Therefore, I think it is a heresy to say that the Bible does as there's no conclusive exegetical evidence to support such a harmful and unfounded prejudice.

[La Gronge]

It's actually extraordinarily clear in scripture that Jesus is very much against homosexuality. Therefore being gay would have to be the opposite of being a Christian (disciple of Jesus), ns the same way that being adulterous or being hateful are the opposite of being a Christian. This is not to say that there are not genuine Christians who struggle with homosexuality in the same way that all Christians struggle with sin, because that's just a part of life. But for any church to officially condone homosexuality would be equally heretical as if it were to condone adultery, and not being a disciple of Christ just doesn't have any place in Christianity (duh). If you disagree with the idea of homosexuality being wrong, ok, but don't pretend like that's a Christian concept, cuz it's absolutely antithetical to Christianity.

[Lesbia]

This post is nothing shy of outrageous. You guys are so accepting.

He is not as much as a Bigot aqs most christians are, ya know the rednecks, who try to convert and maybe even try to kill you if you don't belive in their god

I have yet to run into those on "here," seeing as 80% of NSG is liberal on all grounds, many of whom are atheists and are quite hateful.

[Distributist Chestertonia]

The smartest Catholic of the year in regards to gay rights.

Anglican orders haven't been valid since the 1500s or so, so we don't recognise any of your clergy as valid, female or not.
That said, even if they were valid, somehow it just doesn't jive with St. Paul's views on homosexuality. He clearly condemned the acts of sodomy, pederasty, sapphism*, along with fornication, adultery, and incest, among other things.

That said, homosexuality was highly uncommon - and it was uncommon sense, also - in his time. Our times are fraught with a distinct lack of common sense and emotionalism over the use of reason. Our world is very tangled, confused, scared, and hurt - I don't doubt due to a large amount of misinformation wrought by the media and mass media (the press, and the Internet). We, as a culture, don't know what's truth anymore, because so many people tell us this or that is truth, and so many people have abused us, whether as individuals, or as a part of some group.

There needs to be emotional healing between people before they will accept the truth - that God exists, that Christ died and rose again, and that His Church has lasted for 2000 years, waiting to embrace anyone who enters and lead them to Heaven. Whether this is true or not, people will not listen to the truth if it comes from someone they see as someone who hates them.

I hate to say it, but while we absolutely cannot accept gay "marriage" or sodomy as practises appropriate to a wholesome Christian life - as they simply, in fact, are not - the Catholic Church does need to expand its PR department and reach out to our LGBT brothers and sisters in charity and warmth.

*Or, as it's commonly called, "lesbianism" - those poor people of Lesbos, Greece.

[Vazdania]

Why exactly is it any of your business?

He's entitled to his opinions. He's wrong, but still. You can have an opinion on something that's none of your business. Problems only arise when you act on them.

Yes. Its rather 'not cool' to not accept yourself as you were made.

Why? What's wrong with a person looking on the outside how they feel on the inside?

1.I guess you can just tell me I'm wrong xD

2.Because it just perpetuates the 'flawed human complex' created by the media. YOU WERE MADE THE WAY YOU ARE, AND YOU SHOULDN'T HAVE TO CHANGE THAT.

[Tarsonis Survivors]

I don't subscribe to the whole lady Gaga Born this way idea, and then trying to slap God's seal of approval. The bible teaches that we were born into sin. Born impure. Only through Christ are we made pure, and called to repent. It's our purpose as humans to try and better ourselves.

[Olivaero]

This post is nothing shy of outrageous. You guys are so accepting.

He is not as much as a Bigot aqs most christians are, ya know the rednecks, who try to convert and maybe even try to kill you if you don't belive in their god

"most Christians"... have you ever even left the USA?

[Akadia North]

This is so surprising!

[Vazdania]

It's actually extraordinarily clear in scripture that Jesus is very much against homosexuality. Therefore being gay would have to be the opposite of being a Christian (disciple of Jesus), ns the same way that being adulterous or being hateful are the opposite of being a Christian. This is not to say that there are not genuine Christians who struggle with homosexuality in the same way that all Christians struggle with sin, because that's just a part of life. But for any church to officially condone homosexuality would be equally heretical as if it were to condone adultery, and not being a disciple of Christ just doesn't have any place in Christianity (duh). If you disagree with the idea of homosexuality being wrong, ok, but don't pretend like that's a Christian concept, cuz it's absolutely antithetical to Christianity.

BIBLICAL QUOTE SUPPORTING THAT???

[Reggae Magmia]

It's actually extraordinarily clear in scripture that Jesus is very much against homosexuality.

Chapter and verse please, where Jesus ever even made a comment on Homosexuality.

Good luck.

[NationState]

Yeah, you exist, and since there are these little passages called "Leviticus 18:22" and "Romans 1:26-27", I wonder how you make it fit with being both Christian and LGBT(QI).

[Tarsonis Survivors]

The smartest Catholic of the year in regards to gay rights.

Anglican orders haven't been valid since the 1500s or so, so we don't recognise any of your clergy as valid, female or not.
That said, even if they were valid, somehow it just doesn't jive with St. Paul's views on homosexuality. He clearly condemned the acts of sodomy, pederasty, sapphism*, along with fornication, adultery, and incest, among other things.

That said, homosexuality was highly uncommon - and it was uncommon sense, also - in his time. Our times are fraught with a distinct lack of common sense and emotionalism over the use of reason. Our world is very tangled, confused, scared, and hurt - I don't doubt due to a large amount of misinformation wrought by the media and mass media (the press, and the Internet). We, as a culture, don't know what's truth anymore, because so many people tell us this or that is truth, and so many people have abused us, whether as individuals, or as a part of some group.

There needs to be emotional healing between people before they will accept the truth - that God exists, that Christ died and rose again, and that His Church has lasted for 2000 years, waiting to embrace anyone who enters and lead them to Heaven. Whether this is true or not, people will not listen to the truth if it comes from someone they see as someone who hates them.

I hate to say it, but while we absolutely cannot accept gay "marriage" or sodomy as practises appropriate to a wholesome Christian life - as they simply, in fact, are not - the Catholic Church does need to expand its PR department and reach out to our LGBT brothers and sisters in charity and warmth.

*Or, as it's commonly called, "lesbianism" - those poor people of Lesbos, Greece.

Your should email the Pope. Or I think he's on twitter now.

[Ceannairceach]

Tsk tsk, Vazzy, they were made correctly -- In their minds. They just need to find a way to make the sock fit the foot.

Like how people born in Iran can still become Christian if they feel like its a better fit.

I finally got a nickname from someone other than my region mates YAY!

They were made with boy parts or girl parts, (And sometimes in between) but wanting to change THAT isn't really accepting yourself for who you were born and made as. Yes Yes the whole 'Im a woman in a mans body' argument but you were born with the parts you were born with.

They were born as women who are meant to become men, or vice versa. If changing the parts makes them more like themselves, who are we to act against them? Besides, didn't God make all people in his image? Thus, are they really changing anything? I mean, they still look like people.

[Vazdania]

I don't subscribe to the whole lady Gaga Born this way idea, and then trying to slap God's seal of approval. The bible teaches that we were born into sin. Born impure. Only through Christ are we made pure, and called to repent. It's our purpose as humans to try and better ourselves.

The Bible most certainly does not teach us that we were born into sin. That is a denominational creation.

[Reggae Magmia]

He is not as much as a Bigot aqs most christians are, ya know the rednecks, who try to convert and maybe even try to kill you if you don't belive in their god

"most Christians"... have you ever even left the USA?

You don't even have to leave the US to experience how stupid and wrong his statement is...

[Tsuntion]

It's actually extraordinarily clear in scripture that Jesus is very much against homosexuality.

Book, chapter, verse: Where does Jesus speak against or even about homosexuality or homosexual behaviour?

If you disagree with the idea of homosexuality being wrong, ok, but don't pretend like that's a Christian concept, cuz it's absolutely antithetical to Christianity.

I believe encouraging, validating, and, should you wish to, engaging in loving and commited relationships is a very Christian concept. Gender does not come into it.

[Vazdania]

Yeah, you exist, and since there are these little passages called "Leviticus 18:22" and "Romans 1:26-27", I wonder how you make it fit with being both Christian and LGBT(QI).

Leviticus only applies to Levites...