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by Niur » Thu Dec 24, 2009 9:50 pm
by The Great Lord Tiger » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:04 pm
Niur wrote:What the hell do you think a petition is going to do?
Besides, the problem is not thee lack of grammar skills or realistic estimates, it is the lack of an actually interesting RP. For example, I entered the Turgov Rp when I was still a Newbie of a couple million, without reading the stickies, nuked the entire place, and guess what? Did anyone call me out on what I did? No, because it made the Rp quite a bit more interesting, and the thread, ripe with goddmodding and oneliners, was one of the best RP's I had ever been a part of.
Nowadays I am met with three types of RP's: The ones with giant blocks of boring text in letter form only, which are not as much RP's as they are a various declarations of war ; The ones made by players about my age or a little bit older, tht veterans of the new forum, and these consist of large chunks of boring text, about generic wars and such; and finally the ones populated almost entirely by newbies, which aree less generic warfare, and have the possibilty to be intresting, but have no older RPers to actually turn it into an RP, or if they do theese older ones tend to spend the whole time with ooc staements stating what is wrong with the newbies RPing,and doing little RPing themselves.
But when the third and the second types of RPing is combined, You get a story that is both intresting and well written. Yet threads like this only seperate the old and the new even further, dooming II to three stupid and terribly boring types of RP.
by Avenio » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:05 pm
Niur wrote:What the hell do you think a petition is going to do?
Besides, the problem is not the lack of grammar skills or realistic estimates, it is the lack of an actually interesting RP. For example, I entered the Turgov Rp when I was still a Newbie of a couple million, without reading the stickies, nuked the entire place, and guess what? Did anyone call me out on what I did? No, because it made the Rp quite a bit more interesting, and the thread, ripe with godmodding and one-liners, was one of the best RP's I had ever been a part of.
Nowadays I am met with three types of RP's: The ones with giant blocks of boring text in letter form only, which are not as much RP's as they are a various declarations of war ; The ones made by players about my age or a little bit older, tht veterans of the new forum, and these consist of large chunks of boring text, about generic wars and such; and finally the ones populated almost entirely by newbies, which aree less generic warfare, and have the possibility to be interesting, but have no older RPers to actually turn it into an RP, or if they do these older ones tend to spend the whole time with ooc statements stating what is wrong with the newbies RPing,and doing little RPing themselves.
But when the third and the second types of RPing is combined, You get a story that is both interesting and well written. Yet threads like this only seperate the old and the new even further, dooming II to three stupid and terribly boring types of RP.
by OMGeverynameistaken » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:09 pm
by The Regency of Stars » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:18 pm
by Niur » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:19 pm
Avenio wrote:Niur wrote:What the hell do you think a petition is going to do?
Besides, the problem is not the lack of grammar skills or realistic estimates, it is the lack of an actually interesting RP. For example, I entered the Turgov Rp when I was still a Newbie of a couple million, without reading the stickies, nuked the entire place, and guess what? Did anyone call me out on what I did? No, because it made the Rp quite a bit more interesting, and the thread, ripe with godmodding and one-liners, was one of the best RP's I had ever been a part of.
Nowadays I am met with three types of RP's: The ones with giant blocks of boring text in letter form only, which are not as much RP's as they are a various declarations of war ; The ones made by players about my age or a little bit older, tht veterans of the new forum, and these consist of large chunks of boring text, about generic wars and such; and finally the ones populated almost entirely by newbies, which aree less generic warfare, and have the possibility to be interesting, but have no older RPers to actually turn it into an RP, or if they do these older ones tend to spend the whole time with ooc statements stating what is wrong with the newbies RPing,and doing little RPing themselves.
But when the third and the second types of RPing is combined, You get a story that is both interesting and well written. Yet threads like this only seperate the old and the new even further, dooming II to three stupid and terribly boring types of RP.
Corrected for spelling and grammatical errors.
The 'blocks of text' you're reading aren't just boring RPs, if you took the time to read them you would know that. Taking the time to flesh out the proper politics of one's nation, the personalities of one's characters and the description of the settings are what makes an RP interesting to read.
The problem with II lies not with the older players specifically, as you seem to think, but with the population as a whole.
by Leistung » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:23 pm
The Great Lord Tiger wrote:Dhammonia wrote::-)
It's just a game and let's be quite clear: NS is totally lacking the basis for roleplay.
I like roleplay in general but i never quite understood why people try to do it with NS accs.
Heck, the missing "core information" as one needs it in games like D&D isn't available at all here, making a "we have 2 million supersoldiers, ultra-mega trained, equal in skill and efficency to 50million soldiers of your country. we know because our spies got the information about your army." very easy.
Just accept NS as some trollcave instead of rp-place and you'll be fine :-)
If you don't want to, i strongly suggest starting to work on some rulebook to prevent "annoying" things just like that.
Because, you know, we don't have any sort of rules or regulations already...
The problem is formalizing things too much. When you do that, then everyone is more concerned about making sure they have exactly the number of soldiers or tanks that they're 'allowed' to have, and the narrative element departs.
by The Great Lord Tiger » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:25 pm
Leistung wrote:The Great Lord Tiger wrote:Dhammonia wrote::-)
It's just a game and let's be quite clear: NS is totally lacking the basis for roleplay.
I like roleplay in general but i never quite understood why people try to do it with NS accs.
Heck, the missing "core information" as one needs it in games like D&D isn't available at all here, making a "we have 2 million supersoldiers, ultra-mega trained, equal in skill and efficency to 50million soldiers of your country. we know because our spies got the information about your army." very easy.
Just accept NS as some trollcave instead of rp-place and you'll be fine :-)
If you don't want to, i strongly suggest starting to work on some rulebook to prevent "annoying" things just like that.
Because, you know, we don't have any sort of rules or regulations already...
The problem is formalizing things too much. When you do that, then everyone is more concerned about making sure they have exactly the number of soldiers or tanks that they're 'allowed' to have, and the narrative element departs.
Those are neither rules nor regulations.
Either way, it would appear clear that the petition has no further use as moderation has made it quite clear this is not a concern of theirs. If we could all allow this to die, I'd be much obliged.
by Leistung » Thu Dec 24, 2009 10:29 pm
by Reploid Productions » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:41 am
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by Bavin » Fri Dec 25, 2009 4:56 am
Gc1mak wrote:I feel lucky to be dragged out of the noob stream, I almost became a noob, but luckily the Auctland thread died, and then Amazonian Beast's thread forced me to write a paragraph instead of the one-liner I preferred at that time. Thank you
by Gc1mak » Fri Dec 25, 2009 6:30 am
by Mirnect » Fri Dec 25, 2009 7:05 am
by Malikov » Fri Dec 25, 2009 8:46 am
Reploid Productions wrote:One thing that I think would greatly help not just the quality of posts but also the overall atmosphere would be more people reporting to moderation when we get these one-liner borderline spam RPs... and also reporting players that make a habit of dogpiling on any new player or 'inferior' quality RP. We all have to start somewhere, and a newbie's thread that gets flooded with posts of little more than " " aren't going to help anybody.
Remember guys, we can't be everywhere, and the players are our eyes and ears for this stuff. If you see an RP that is a one-liner and likely spam, post a report in Moderation instead of spamming the thread to the top of the front page!
"Friendship is two pals munching on a well cooked face together."Tiurabo wrote:Your forces are weak because you are capable of reigning them in.
by Ozymos » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:08 am
Malikov wrote:Reploid Productions wrote:[...]Remember guys, we can't be everywhere, and the players are our eyes and ears for this stuff. If you see an RP that is a one-liner and likely spam, post a report in Moderation instead of spamming the thread to the top of the front page!
It's unfortunate, but many people in II seem to be Mod-aphobic. THey either dislike, or are afraid of the Mods[...]
by Terlaka » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:09 am
Malikov wrote:It's unfortunate, but many people in II seem to be Mod-aphobic. THey either dislike, or are afraid of the Mods. They are un-willing to get them, or to proud to get them. There's always a reason, and it's never very good, but it seems like the majority of players in II attempt to "self-police", which without a Mods BAN, or DEAT-ation powers, is impossible.
by Telvira » Fri Dec 25, 2009 9:56 am
by Telvira » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:32 pm
by Telvira » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:42 pm
by Chronosia » Fri Dec 25, 2009 12:45 pm
by No endorse » Fri Dec 25, 2009 1:53 pm
Reploid Productions wrote:One thing that I think would greatly help not just the quality of posts but also the overall atmosphere would be more people reporting to moderation when we get these one-liner borderline spam RPs... and also reporting players that make a habit of dogpiling on any new player or 'inferior' quality RP. We all have to start somewhere, and a newbie's thread that gets flooded with posts of little more than " " aren't going to help anybody.
Remember guys, we can't be everywhere, and the players are our eyes and ears for this stuff. If you see an RP that is a one-liner and likely spam, post a report in Moderation instead of spamming the thread to the top of the front page!
OMGeverynameistaken wrote:We had better trolls back in the day. None of this "I DEKLARZ WUR" stuff. Our trolls could troll you with a fifteen page (in MSword) document. And you couldn't fault their spelling because in-browser spellcheck didn't exist back then.
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