Paper Flowers wrote:Firstaria wrote:I think I will support this condemnation. Puppet states are an instrument that should be available in the current meta-game setting, but just filling a region with puppets to score a number is stupid and damages the server speed.
A puppet should have a reason to exist, not being a number and period, you are also killing names that could be used in future by other users. So the practice must be condemned or stopped at least.
Maybe I've missed it, but where has anyone involved in True North said that they're doing it "to score a number"? The only people I've seen that have tagged it as that are the ones calling for a condemnation.
To be fair, among the two main contributors, including me, there was definitely the goal of being the largest region in the world. However, I for one enjoy creating nations in order to mess with categories, choosing government styles, and seeing how the introduction questions influence your nation initially. I like the process of creating a nation. To me, it's not all about the number or title of being best in the world at all. I enjoy making puppets.
In regards to scripting- The founder of the region actually logs in to every nation, I don't know if he uses a script. Sorry. The assertion that we use scripts to create nations is false, though. As I said before, I often enjoy manipulating national categories.
And in regards to time- As I said before, puppet making is a part of NS that appeals to me. But I get that is weird. I don't expect anyone else to understand, but to me, this is a fun part of the game. To me, people who stay up past midnight to raid and defend is crazy, but I'm not going to criticize anyone for participating in it.
Now, I think we're at about 5,100 nations. That's a little high to me. I've been less and less able to found nations with cool or interesting names, and instead, I've been pushing on to fill a quota. It's become less fun, so I've kind of sat back and really haven't been that active lately. That's where I guess I've kind of begun to care less and less about being #1. Once it's become all about that, it does seem like a waste of time and pointless. I guess there's a perception that this is all about the goal, but for me, it was very much about the fun of it. I guess it's weird, but it's true.
I can't speak for True and great north's motivations, though.