End of the liberal democrats.

[Olivaero]

I don't understand why people bother bringing up the left wing at all, since as a political force it is dead as a doornail. Every mainstream everything is right wing. Our society is right wing, hence why a leftist can't really be supportive of continuing this social arrangement.

The United States of America, Brazil, France, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Slovakia, Norway and Denmark all have democratic left-wing leaders.

According NEaTM's perspective non of those are even remotely left wing... Even I would take exception to Obama...

[Forsakia]

Britain, why didn't you switch to proportional representation yet?

N'other broken promise this time broken on separate occasions by both Labour and the Lib Dems! Isn't that impressive?!

Eh? When did the Lib Dems ever have a the power to keep that promise?

[Geadland]

We did try.

Pity we can't just have STV or something and be done with it.

That's even a more ridicilious voting system IMO, PR is way less complicated.

AV isn't much different from FPTP. It would have only given the Lib Dems an extra 20 seats. Nick Clegg was right, it was a "miserable little compromise". Like him, I still supported AV though because it was better than what we've got - it means you can express preference for a minor party and still influence whether your constituency gets a Labour or Conservative MP. I'm convinced that the rejection of AV set back electoral reform at least 10 years.

[Snowhelm]

Britain, why didn't you switch to proportional representation yet?

N'other broken promise this time broken on separate occasions by both Labour and the Lib Dems! Isn't that impressive?!

Well, if it is stopped by the majority; no.

Welcome to 'democracy'.

[Laerod]

I don't understand why people bother bringing up the left wing at all, since as a political force it is dead as a doornail. Every mainstream everything is right wing. Our society is right wing, hence why a leftist can't really be supportive of continuing this social arrangement.

The United States of America, Brazil, France, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Slovakia, Norway and Denmark all have democratic left-wing leaders.

Yeah, no. Center Right. Compare Obama to European conservatives and you'll see he's not much different from them.

[New England and The Maritimes]

The United States of America, Brazil, France, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Slovakia, Norway and Denmark all have democratic left-wing leaders.

According NEaTM's perspective non of those are even remotely left wing... Even I would take exception to Obama...

Social Democrats are rooted in a right wing point of view. Not saying they're evil, they're just right wing. Not reactionary, certainly, but not revolutionary either.

Knowing the political situation in Australia, I really do laugh at the idea that they are "left wing."

[Olivaero]

N'other broken promise this time broken on separate occasions by both Labour and the Lib Dems! Isn't that impressive?!

Eh? When did the Lib Dems ever have a the power to keep that promise?

Okay maybe I was being a tad vindictive but the referendum they got wasn't actually even on a PR system and considering they had the Tories over a barrel in the coalition talks you'd think they'd have specified actual PR...

[Nadkor]

True, but we couldn't even manage that.

It was a spectacularly bad campaign. Tbh I was more annoyed that the Lords reform went down the tubes.

Well, I'm completely against the idea of an elected second chamber, so I was cool with that. Kind of. It urgently needs reform, but not in the way that was being pushed.

As for AV - the primary objection from the Tories seemed to be "but only foreigners in Papua New Guinea uses it and who's ever heard of them?!" combined with "oh, but the money!".

Xenophobia + ignorance + cutting spending = great success.

This can be applied to almost any election or referendum.

[Forsakia]

Eh? When did the Lib Dems ever have a the power to keep that promise?

Okay maybe I was being a tad vindictive but the referendum they got wasn't actually even on a PR system and considering they had the Tories over a barrel in the coalition talks you'd think they'd have specified actual PR...

We didn't exactly have them over a barrel. The Lib Dems pushed for PR, the Tories drew the line at an AV referendum .

[Snowhelm]

I don't understand why people bother bringing up the left wing at all, since as a political force it is dead as a doornail. Every mainstream everything is right wing. Our society is right wing, hence why a leftist can't really be supportive of continuing this social arrangement.

The United States of America, Brazil, France, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Slovakia, Norway and Denmark all have democratic left-wing leaders.

US merely has a center right president.

Socialism, or left wing in general, is not represented in both Democratic and GOP parties.

[Olivaero]

N'other broken promise this time broken on separate occasions by both Labour and the Lib Dems! Isn't that impressive?!

Well, if it is stopped by the majority; no.

Welcome to 'democracy'.

Labour had a majority in 1997. A massive majority in fact. And the referendum that was held was not on a electoral system that was arguably as flawed as FPTP.

[Olivaero]

Okay maybe I was being a tad vindictive but the referendum they got wasn't actually even on a PR system and considering they had the Tories over a barrel in the coalition talks you'd think they'd have specified actual PR...

We didn't exactly have them over a barrel. The Lib Dems pushed for PR, the Tories drew the line at an AV referendum .

Then Let them try and make a minority government if you can't keep to your principles...

[Snowhelm]

Well, if it is stopped by the majority; no.

Welcome to 'democracy'.

Labour had a majority in 1997. A massive majority in fact. And the referendum that was held was not on a electoral system that was arguably as flawed as FTTP.

Fiber to the Premises?

[Chinamerica]

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

[Forsakia]

We didn't exactly have them over a barrel. The Lib Dems pushed for PR, the Tories drew the line at an AV referendum .

Then Let them try and make a minority government if you can't keep to your principles...

They'd have held another GE inside 6 months and probably won a majority.

We only had so much bargaining power, we got some of what we wanted, not all. And we're not a single issue party.

[Camelza]

The United States of America, Brazil, France, Australia, Austria, Belgium, Slovakia, Norway and Denmark all have democratic left-wing leaders.

Yeah, no. Center Right. Compare Obama to European conservatives and you'll see he's not much different from them.

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

Those cryptofascists? UKIP's the BNP of the rich.

[Wolfmanne]

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

Well, I don't take an opinion on Europe but it's good to have UKIP, if the Conservatives would agree to work with them in the next election. Shame that went to shits.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politic ... treet.html

[Zaras]

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

Why do you hate the UK so much?

[Napkiraly]

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

No.

[Chinamerica]

I'm very glad to see UKIP on the rise. For once, we can have a true right wing here in the UK.

Why do you hate the UK so much?

What the hell are you talking about? I'm half-English :L

[Chinamerica]

Why do you hate the UK so much?

What the hell are you talking about? I'm half-English :L

Not to mention that I live here.

[Snowhelm]

Why do you hate the UK so much?

What the hell are you talking about? I'm half-English :L

He obviously is referring to the fact that he dislikes that party.

[Olivaero]

Labour had a majority in 1997. A massive majority in fact. And the referendum that was held was not on a electoral system that was arguably as flawed as FTTP.

Fiber to the Premises?

Edited....

[Tyrants]

I'll be voting Respect next election. I want my Prime Minister to have once been a cat, just because the PMQ insults would be funny.

[Nadkor]

Why do you hate the UK so much?

What the hell are you talking about? I'm half-English :L

Well if you support UKIP then you must pretty much okay with destroying the UK's economy. Why do you hate the UK so much?