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The United States should

Significantly increase the size of their military
27
11%
Slightly increase the size of their military
22
9%
Keep their military size as it already is
56
22%
Slightly reduce the size of their military
63
25%
Significantly reduce the size of their military
69
28%
Abolish their military
12
5%
 
Total votes : 249

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Totalise
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Postby Totalise » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Renegade Island wrote:Close down all foreign US military bases, cease interfering/overthrowing foreign governments, stop starting wars of aggression.

Basically, stop being a world wide imperialist regime and put the US military back where it belongs. In the US.

and is imperialism wrong?

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Postby Nude East Ireland » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
Mkuki wrote:
It's kept the Swiss out of trouble.

Yes, but they have mountains and cheese and clocks.

The Rockies, Wisconsin, GE.

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Postby Flaxxony-Setram » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:33 pm

Pragia wrote:I'm for drastically reducing size of ground forces, and maintaining the other branches. Also, increase R&D so we can keep quality edge so we don't have to increase quantity. I think we need to stand by allies and not pick as many fights.


:clap:

Instead of waging expensive wars, invest in a domestic nuclear defense shield or AntiBallistic missile system. And for terrorism, I have a feeling that if we leave these countries alone, the problems will stop
Base 12, Esperanto, 13 month years, you get the drift, All that weird stuff. 58 million total inhabitants. The national area is the northern half of South America, and we are very xenophobic. Georgism since 1871.

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Postby Grand Britannia » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:34 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:I say keep it as is.


EDIT: OK, who voted to abolish it.
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Postby Hydronium » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:34 pm

The US shouldn't touch any of their military, as that US is enemies with almost half of all countries, some of which are nuclear equipped. I honestly don't want to get nuked anytime soon!!!!!!!

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Postby Flaxxony-Setram » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:34 pm

Totalise wrote:
Renegade Island wrote:Close down all foreign US military bases, cease interfering/overthrowing foreign governments, stop starting wars of aggression.

Basically, stop being a world wide imperialist regime and put the US military back where it belongs. In the US.

and is imperialism wrong?


It eventually destroys the home nation so, yes
Base 12, Esperanto, 13 month years, you get the drift, All that weird stuff. 58 million total inhabitants. The national area is the northern half of South America, and we are very xenophobic. Georgism since 1871.

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St James
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Postby St James » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:35 pm

Samuraikoku wrote:I say keep it as is.


This is that answer to all. :)

In other words, I agree.
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Postby Avarnica » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:36 pm

The United States has the most powerful military force in world history.

Why change that?

As long as we play police, the smart villians of the world stay in line, and don't cause trouble.

SMART, being the word there.

So don't confuse smart with people like Hitler or Gaddafi.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:36 pm

Flaxxony-Setram wrote:
Pragia wrote:I'm for drastically reducing size of ground forces, and maintaining the other branches. Also, increase R&D so we can keep quality edge so we don't have to increase quantity. I think we need to stand by allies and not pick as many fights.


:clap:

Instead of waging expensive wars, invest in a domestic nuclear defense shield or AntiBallistic missile system. And for terrorism, I have a feeling that if we leave these countries alone, the problems will stop

Yup, In the first place it is America's fault why Iranian hostage crisis began. I mean all what Al qaeda wants is removal of US bases on their "holy land"



"This week was the anniversary of 9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror, which we totally won. But government will never admit that, because the greedy money machine known as the military-industrial complex sniffed out a source of cash like a pig on a truffle, and they will never let it go. Homeland security is a bloated monstrosity that eats our wealth and lives beyond our reproach, and we pay them $75 billion dollars a year to do it, and we will from now until forever. Because "free" is only the first part of freedom. The other part is "dumb". -Bill Maher
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Postby Flaxxony-Setram » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:36 pm

Hydronium wrote:The US shouldn't touch any of their military, as that US is enemies with almost half of all countries, some of which are nuclear equipped. I honestly don't want to get nuked anytime soon!!!!!!!


Irrational fear. We managed to squeak out of the Cold War just fine.

And how does bombing afghan civilians pertain to nuclear protection
Base 12, Esperanto, 13 month years, you get the drift, All that weird stuff. 58 million total inhabitants. The national area is the northern half of South America, and we are very xenophobic. Georgism since 1871.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:36 pm

Avarnica wrote:The United States has the most powerful military force in world history.

Why change that?

As long as we play police, the smart villians of the world stay in line, and don't cause trouble.

SMART, being the word there.

So don't confuse smart with people like Hitler or Gaddafi.

Problem is, they don't make things better, they make it worse
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Postby Flaxxony-Setram » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:37 pm

Avarnica wrote:The United States has the most powerful military force in world history.

Why change that?

As long as we play police, the smart villians of the world stay in line, and don't cause trouble.

SMART, being the word there.

So don't confuse smart with people like Hitler or Gaddafi.


And go bankrupt?
Base 12, Esperanto, 13 month years, you get the drift, All that weird stuff. 58 million total inhabitants. The national area is the northern half of South America, and we are very xenophobic. Georgism since 1871.

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Postby Toradora » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:38 pm

And for terrorism, I have a feeling that if we leave these countries alone, the problems will stop


Uh, this implies we'll let them push the Israelis into the sea. F that noise.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:38 pm

I really wish Obama to appoint Ron Paul as military advisor



This week was the anniversary of 9/11 and the beginning of the War on Terror, which we totally won. But government will never admit that, because the greedy money machine known as the military-industrial complex sniffed out a source of cash like a pig on a truffle, and they will never let it go. Homeland security is a bloated monstrosity that eats our wealth and lives beyond our reproach, and we pay them $75 billion dollars a year to do it, and we will from now until forever. Because "free" is only the first part of freedom. The other part is "dumb".
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:39 pm

Toradora wrote:
And for terrorism, I have a feeling that if we leave these countries alone, the problems will stop


Uh, this implies we'll let them push the Israelis into the sea. F that noise.

Israel can do it alone, they have a strong military
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Postby Arrentine » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:39 pm

Be like us up in Canada. Don't be large and power hungry, start being friendly with other nations, no more need for a large military!

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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:39 pm

Fuck it. We should turn Lichtenstein, Haiti, and Nepal into nuclear powers.


We then prank call Pakistan pretending to be India, and tell them we begin bombing in 5 minutes.



Then we watch what happens.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:40 pm

Arrentine wrote:Be like us up in Canada. Don't be large and power hungry, start being friendly with other nations, no more need for a large military!

Yes, I live here too, where they don't spend money on military and spend it on social services
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Postby Flaxxony-Setram » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:40 pm

Toradora wrote:
And for terrorism, I have a feeling that if we leave these countries alone, the problems will stop


Uh, this implies we'll let them push the Israelis into the sea. F that noise.


Hahahahaha your actually going to try and tell me that anyone poses a legit threat to Israel?

Yeah, for sure. Dude, Israel has the second most powerful Air Force in the world. They'll be fine
Base 12, Esperanto, 13 month years, you get the drift, All that weird stuff. 58 million total inhabitants. The national area is the northern half of South America, and we are very xenophobic. Georgism since 1871.

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Postby Czechanada » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:40 pm

Arrentine wrote:Be like us up in Canada. Don't be large and power hungry, start being friendly with other nations, no more need for a large military!


We Canadians have a large abundance of natural resources and a small population. We don't need to be imperialist.
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Postby Jinos » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:41 pm

The US should begin a gradual draw down of its military, with the goal of cutting the US military budget by half within 10 or 15 years. Additionally, the US military should begin reducing its overseas presence, especially cutting back for the Army.
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Postby Totalise » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Flaxxony-Setram wrote:
Totalise wrote:and is imperialism wrong?


It eventually destroys the home nation so, yes

imperialism has never destroyed a nation (world war one had nothing to do with imperialism). if anything imperialism makes a nation stronger.

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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Flaxxony-Setram wrote:
Toradora wrote:
Uh, this implies we'll let them push the Israelis into the sea. F that noise.


Hahahahaha your actually going to try and tell me that anyone poses a legit threat to Israel?

Yeah, for sure. Dude, Israel has the second most powerful Air Force in the world. They'll be fine

Besides, what did Israel offered for US?
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Postby Libertarian California » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Czechanada wrote:
Arrentine wrote:Be like us up in Canada. Don't be large and power hungry, start being friendly with other nations, no more need for a large military!


We Canadians have a large abundance of natural resources and a small population. We don't need to be imperialist.



Also because the American military does the job your military should do.
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Postby Nationalist Eminral Republic » Sun Nov 25, 2012 6:41 pm

Totalise wrote:
Flaxxony-Setram wrote:
It eventually destroys the home nation so, yes

imperialism has never destroyed a nation (world war one had nothing to do with imperialism). if anything imperialism makes a nation stronger.

You mean their empire?
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