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by The Dourian Embassy » Sun Oct 07, 2012 10:15 am
by Quelesh » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:26 pm
Arthuriana wrote:so long as distinctions are being drawn between different kinds of abuse, this body is failing in its duty to protect these children.
by Sanctaria » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:28 pm
Quelesh wrote:The Dourian Embassy wrote:
Wait, so you honestly believe that spanking is child abuse?
Aside from certain very limited circumstances, mostly involving the defense of self or others, the use of force against anyone, of any age, is abusive. Hitting a child is no more - and, for that matter, no less - justified than hitting an adult under the same circumstances. Therefore, children should be protected by laws against battery to the same extent that adults are.
Alexandria Yadoru
Quelesian WA ambassador
by Rattlestan » Sun Oct 07, 2012 1:35 pm
The Dourian Embassy wrote:Rattlestan wrote:Sadly, there don't appear any simple solutions to this quandary and we offer apologies if it appears we are being pedantic regarding a wholly worthwhile piece of legislation, but as a nation dedicated to the right of artistic expression, this is difficult for us. Nobody wants to see wanton images of child abuse passed off as art, but who is making the judgment call when the black and white become grey areas?
Your government actually. It's difficult to broadly legislate across a multitude of cultural norms, but this is the best way we figured out to legislate on this.
by Eireann Fae » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:24 pm
by Sanctaria » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:32 pm
Eireann Fae wrote:Epiſkœ is clearly surprised at Dr. Ferguson's comment. "Ifœ'Ii wilʃinaʒü-lœanzœ?"
"I guess so..." Rowan catches a bemused look from the Emissary, and corrects herself, putting her Codex down for the moment to address the Assembly. "Sorry. Are we really so unique? Of course a woman slapping a man is considered battery. Our culture is not sexist like that, and it does come as quite a surprise that yours, Doctor, is. Even more surprising is your implication that most nations share your views. What a brutal place the world is, indeed..."
by Sciongrad » Sun Oct 07, 2012 7:38 pm
Eireann Fae wrote:Epiſkœ is clearly surprised at Dr. Ferguson's comment. "Ifœ'Ii wilʃinaʒü-lœanzœ?"
"I guess so..." Rowan catches a bemused look from the Emissary, and corrects herself, putting her Codex down for the moment to address the Assembly. "Sorry. Are we really so unique? Of course a woman slapping a man is considered battery. Our culture is not sexist like that, and it does come as quite a surprise that yours, Doctor, is. Even more surprising is your implication that most nations share your views. What a brutal place the world is, indeed..."
by Atravinia » Mon Oct 08, 2012 12:48 am
by Shadowlandistan » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:01 am
by Philimbesi » Mon Oct 08, 2012 10:20 am
by Nova Prutenia » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:34 pm
by Louisistan » Mon Oct 08, 2012 2:50 pm
by Arthuriana » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:44 pm
Louisistan wrote:Deputy Ambassador Schulz is returning from a meeting with the Special Ambassador which - for convenience - took place in the strangers' bar
Why do you lie to your child in the first place?
by Sciongrad » Mon Oct 08, 2012 3:54 pm
Nova Prutenia wrote:"any deliberate act and/or behaviour which results in serious emotional and mental trauma in a child"
A person who reveals to a child that Santa isn't real should be arrested?
by Quelesh » Mon Oct 08, 2012 5:35 pm
Sciongrad wrote:Eireann Fae wrote:Epiſkœ is clearly surprised at Dr. Ferguson's comment. "Ifœ'Ii wilʃinaʒü-lœanzœ?"
"I guess so..." Rowan catches a bemused look from the Emissary, and corrects herself, putting her Codex down for the moment to address the Assembly. "Sorry. Are we really so unique? Of course a woman slapping a man is considered battery. Our culture is not sexist like that, and it does come as quite a surprise that yours, Doctor, is. Even more surprising is your implication that most nations share your views. What a brutal place the world is, indeed..."
Your Excellency, I don't think Dr. Ferguson was implying that all cultures are sexist. I think he was being rhetorical - most cultures don't find slapping one another to be on par with battery, just like spanking a child for misbehaving isn't necessarily battery either. Just like you wouldn't persecute a woman for hitting a man in an instance of infidelity, spanking a child for throwing a rock through the front window isn't really unjustifiable either.
by Katzharak » Mon Oct 08, 2012 6:15 pm
by Eritopia » Mon Oct 08, 2012 9:26 pm
by Dalsky-Petrovica » Tue Oct 09, 2012 12:48 am
by Louisistan » Tue Oct 09, 2012 1:24 am
Katzharak wrote:Be it that this resolution prevents the transport of children to nations that may not participate in the World Assembly simply on the account of the degree to which they protect children's rights, we reject this proposition. Let it be known that we support the general notion of this resolution. Let it also be known that some nations are on the road of development but require time and infrastructure before they may carry out the responsibilities of a WA member, as they do not enjoy the same legislative luxuries as member states are quick to dismiss. To deprive a child's ability to visit his or her family of another country is truly a tragedy we cannot bear to see.
We also believe that through constructive cooperation as opposed to mandated ostracizing we may bring the whole of the world to greater heights.
by Linux and the X » Tue Oct 09, 2012 10:14 am
by Sanctaria » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:14 am
Linux and the X wrote:We find that all works have artistic merit of some sort, even if that merit is only as a demonstration of what not to do. We have also chosen to ban any works without artistic merit, but have defined no punishment.
by Linux and the X » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:37 am
Sanctaria wrote:Linux and the X wrote:We find that all works have artistic merit of some sort, even if that merit is only as a demonstration of what not to do. We have also chosen to ban any works without artistic merit, but have defined no punishment.
I was under the impression your nation didn't even have children... how exactly does one depict something that doesn't exist?
by Linux and the X » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:40 am
by Quelesh » Tue Oct 09, 2012 6:20 pm
Eritopia wrote:We are very alarmed that this specifies that sexual contact must be "unwanted" or "nonconsensual". We believe it is a fundamental principle that under the age of majority, a child is not capable of giving consent to such acts. This puts the burden of proof on the victim to prove it was "nonconsensual".
Linux and the X wrote:We find that all works have artistic merit of some sort, even if that merit is only as a demonstration of what not to do. We have also chosen to ban any works without artistic merit, but have defined no punishment.
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