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[DRAFT] Modern-Day Minutemen?

Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Fri Oct 05, 2012 6:53 pm

Name: Modern-Day Minutemen?


Description: Recently, there have been alarming reports of citizens forming their own private militias in isolated regions of @@NAME@@.

Validity: For nations that have high civil rights and/or weaponization

Options:
[option]A man dressed in grimy overalls and boots lays aside his 12-gauge shotgun and sits in the chair opposite you, spitting a plug of tobacco across the room into your gold-embellished trashcan. Speaking in a long drawl, he says, "Well now, @@LEADER@@, I reckon you've got ter grant a man the right to defend himself an' his family. Folks like me are the ones who settled this here land anyway, ya know. We're jest tryin' ter defend against those immigrants, see. An' besides, me ma always told me that the Lord helps those that help themselves!"
[effect]farmers and mountain men train for battle in the town square
[stats]Civil rights go up, weaponization goes up, public safety decreases, Arms Manufacturing benefits

[option]"But this is preposterous!," wails your National Security Advisor, a motherly woman of around fifty. "If we allow our citizenry to form these groups, we'll be making a fatal error. Everyone knows that guns do nothing but maim and kill! I suggest that you outlaw all weapons in private hands immediately!" She bursts into tears.
[effect]private ownership of weapons is now illegal
[stats]Arms Manufacturing goes down, happiness increases?, crime decreases, economy decreases

[option]"That's not going far enough," exclaims @@NAME@&'s most respected chief of police, @@RANDOMNAME@@. "Crime rates are too high, and most murders are done with knives anyway. We must try and imprison anyone with a weapon of any sort." After a pause, he adds, "Actually, forget about the trials. . ."
[effect]anyone wielding so much as a pocketknife is summarily executed
[stats]Civil rights decrease, political freedoms decrease, economy decreases, public safety goes up, authoritarianism goes up

[option]"Of course, there is another choice." @@RANDOMNAME@@, @@NAME@@'s most feared general, leans in close and whispers, "We could simply conscript all these hillbillies into the national army. We're always in need of more cannon fodder- er, good soldiers, I mean. . ."
[effect]Militaristic civilians are being conscripted by the thousands
[stats]Military increases, civil rights decrease, public happiness decreases, average lifespan decreases
Last edited by Escalan Corps-Star Island on Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:23 pm, edited 3 times in total.

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Postby Ballotonia » Sat Oct 06, 2012 12:21 am

The title is very US-centric. "Second Amendment" refers to the US second amendment, but other countries will have different laws. Please do not refer to Real Life things directly, only in jest to poke fun (and even then best done by altering names and such). Keep in mind that this game is played world-wide.

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Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:04 am

Ballotonia wrote:The title is very US-centric. "Second Amendment" refers to the US second amendment, but other countries will have different laws. Please do not refer to Real Life things directly, only in jest to poke fun (and even then best done by altering names and such). Keep in mind that this game is played world-wide.

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I'll fix that. Thanks for the reminder.

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Postby Panageadom » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:24 pm

Ballotonia wrote:The title is very US-centric. "Second Amendment" refers to the US second amendment, but other countries will have different laws. Please do not refer to Real Life things directly, only in jest to poke fun (and even then best done by altering names and such). Keep in mind that this game is played world-wide.

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Is it? I'd get what a minuteman was, even without knowing the history.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:35 pm

Panageadom wrote:
Ballotonia wrote:The title is very US-centric. "Second Amendment" refers to the US second amendment, but other countries will have different laws. Please do not refer to Real Life things directly, only in jest to poke fun (and even then best done by altering names and such). Keep in mind that this game is played world-wide.

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Is it? I'd get what a minuteman was, even without knowing the history.

The current title is a revised one.
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Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:43 pm

Sanctaria wrote:
Panageadom wrote:
Is it? I'd get what a minuteman was, even without knowing the history.

The current title is a revised one.

It was originally called "Stretching the Second Amendment".

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Postby TurtleShroom » Sat Oct 06, 2012 2:50 pm

Escalan Corps-Star Island wrote:
Ballotonia wrote:The title is very US-centric. "Second Amendment" refers to the US second amendment, but other countries will have different laws. Please do not refer to Real Life things directly, only in jest to poke fun (and even then best done by altering names and such). Keep in mind that this game is played world-wide.

Ballotonia


I'll fix that. Thanks for the reminder.


Traditionally, things like "Catholic Church", "filibuster", "Parliament" and "Congress" have all appeared in Issues over the years. (The "Spriitual Advisor" issue is a major one, where you can appoint an actual Catholic Archbishop. The forced vaccinations item mentions the Jehovah Witnesses by name, and the Harry Potter series is real-world.)

I strongly disagree with the belief that RL items can't get references.


Also, this is a great issue. Maybe another option could be to enact conscription so the militias fight for the state?
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:04 pm

TurtleShroom wrote:
Escalan Corps-Star Island wrote:
I'll fix that. Thanks for the reminder.


Traditionally, things like "Catholic Church", "filibuster", "Parliament" and "Congress" have all appeared in Issues over the years. (The "Spriitual Advisor" issue is a major one, where you can appoint an actual Catholic Archbishop. The forced vaccinations item mentions the Jehovah Witnesses by name, and the Harry Potter series is real-world.)

I strongly disagree with the belief that RL items can't get references.


Also, this is a great issue. Maybe another option could be to enact conscription so the militias fight for the state?

The terms you mentioned can be applied globally.

"Second Amendment", in this instance, refers solely to the 2nd Amendment of the United States. The numbers of players from the States is substantive, yes, but don't forget that there are players from across the globe. I'm Irish; the 2nd Amendment in my country is much different.
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Postby TurtleShroom » Sat Oct 06, 2012 3:58 pm

Sanctaria wrote:"Second Amendment", in this instance, refers solely to the 2nd Amendment of the United States. The numbers of players from the States is substantive, yes, but don't forget that there are players from across the globe. I'm Irish; the 2nd Amendment in my country is much different.


Oooooohh, I didn't notice them nention "their Second Amendment Rights". I apologize for my screw-up. It should be changed to "right to keep and bare arms" instead. That's a more universal term. :)
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Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Sat Oct 06, 2012 5:24 pm

Thanks. I did add the fourth option, by the way.

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Postby TurtleShroom » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:23 pm

If I was an Issue Editor, I'd approve it for final submission to the Moderators in half a heartbeat.
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Postby Sanctaria » Sat Oct 06, 2012 6:27 pm

TurtleShroom wrote:If I was an Issue Editor, I'd approve it for final submission to the Moderators in half a heartbeat.

...That's not what we do.

People are free to submit their draft issues at any time. We edit the ones chosen.
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Auralia wrote:Your condescending attitude is remarkably annoying.

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Postby Escalan Corps-Star Island » Tue Oct 09, 2012 11:52 am

So, any other advice before I submit this?

EDIT: Submitted.
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