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Barbary Bay
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Postby Barbary Bay » Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:53 am

Ailiailia wrote:I like cats, and generally they like me. It is quite incorrect to say I do not know the satisfaction of a purring cat.

I have a rodent problem. A cat would sort it out within a few weeks ... but then I'd have a hungry cat and no more rodents for it to eat. What then? Should I feed it with what I would not kill to feed myself?

It's a sad kind of relationship: a life of ease for the cat, and easy affection for the human. It is SO EASY for humans to get such affection from animals. You don't need a vet, or daily grooming. You don't need to spend quality time with the animal. You just need to raise the animal in an environment where food and protection comes from humans, and it is your "friend".

That's frankly pathetic, and I'm prejudiced against any human who depends on such friendship. It seems to me that they're needy beyond their ability to care for or provide for the emotional needs of human friends.

Pet owners are emotionally needy. Taking a pet is proof positive of need, and also low standards in fulfilling that need. But I would not dismiss a human just for that ... they may have a lot to give. Their history may have given them no other outlet but to make "friends" with an animal on the unequal terms that such friendship must always be.

But let me make it plain: being friends with an animal is a sign of social failure. It's what people do when they want for friendship and cannot find it (or deserve it) among other people. To be friends with an animal is forgiveable, but it is hardly admirable. It's a human weakness. It's what people do for want of something better.

I would not condemn a person for having pets. I am however prejudiced against people for having pets.

We have so much to give, both materially and emotionally. We can win the love of other people (even those with as much to give). Be kind to animals by all means, that shows generosity of spirit ... and kindness is never bad. Help out the stray animal yes, but make it your "friend" and dependant no. The poor animal does not know what it is getting into. Particularly since most pets were "broken" in their childhood: they were not adult wild animals domesticated in some human/animal contract of mutual benefit. They never had any real choice, they were raised tame.

YOU know that you are making it a slave. Never mind that it struts about like the lord of the manor, you know. You know what it is you do, when you protect an animal from predators, provide it with food, and extend its life with medical treatment. You know what you're doing and you should be ashamed to do it for "friendship". It's not friendship, it's prostitution. It's the kind of friendship you can buy with money.
Frankly, this reads like Mein Kampf. Humans can develop very precious relationships with other animals. It often forms a crucial part of development for children, teaching them responsibility and care. Yes, the bond's foundation is serving the cat's needs, but the same is true of parent-child relationships, and likewise it evolves into mutual affection.

Personally, I got my cat from a rescue centre. If my own or another family hadn't intervened, he would have been put down. I know which scenario I consider cruel.

PS: I don't condone keeping pets indoors, or neutering or the likes of de-clawing. That's interfering with their fundamental nature. Pets are not prisoners.
PPS: Charles lovingly brings home rodents on regular basis, usually still alive. He likes to play with them before he eats them, which usually involves them running under the sofa and me having to launch a tedious mouse-hunt. :palm:
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Postby Esternial » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:43 am

Ailiailia wrote:I like cats, and generally they like me. It is quite incorrect to say I do not know the satisfaction of a purring cat.

I have a rodent problem. A cat would sort it out within a few weeks ... but then I'd have a hungry cat and no more rodents for it to eat. What then? Should I feed it with what I would not kill to feed myself?

It's a sad kind of relationship: a life of ease for the cat, and easy affection for the human. It is SO EASY for humans to get such affection from animals. You don't need a vet, or daily grooming. You don't need to spend quality time with the animal. You just need to raise the animal in an environment where food and protection comes from humans, and it is your "friend".

That's frankly pathetic, and I'm prejudiced against any human who depends on such friendship. It seems to me that they're needy beyond their ability to care for or provide for the emotional needs of human friends.

Pet owners are emotionally needy. Taking a pet is proof positive of need, and also low standards in fulfilling that need. But I would not dismiss a human just for that ... they may have a lot to give. Their history may have given them no other outlet but to make "friends" with an animal on the unequal terms that such friendship must always be.

But let me make it plain: being friends with an animal is a sign of social failure. It's what people do when they want for friendship and cannot find it (or deserve it) among other people. To be friends with an animal is forgiveable, but it is hardly admirable. It's a human weakness. It's what people do for want of something better.

I would not condemn a person for having pets. I am however prejudiced against people for having pets.

We have so much to give, both materially and emotionally. We can win the love of other people (even those with as much to give). Be kind to animals by all means, that shows generosity of spirit ... and kindness is never bad. Help out the stray animal yes, but make it your "friend" and dependant no. The poor animal does not know what it is getting into. Particularly since most pets were "broken" in their childhood: they were not adult wild animals domesticated in some human/animal contract of mutual benefit. They never had any real choice, they were raised tame.

YOU know that you are making it a slave. Never mind that it struts about like the lord of the manor, you know. You know what it is you do, when you protect an animal from predators, provide it with food, and extend its life with medical treatment. You know what you're doing and you should be ashamed to do it for "friendship". It's not friendship, it's prostitution. It's the kind of friendship you can buy with money.

That's nice Dr. Phil, but let's keep this the last rant in this thread. This isn't the place to discuss your issues with pet owners.

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Postby Tsaraine » Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:47 am

Esternial wrote:That's nice Dr. Phil, but let's keep this the last rant in this thread. This isn't the place to discuss your issues with pet owners.


What he said. Moar fuzzy kittehs, less ranting worthy of a YouTube comments box!

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Postby Wamitoria » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:13 am

Thank you everyone for the nominations.
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Postby TaQud » Wed Sep 05, 2012 11:58 am

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Postby Soviet Russia Republic » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:10 pm

So many cute dogs! It was very hard to decide.

That being said I cast my vote for...

Hippostania's dog
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Postby Big Jim P » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:11 pm

Roan Cara wrote:Behold the awesome cuteness of Punkin kitty!


Of course Punkin gets my vote, but she does have some STRONG competition:

Cabra West wrote:While there are currently 5 cats allowing me to share my house with them, I will nominate two, Banshee and Boots.



Now, these two are not related.
Boots (the ginger) arrived in our house last spring, when his owners decided they didn't want him around any more. Ignorant humans, I know.
A few months later, on returning home one evening, I found Boots in the back garden with a teeny-tiny little black and white kitten. He (rightfully) expected us to invite his little friend in for dinner, and since we couldn't find her owner (we suspect she'd been dumped in a nearby park and abandonned) she stayed on after that.
They love each other to bits, as you can clearly see.
When they're not in the garden terrifying the resident insect and slug population, they snuggle on the chair in the picture. At night, they will sleep in the middle of the bed, allowing my husband and me to occupy small strips of matress either side of them.
On the whole, they are very generous overlords.
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Postby San Leggera » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:25 pm

Tsaraine wrote:
Esternial wrote:That's nice Dr. Phil, but let's keep this the last rant in this thread. This isn't the place to discuss your issues with pet owners.


What he said. Moar fuzzy kittehs, less ranting worthy of a YouTube comments box!

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Moar fuzzy kittehs, you say?
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Postby Roan Cara » Wed Sep 05, 2012 12:27 pm

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more Punkin kitty!
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Postby The Grand World Order » Wed Sep 05, 2012 2:01 pm

Ailiailia wrote:
I have a rodent problem. A cat would sort it out within a few weeks ... but then I'd have a hungry cat and no more rodents for it to eat. What then? Should I feed it with what I would not kill to feed myself?

It's a sad kind of relationship: a life of ease for the cat, and easy affection for the human. It is SO EASY for humans to get such affection from animals. You don't need a vet, or daily grooming. You don't need to spend quality time with the animal. You just need to raise the animal in an environment where food and protection comes from humans, and it is your "friend".

That's frankly pathetic, and I'm prejudiced against any human who depends on such friendship. It seems to me that they're needy beyond their ability to care for or provide for the emotional needs of human friends.

Pet owners are emotionally needy. Taking a pet is proof positive of need, and also low standards in fulfilling that need. But I would not dismiss a human just for that ... they may have a lot to give. Their history may have given them no other outlet but to make "friends" with an animal on the unequal terms that such friendship must always be.

But let me make it plain: being friends with an animal is a sign of social failure. It's what people do when they want for friendship and cannot find it (or deserve it) among other people. To be friends with an animal is forgiveable, but it is hardly admirable. It's a human weakness. It's what people do for want of something better.

I would not condemn a person for having pets. I am however prejudiced against people for having pets.

We have so much to give, both materially and emotionally. We can win the love of other people (even those with as much to give). Be kind to animals by all means, that shows generosity of spirit ... and kindness is never bad. Help out the stray animal yes, but make it your "friend" and dependant no. The poor animal does not know what it is getting into. Particularly since most pets were "broken" in their childhood: they were not adult wild animals domesticated in some human/animal contract of mutual benefit. They never had any real choice, they were raised tame.

YOU know that you are making it a slave. Never mind that it struts about like the lord of the manor, you know. You know what it is you do, when you protect an animal from predators, provide it with food, and extend its life with medical treatment. You know what you're doing and you should be ashamed to do it for "friendship". It's not friendship, it's prostitution. It's the kind of friendship you can buy with money.


My cat is a stray that walked in the back door and is let out doors whenever she wants. She still brings me dead crap she finds all the time, and half-eaten birds are omnipresent on my lawn, the worst of which was a giant fatass crow which she left most of for later, so she's certainly still a hunter, and neither I nor my family have forced her into any situation. As for me lacking a social life... for most of the time that we've owned her, I've been a high school football player and thoroughly enjoyed the social life of such, and today I'm constantly out at dubstep shows with my girlfriend while I'm waiting to go off to MCRD San Diego. Then I come home (unless, you know, giggity giggity) and enjoy the company of both my family and my cat. Yes, I'm 18, socially active, and I still have quality time with my family; that is a bit of an outlier, I must admit.



BUT NOW FOR SOMETHING WE ACTUALLY CARE ABOUT...

Buttons is the fluffiest fucking cat I've ever seen. She's actually pretty lean under all that fur.

And Buttons in her favorite spot.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Sep 06, 2012 10:06 am

Updated ALL OF THE KITTEHS.

Seriously now, vote or contriboot

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Postby The Matthew Islands » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:10 pm

Sup, these are photos of my pets overlords. They pretty much are in charge. We got them from a rescue centre as kittens. They are twins called Archie and Emily. They bounce off each other perfectly. Archie is more stocky, but powerfully built with very strong back legs and a powerful swipe and is much stronger but slower (both mentally and physically.) than Emily who is thinner with bandy legs, but is lightning quick and much more clever than Archie. She is also the dominant one.

Emily (nickname, The Bitch):

This is her Christmas outfit.
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This is her trying to ignore me taking photos.
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This is her, when she casually collapsed on the floor, and I tried to nudge her to do something. (If you look carefully just above her tail, you can see where her and her brother have torn apart our landing carpet.)
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Archie (Nicknames, Baldie, Archie-Bald, dopey, special boy, Baldie cat, Bald-head)

This is him sleeping on something in the shed.
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This is him in his X-mas outfit as well.
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These are the only two pictures I have of him on my phone. I wanted to take more betters ones of both cats, but he's suddenly gone hyper, where he thunders up and down the stairs and climbs the bathroom door repeatedly, before usually topping it off by getting stuck on top of the clothes horse, where he eventually just falls down while she is wandering about and is quite simply, just not being cute and co-operative.

*edit* Anybody know what breed my cats are? My parents seem to think Bengal, but I think they might just some European Tabby.

Also, fun fact. My main role in looking after the cars (aside from feeding obv.) is to act as a cushion for Archie, who will actually follow me around meowing at me till I sit down so he can settle.
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Postby Hallistar » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:50 pm

I have a white longhaired Persian cat.. his name is Creampuff:

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Downside: He sheds fur ALOT

I'd also like to nominate him (Creampuff) if possible

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Postby TaQud » Thu Sep 06, 2012 2:51 pm

Hallistar wrote:I have a white longhaired Persian cat.. his name is Creampuff:












Downside: He sheds fur ALOT

I'd also like to nominate him (Creampuff) if possible

you should've name him fluffball
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Postby Esternial » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:06 pm

Updated and willfully ignored the self-vote! YAY!

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Postby Esternial » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:10 pm

The Matthew Islands wrote:*edit* Anybody know what breed my cats are?

Biggest chance is Felix Vulgaris.

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Postby Hallistar » Thu Sep 06, 2012 3:11 pm

Esternial wrote:Updated and willfully ignored the self-vote! YAY!


But is it really a self vote if I'm not the person in the picture? : P
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Postby Tagmatium » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:11 pm

More Bunneh/Rabbit/Trouble

Turns out I've got more photos, but I'd forgotten about them.
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That is one of her favourite spots, which often resulted in her attempting to move the WH40K models behind her.

Which was funny, as they're not mine.

They tended to break.
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Postby Esternial » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:12 pm

Hallistar wrote:
Esternial wrote:Updated and willfully ignored the self-vote! YAY!


But is it really a self vote if I'm not the person in the picture? : P

Yes.

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Postby Wamitoria » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:18 pm

I also nominate Hippostania's dog and Tagmatium's bunneh.
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Postby Umbra Ac Silentium » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:29 pm

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Omgawd this is a great contest.

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Postby TaQud » Thu Sep 06, 2012 4:29 pm

Wamitoria wrote:I also nominate Hippostania's dog and Tagmatium's bunneh.

what about the cat?
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Postby Vareiln » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:01 pm

My overlords have requested that I give them the means to win.

First, there's my catfish. He's at least 6'', and he's quite the predator. Fast, nocturnal, and has a big mouth.
Hiding from the light.
Patrolling for food.

Then there's my cichlid. The most vicious motherfucker of a fish I've ever encountered. Seriously, the only thing that has kept this relatively little guy from outright killing the catfish is the catfish's heft and own aggressiveness. This fish has killed a confirmed 23 others.
In his glory.
Cichlid and catfish.

And then there's my cat, Martini.
Prowling about. (Slightly blurry)
Looking away deliberately to spite me.

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Postby Bralia » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:02 pm

I nominate San Leggera's dog and Tagmatium's Lieutenant Bunneh.

I don't think I'm going to be able to choose anybody's cat . . . too much cuteness all around to choose . . .
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Postby Wamitoria » Thu Sep 06, 2012 5:03 pm

TaQud wrote:
Wamitoria wrote:I also nominate Hippostania's dog and Tagmatium's bunneh.

what about the cat?

I nominated Grand World Order's cat earlier in the thread.
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