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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:05 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:I never said they did. The fights themselves would still be brutal, but the inbetween can be lessened.


As long as the dog gets shitbeat only in the ring, it's okay. Got it.

I don't think it is OK. But I don't see it being a federal issue. Let the states or the counties deal with it.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:06 pm

Hathradic States wrote:I don't think it is OK. But I don't see it being a federal issue. Let the states or the counties deal with it.

This should not be a matter of the states. The issue should be universally condemned and punished harshly, only the degree and carrying out of that punishment should be left to the local governments.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:06 pm

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As long as the dog gets shitbeat only in the ring, it's okay. Got it.

I don't think it is OK. But I don't see it being a federal issue. Let the states or the counties deal with it.


Because states and counties have such outstanding records in upholding rights on their own.
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Postby Transhuman Proteus » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:07 pm

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Unlike people, dogs don't grasp the concept of sports and won't hold back in a fight without seriously rigid training and obedience.

I never said they did. The fights themselves would still be brutal, but the inbetween can be lessened.


Yes, as long as the dog only faces extreme and possibly deadly brutality for 10 to 15 minutes out of a 24 hour day it is ok.

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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:08 pm

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:08 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:I never said they did. The fights themselves would still be brutal, but the inbetween can be lessened.

Why should dogs suffer and die, mauling each other in a pit, for your amusement? The sport is inhumane and wrong.

I didn't say it was a good sport, nor do I personally approve of it. I merely do not think that it is an issue that the federal government needs to be involved in.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:08 pm

The Rich Port wrote:Steve King is an IRL Pokemon Master.


I thought that was Herman Cain.
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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:08 pm

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The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why should dogs suffer and die, mauling each other in a pit, for your amusement? The sport is inhumane and wrong.

I didn't say it was a good sport, nor do I personally approve of it. I merely do not think that it is an issue that the federal government needs to be involved in.

Why?
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:09 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Well, it shouldn't. Not at the federal level.

Great reasoning why here.

Hathradic States wrote:You can regulate it. A large part of the abuse comes from the way the animals are treated inbetween matches. If you regulate the treatment of the athletes between matches, then you've made it more humane.


Yeah, no. The way they are treated in between matches is how you train them. You can't train them if you make their conditions "humane." Again, good to see you know nothing about this subject.
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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:I didn't say it was a good sport, nor do I personally approve of it. I merely do not think that it is an issue that the federal government needs to be involved in.

Why?


Lazy States Rights copout. Keep the Feds out and if the states want Dogageddon, let them!
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Postby The UEG-Space Command » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 pm

Why is it that I thought this was about Steven King at first?
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:10 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
As long as the dog gets shitbeat only in the ring, it's okay. Got it.

I don't think it is OK. But I don't see it being a federal issue. Let the states or the counties deal with it.


This has worked so great throughout history.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:11 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:I don't think it is OK. But I don't see it being a federal issue. Let the states or the counties deal with it.


Because states and counties have such outstanding records in upholding rights on their own.

Considering all but one of the states banned it before the federal ban came into affect (if I remember right. I may be thinking of cockfighting), I think they did good on this issue.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:11 pm

The UEG-Space Command wrote:Why is it that I thought this was about Steven King at first?


You're thinking of Stephen King. And he's In Maine.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:12 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:I didn't say it was a good sport, nor do I personally approve of it. I merely do not think that it is an issue that the federal government needs to be involved in.

Why?

Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.

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Postby The Nuclear Fist » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:13 pm

Hathradic States wrote:Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.

Torture is torture, regardless. Animals being forced to maul each other to death is a matter that must be dealt with harshly and at the highest levels.
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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:13 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why?

Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.


This isn't an argument.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:17 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.

Torture is torture, regardless. Animals being forced to maul each other to death is a matter that must be dealt with harshly and at the highest levels.

They are animals. I'd rather see dogs fighting to the death than men.

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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:18 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.


This isn't an argument.

Yes it is. A poorly worded one, but an arguement nonetheless.

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Postby Mavorpen » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:19 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Torture is torture, regardless. Animals being forced to maul each other to death is a matter that must be dealt with harshly and at the highest levels.

They are animals. I'd rather see dogs fighting to the death than men.


Humans are animals.

Hathradic States wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
This isn't an argument.

Yes it is. A poorly worded one, but an arguement nonetheless.

No, it's not an argument. It would be like me saying, "They're African Americans, for Christ's sake." It's not an argument.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:20 pm

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Hathradic States wrote:Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.


This isn't an argument.


I don't know what would be worse: a non-argument, or a shitty argument.

Hathradic States wrote:
The Nuclear Fist wrote:Torture is torture, regardless. Animals being forced to maul each other to death is a matter that must be dealt with harshly and at the highest levels.

They are animals. I'd rather see dogs fighting to the death than men.


Need we really bring up boxing, MMA, etc., and then have you say "that's not to the death" and then have us say "it might as well be" and that "that's going to happen soon, too, people are so fight-addicted"?
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Postby Unidox » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:21 pm

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The Nuclear Fist wrote:Why?

Because there is no good reason why it should be a federal issue. It's dogs, for Christ's sake.

The illegal betting is why the Fed usually get involved. Then there is the type of clientele that are usually in attendance. Then there is the fact that a person who is usually willing to put animals through such trauma tends to rank humans on the same scale.
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Postby Hathradic States » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:22 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Hathradic States wrote:They are animals. I'd rather see dogs fighting to the death than men.


Humans are animals.

We also are self-aware. Which puts us a step over our canine friends.

Hathradic States wrote:Yes it is. A poorly worded one, but an arguement nonetheless.

No, it's not an argument. It would be like me saying, "They're African Americans, for Christ's sake." It's not an argument.

If you are going to mock bigots, at least do it right. >.>

The difference between blacks and dogs is that dogs are actually lesser beings.

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Postby Gauthier » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:23 pm

Hathradic States wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:
Humans are animals.

We also are self-aware. Which puts us a step over our canine friends.

No, it's not an argument. It would be like me saying, "They're African Americans, for Christ's sake." It's not an argument.

If you are going to mock bigots, at least do it right. >.>

The difference between blacks and dogs is that dogs are actually lesser beings.


A couple of centuries ago blacks were considered "lesser beings" too.
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Postby The Rich Port » Tue Jul 31, 2012 11:23 pm

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The Rich Port wrote:Steve King is an IRL Pokemon Master.


I thought that was Herman Cain.


No, he's more like Professor Oak, Giovanni, and that ambiguously gay douchebag antagonist from Pokemon 2000 put together.

He is also much more offensive to black people, and that's saying a lot, because Professor Oak has some pretty strong opinions about what he calls "slit-eyed, womanizing Jinx-hybrids".
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