Spritalia wrote:Speaking of space flight, we should really spend less time and money on the greenhouse effect and more on missions into the black void and the moon.
And die before we get anything useful accomplished? No thanks.
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by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:25 pm
Spritalia wrote:Speaking of space flight, we should really spend less time and money on the greenhouse effect and more on missions into the black void and the moon.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:27 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:27 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:31 pm
Libertas Liber wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:Two questions:
Why on earth do you want Paul? Why do you think Romney is going to win?
The current polls appear neck and neck. Though, it's uncertain who will win imo. Spritalia is most likely making an assumption as it all depends on whose theory you listen to.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:32 pm
Des-Bal wrote:The Nuclear Fist wrote:How many times do I have to link this?
You should probably label those, I've seen that several times and I have no real interest in sifting through each link to find which one is relevant.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:33 pm
Spritalia wrote:Do I need to make a long, drawn out post about the horrors of the Fed. Bank? Or do you all have some grasp that they are not /good/ but /bad/?
/Lazy-ass Kid
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:34 pm
Minnysota wrote:
I'm thinking of counting how many times that has been linked in this thread. Anyone want to place bets before I actually do it?
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:39 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by North California » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:40 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:40 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:41 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:43 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:46 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:46 pm
Farnhamia wrote:Wikkiwallana wrote:No. That was Bush.
Bush again.
I find it interesting that "Christians" would object to caring for the sick.
I wish we would.
Christians object to having to pay for the birth control pills of snooty college coeds, remember?
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:48 pm
Libertas Liber wrote:Death Metal wrote:
I agree with Wikki's dissagreement. In fact, better the federal bank control our currency than any private
The Fed is "owned" by private banks...
http://www.factcheck.org/2008/03/federal-reserve-bank-ownership/
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 5:50 pm
Des-Bal wrote:Unified Provinces wrote:I think this article should help: http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Federal_Reserve
Can't tell if serious.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:03 pm
Euronion wrote:Romney will win, I've done the electoral calculations, run over 30 possible scenarios based on the most recent poll data.
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:08 pm
You're indulging in the same error that many American foreign policy "experts" have fallen into ever since 1979: Believing that there is a large, pro-American "centrist" movement in Iran, when in truth there is not the slightest proof that such a thing exists.
Iran is a deeply nationalist country, and religious sentiment runs strong in its rural hinterland; it is in the countryside where the current regime enjoys its greatest strength. In the cities - and especially in Tehran - there are a growing number of people who have become disaffected, largely as a consequence of the cronyism and corruption that has beset the current regime; yet even this demographic is deeply suspicious of the United States, which has a long history of interfering in Iranian politics to the detriment of Iran and its interests. Worse, a lot of these people are political leftists; progressive forces probably represent the strongest and best organized opposition to the political establishment, even though they are in fact still a minority overall.
So even if a strong resistance to the regime were to emerge, it would still be fundamentally anti-American, due to its largely leftist bent.--Alien Space Bats
In all seriousness, the Islamic Republic has more legitimacy in the eyes of Iranians than you imagine. -- alein space bat
most Iranians support their system of government, and would be willing to make sacrifices for it - indeed, would even be willing to die to defend it - were it attacked.--alein space bat
First, America doesn't have a long history of interference in Syrian internal affairs to live down as it does in Iran; we didn't prop up the regime that preceded the current one in Syria, turning a blind eye while the secret police tortured, mutilated, and murdered dissidents by the tens of thousands, the way we did in Iran. Nor do we have a history of fomenting war against Syria by its neighbors, thereby plunging them into a conflict lasting nearly a decade, with the resulting loss of hundreds of thousands more lives, the way we urged Iraq to invade Iran. --alien space bat
We didn't shoot down Syrian airliners by accident, or repeatedly engage the Syrian navy in hostilities, as we did with Iran; we haven't been ready to go to war with Syria for virtually every minute of the last 30 years at the slightest provocation, the way we did with Iran between 1979-2009.-- alien space bat
Now, beyond that there are good reasons for being careful in Syria. I find it comical that the very same conservatives who criticize Obama for standing by and letting Mubarak get toppled in Egypt, and who fret and tear their hair out over the prospect of seeing the Muslim Brotherhood take over there in the wake of last year's "Jasmine Revolution" - and the very same people who say that in toppling Qaddafi, we handed Libya to Islamic fundamentalists - are so eager to see us arm the Syrian resistance and propel them to power. The odds of a fundamentalist takeover in Syria are many times greater than they were in Libya (or might be going forward in Egypt); I am prompted to recall the old adage about fools running in where angels fear to tread.
Then, too, we need to walk carefully around Syria's relationship with Russia, especially in light of Turkey's membership in NATO. It would not be wise for us (or for Russia) to allow war to break out between Turkey and Syria, given that such a conflict could quickly escalate into a head-on fight between Washington and Moscow.
So you show an inability to appreciate the problems and possibilities inherent in not just one nation's unrest, but two; I have to say I'm impressed, because that sort of misperception takes more that the usual effort to achieve.-- alien space bat
That's a rather bald statement. My response is simple: Why wouldn't we? The Gulf is crucial to our interests; our committment to defending the region has been visible for decades. Why assume that committment would fall short of offering a nuclear umbrella, especially when the alternative would be proliferation, something we don't want?--alien space bat
But none of the potential proliferators named presents any kind of serious threat in that direction, especially if the U.S. (with or without the support of the rest of the U.N. Security Council) chooses to act. --alein space bat
India and Pakistan never signed the Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT); that sets them apart from both Iran and the various prospective Middle Eastern proliferators people frequently mention--alien space bat
Pakistan refused to sign when India did, and the rest is history.-alien space bat
Yet look at what happened when Pakistan moved to develop nuclear weapons in response to India's nuclear armament program: Pakistan got hammered with cuts in military and economic aid by the U.S., cuts that stung Pakistan rather badly. The example of Pakistan's problems in acquiring nuclear weapons stands as a cautionary tale for any Middle Eastern nation that might want to follow in their footsteps; pressure from hostile neighboring nuclear powers aside, Turkey, Egypt, and Syria all have a lot to lose in the way of external aid and support if they were to decide to follow in Pakistan's footsteps (and this doesn't even begin to address the cost to Turkey of pissing off either NATO or the European Community; Turkey simply does not want to go there).--alien space bat
No, I don't see the Indo-Pakistani dynamic being played out in the Middle East; the situations are radically different, as are the possible costs and rewards.---alien space bat
Proliferation requires very specific circumstances. I just don't see those circumstances emerging in the Middle East; I think people who do are being alarmist.-- alien space bat
Oh, please. Our efforts in Iraq and Afghanistan were never sustainable. The invasion of Iraq itself was foolish,--alien space bat
the best possible outcome would be for us to negotiate a settlement in which the Taliban agree to lay down their arms and return to the Afghan political matrix as regular players so that we can wash our hands of the place and move on.--alien space bat
LOL! Did you actually read your own article? It says that our diminishing popularity stems from the fact that we'ev continued to hunt down al-Qaeda while failing to pressure Israel into concessions vis-à-vis Palestine. So you want me to believe that Mitt Romney - who's even more belligerent than Obama when it comes to Islamic fundamentalists and who's even more strongly committed to Israel - is going to be more popular with Arabs?-- alien space bat
by Farnhamia » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:08 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:32 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by Mavorpen » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:32 pm
by Wikkiwallana » Fri Jul 27, 2012 6:34 pm
Dumb Ideologies wrote:Halt!
Just because these people are stupid, wrong and highly dangerous does not mean you have the right to make them feel sad.
Avenio wrote:Just so you know, the use of the term 'sheep' 'sheeple' or any other herd animal-based terminology in conjunction with an exhortation to 'think outside the box' or stop going along with groupthink generally indicates that the speaker is actually more closed-minded on the subject than the people that he/she is addressing. At least, in my experience at least.
by AuSable River » Fri Jul 27, 2012 8:27 pm
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