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United Calanworie
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Postby United Calanworie » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:09 pm

Cyptopir wrote:
Refuge Isle wrote:I'd like to ask that we get back to and remain on the topic of GenSec nominations. Nothing else is relevant to this thread.

We don't have much of a choice since you shut down all the threads where we could talk about this.

I don't want to put the bad cop hat on, but that doesn't change the rules on threadjacking.
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Postby The Overmind » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:10 pm

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Refuge Isle wrote:I'd like to ask that we get back to and remain on the topic of GenSec nominations. Nothing else is relevant to this thread.

We don't have much of a choice since you shut down all the threads where we could talk about this.


I'm pretty confident they'd do the same here if they weren't trying to make a point of replacing Wally.
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Postby Cyptopir » Mon Mar 18, 2024 9:22 pm

United Calanworie wrote:
Cyptopir wrote:We don't have much of a choice since you shut down all the threads where we could talk about this.

I don't want to put the bad cop hat on, but that doesn't change the rules on threadjacking.

I know, I was just pointing out how it was a little bit unfair.

In any case, I've already made my nominations, so I'll be going now.
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Postby Skwar » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:39 pm

I nominate Wallenburg, as it is evident that there never was any legitimate basis for removing them.

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Vonum
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Postby Vonum » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:44 pm

Omphalos wrote:So how long until Reploid locks this thread because M/A doesn't like it and thinks we need to be lectured like school children

One week.

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Postby Second Sovereignty » Mon Mar 18, 2024 10:46 pm

Please for the love of god keep on topic people, don't be ridiculous.

Anyway, to be clear, I accept any nominations, though I maintain the position is rightly Wallenburg's.
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Postby Idinist Imauggland » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:18 am

I reconfirm my nomination of Wallenburg after Moderation’s post.
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Postby Outer Sparta » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:22 am

Wallenburg once again. Still unclear what happened behind the scenes as it wasn't made totally transparent.
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Postby Ankuran » Tue Mar 19, 2024 1:17 am

Having seen M/A's response, I feel I have no choice but to nominate Wallenburg.
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Postby Attempted Socialism » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:06 am

With Moderation's response in mind, and IA's gauntlet being thrown, I think it is even clearer that the only person to take up the seat is Wallenburg. I repeat my nomination of Wallenburg.


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Postby Nationalist Northumbria » Tue Mar 19, 2024 5:32 am

I nominate Wallenburg.
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Postby Osmauri » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:23 am

Wallenburg is still the nominee for me and you.
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Postby HISPIDA » Tue Mar 19, 2024 6:31 am

Cyptopir wrote:
Refuge Isle wrote:I'd like to ask that we get back to and remain on the topic of GenSec nominations. Nothing else is relevant to this thread.

We don't have much of a choice since you shut down all the threads where we could talk about this.

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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:11 am

Moderation has made it not transparent because if it was transparent then their whole argument would fall apart.

I nominate Wallenburg.
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Postby Bisofeyr » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:49 am

I echo the discontentment with the way that mods have dealt with this situation, particularly with shutting down what seems to be our only avenue to publicly discuss it, and I do hope that further information may be released at a future date. Until that further information is released, I would nominate Wallenburg alongside the others in this thread: not out of protest, but out of a genuine evaluation of those who (1) would do an excellent job at analyzing rules and being a community leader, (2) is active enough to consistently be active in discussions had, and (3) is still willing to accept the role following the kerfuffle that we've witnessed here.

I don't want to dwell too much on the actual circumstances in this thread, as M/A has made it abundantly clear that they do not wish for that conversation to continue on in this thread too significantly, but I certainly think that (3) is the most limiting factor in making this choice: earlier in this thread I nominated Simone Republic, who I still think would fulfill criteria (1) and (2), and I would maintain my nomination of them if they were willing to accept a selection. I will use this post to nominate Tinfect, who I believe would fulfill all three criteria.

That being said, options are sparse. While there are those beyond these three I mention that would be a good GenSec, there are few that would accept the job. I have heard that it is no longer an option for GenSec to fall to five members, as mods have instituted a 6-person minimum, but I would hope that the shortage of choices would help showcase the arbitrariness of the number six: for a not-insignificant amount of time, we had a five-person GenSec team, which proved sufficient for the job showcased. More than any of the three people I've mentioned here, I hope the outcome is a reversal of this newly-imposed minimum. Perhaps this thread can remain open for the foreseeable future, until such a time that a suitable candidate that GenSec feels is appropriate arises, likely after the dust has settled. I see no reason that the current team would do the job sufficiently, and would much prefer to see a smaller team of five people than a team of six with a watered-down ability to accomplish the job (though again, any of the three people I've mentioned are people that I feel would do a good job; this is more of a statement for longer-term viability, and should also apply here if GenSec or M/A deems these three unfit at this time for any reason).

I'm obviously not the most active in the game, but I spend a lot of time reading and lurking and trying to absorb information relevant to stuff like this, so I hope that this post makes sense and addresses the issues of appointing someone good for the job at this time. I have a feeling that I am late enough to the bandwagon as to be properly ignored, but I hope this helps in some way, even if I know that the odds of me changing anyone's minds are slim to none.
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Postby Kenmoria » Tue Mar 19, 2024 9:23 am

Vonum wrote:
Omphalos wrote:So how long until Reploid locks this thread because M/A doesn't like it and thinks we need to be lectured like school children

One week.

Are self-nominations allowed?

Nominations are done by somebody other than the nominated. With that said, GenSec does consider anyone nominated in previous threads who is still active, and GenSec can occasionally consider others who might not have been nominated.
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Postby Nepleslia » Tue Mar 19, 2024 12:23 pm

I wasn’t going to post here, as I’m not involved in the WA - but when the mods went full 1984 and silenced any and all dissent - while giving a BS (in my opinion) reason for doing - by locking the three (3) threads in Moderation, yeah, no. I nominate Wallenburg.

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Postby Castille de Italia » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:44 pm

I would like to reiterate my support for Wallenburg, and ask to have myself removed from the list of those nominated.
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Postby Stalin as a DEAT » Tue Mar 19, 2024 2:47 pm

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Postby Vonum » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:09 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Vonum wrote:One week.

Are self-nominations allowed?

Nominations are done by somebody other than the nominated. With that said, GenSec does consider anyone nominated in previous threads who is still active, and GenSec can occasionally consider others who might not have been nominated.


Cheers :D

Wallenburg it is then

EDIT: I will still accept any nominations from others
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Benaveni ca lo Apilla Jhestar'r Dia, idiotes! Gora loca pan-Vonia ci heurra!
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Exeta: 201ºH, Partia Cumula
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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 3:10 pm

Vonum wrote:
Kenmoria wrote:Nominations are done by somebody other than the nominated. With that said, GenSec does consider anyone nominated in previous threads who is still active, and GenSec can occasionally consider others who might not have been nominated.


Cheers :D

Wallenburg it is then

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Postby Chipoli » Tue Mar 19, 2024 4:19 pm

While I disagree with the removal of Wallenberg, it has become clear that the moderation team will not allow him to return to a position on the GenSec, and we should begin to look into alternatives.

That said, I think Attempted Socialism and Simone Republic are two qualified and experienced candidates suitable for the role. I nominate them both.
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Postby Unibot III » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:07 pm

Yelda wrote:
Wallenburg wrote:Of the names you've given, I think I've only ever seen Gruen and myself ever participate in legality discussions with any degree of rigor. It's great to be a community touchstone and to have a long history in the WA, and even to be a prolific author. But none of these actually indicate suitability for this job. GenSec is a role for experts in procedure and adjudication, as far as that can be said for a browser game.

You're right. I nominate Unibot III in addition to the other six. He's an expert in procedure and adjudication. That's a well-rounded group of nominees now, wouldn't you agree?


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Postby Fachumonn » Tue Mar 19, 2024 7:12 pm

Unibot III wrote:
Yelda wrote:You're right. I nominate Unibot III in addition to the other six. He's an expert in procedure and adjudication. That's a well-rounded group of nominees now, wouldn't you agree?


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Left-wing Utopia

Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Tue Mar 19, 2024 8:13 pm

Bananaistan wrote:
Fachumonn wrote:Wallenburg, Sanctaria, or Hulldom (if they accept of course)

Sierra Lyricalia, Bananaistan, or Bears Armed would also be fine re-additions to the team.


Thanks for the nomination. I do not wish to be considered at this time. Firstly, I would not be willing to work under what appears to be the current constraints imposed upon GenSec for disagreement with the administrators. Secondly, I genuinely hope that Wally will be reinstated. Thirdly, my reasons for retirement from November are still valid: I could not guarantee sufficient interest and activity for the foreseeable future. Perhaps that might change and at some future point I might wish to be considered again but not right now.


Not to piggyback too hard on others' writing, but this is all true for me as well. Thanks for tossing my name in the ring tho.
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