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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:54 am

Such a guide doesn't exist

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Postby Graintfjall » Sun Aug 30, 2020 10:59 am

Urasimu wa Kati wrote:I saw that existing GA resolutions are categorized and searchable, which is very useful.

Beyond that, are there any sort of high-level summaries out there of the most prominent mandates that the WA puts upon nations? A sort of, "hey, if you're going to join the WA, here's what you should know your nation is agreeing to - here's what will now be automatically outlawed, here's what will be legalized, etc."?

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Postby Urasimu wa Kati » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:07 am

Thank you both for the answers.

If/once I've built up a little credibility, I might attempt to make something like that. Could be useful for discouraging redundancy, may mark some resolutions as targets for repeal, and could be useful for people newly active with the GA.

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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:16 am

That's very difficult; it requires you to do a lot of interpretations that people disagree on. Eg does CoCR itself mandate the legalisation of same-sex marriages?

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Postby Urasimu wa Kati » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:22 am

Imperium Anglorum wrote:That's very difficult; it requires you to do a lot of interpretations that people disagree on. Eg does CoCR itself mandate the legalisation of same-sex marriages?


Fair point. If I were ever to attempt such a thing, I don't think I would include any implicit mandates - I would only use what is explicitly stated in resolutions.

I'd rather miss possible mandates than include disputed ones. So in the case of the Charter, I wouldn't include mandatory legalization of same-sex marriages.

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Postby Graintfjall » Sun Aug 30, 2020 11:58 am

Far too complex and not worth the effort that would be involved putting it together.

What you could do is go through the resolutions and think about how your nation would comply with them. For example, whether or not you agree with their approach, Auralia or Knoot.

But trying to write a general one for everyone probably won't work.

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Postby Graintfjall » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:05 am

I'm guessing the answer is "no", but does anyone track failed/removed proposals? I was wondering when we would reach 1000 WA votes. We have a little over 500 passed resolutions -1 (Resolution #1 wasn't a WA vote). Proposals that fail or are discarded don't get numbered. The NSwiki timeline used to track them but is there a current log of them beyond hand-counting archived threads?

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Postby Kenmoria » Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:13 am

Graintfjall wrote:I'm guessing the answer is "no", but does anyone track failed/removed proposals? I was wondering when we would reach 1000 WA votes. We have a little over 500 passed resolutions -1 (Resolution #1 wasn't a WA vote). Proposals that fail or are discarded don't get numbered. The NSwiki timeline used to track them but is there a current log of them beyond hand-counting archived threads?

I think the answer is indeed ‘no’. The SC has a failed proposal thread, but the GA never did, leaving someone just with counting manually the archived thread.
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Postby Sierra Lyricalia » Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:49 pm

Kenmoria wrote:
Graintfjall wrote:I'm guessing the answer is "no", but does anyone track failed/removed proposals? I was wondering when we would reach 1000 WA votes. We have a little over 500 passed resolutions -1 (Resolution #1 wasn't a WA vote). Proposals that fail or are discarded don't get numbered. The NSwiki timeline used to track them but is there a current log of them beyond hand-counting archived threads?

I think the answer is indeed ‘no’. The SC has a failed proposal thread, but the GA never did, leaving someone just with counting manually the archived thread.


IA keeps a database of this, actually. There are records of proposal names going back to 2014, but not all entries appear to be populated with actual vote data.
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Postby Graintfjall » Mon Aug 31, 2020 3:00 pm

Ew, SC votes.

Thanks, that is helpful. I guess manually splitting out the SC votes wouldn't be too hard, and then pre-2014 ... hmm, that's 6 years, but better than having to do all 12.

edit: does NewTexas still archive all votes? I imagine the Texas forum went bye-bye with invision/zeta, but he was always pretty comprehensive?
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Postby Omigodtheykilledkenny » Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:34 pm

He probably is still collecting data on votes; the last time I checked on Texas' stat engine, however, it didn't appear to have been updated in a while.

The Texas forum is still there; it was transferred to Tapatalk along with the rest of the active zeta boards.
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Postby Imperium Anglorum » Mon Aug 31, 2020 9:05 pm

Sierra Lyricalia wrote:IA keeps a database of this, actually. There are records of proposal names going back to 2014, but not all entries appear to be populated with actual vote data.

I saw the link. Some of the older entries have bad error handling code (eg when a cross-reference to a WA opinion can't be found for lack of information; analogous to a null pointer). Just corrected it. Nb know also that you can click on the years and get a list of resolutions in that year.
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